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dukeofbaja

dukeofbaja

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undertheice said:
but the chicken is far more important than the fetus and should be saved from the savagery of mankind. for some reason it's perfectly all right to rip a human being from the womb in little bitty pieces, but we shouldn't be eating them poor little critters with feathers. kick and scream about a chicken in a cage, but just smile and nod your head at the thought of a human life ended for the sake of convenience. am i missing something here?
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You are missing A LOT my friend.

You are missing a SHITLOAD of folks who support a woman's right to privacy yet have no problem killing animals for food, like myself.

But then again, that seems to be common with you. ou seem to rely on sweeping and false generalizations to support your long-winded rants.
 
Johnnyorganic

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dukeofbaja said:
You are missing A LOT my friend.

You are missing a SHITLOAD of folks who support a woman's right to privacy yet have no problem killing animals for food, like myself.

But then again, that seems to be common with you. ou seem to rely on sweeping and false generalizations to support your long-winded rants.
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Could you kill, skin, clean, butcher, cook, and eat your cat?

If the answer is anything but a resounding and unequivocal 'yes', it appears you do have a problem with killing animals for food.
 
tinyTURTLE

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Johnnyorganic said:
Could you kill, skin, clean, butcher, cook, and eat your cat?

If the answer is anything but a resounding and unequivocal 'yes', it appears you do have a problem with killing animals for food.
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chickens are stupid and delicious. i've read that cannibals say people taste like pork.
but i bet an american housecat would be just as nasty as hell.
i have 2 cats. i would eat the fat one first, the other cat is so skinny she might best be used to try to bait something bigger.
as for my dog, if he helped hunt or track, i might not eat him.
dogs are more useful than cats. good smell and hearing, big teeth, warm bodies and a natural compulsion to learn to do what we tell them to do. on the other hand they eat a lot.
 
undertheice

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dukeofbaja said:
You are missing a SHITLOAD of folks who support a woman's right to privacy yet have no problem killing animals for food, like myself.
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well then, only part of my statement concerns you. now doesn't it?* i know that roe v. wade is like the holy grail to you folks, but i've never been able to fathom what it is that killing someone has to do with privacy. i've studied on it and studied on it and i guess i'm just too dense to make the connection. maybe i'm a little old-fashioned, but i always figured that everyone knew what causes pregnancy and how best to avoid it. of the million or so abortions performed in this country each year, the overwhelming majority are done simply because the people involved just couldn't be bothered to make sure the pregnancy didn't happen in the first place. by relieving these folks of the responsibility they have taken on, we are lessening the value of all human life and cheapening the ethical standards of our society. i really couldn't care less because i don't see humanity as anything all that special these days, but it does seem rather contradictory to the moral high ground the progressive movement keeps insisting they stand on.







* - "ya little shit" is unspoken but implied.
 
Murfy

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for some-
for others what you think should be entitlement for isolation

i cannot support censorship among rational mature adults in any form
EDIT:but on the other hand when we're all growin weed we're buddies, maybe we should leave such highly sensitive issues as abortion for another forum-
it's too close to the edge when you can argue it all day but a photo of it is so disgusting it results in disciplinary action-
too taboo

just my 2 cents-murfy
 
Johnnyorganic

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tinyTURTLE said:
abortion isn't a moral issue, it's a medical issue.
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Abortion is a medical issue.

But is also an ethical issue.

When you consider the lack of say the sperm donor has in even being notified that his progeny may be aborted, some claim it is also an equality issue. On the other hand, nobody forced the man to forfeit his wigglers to a woman who may or may not value his contribution to a new life.

And unfortunately for far too many women it is also a birth control issue.

But for me, ultimately it is a privacy issue. Nothing is more private than what goes on inside one's own body. Which means that even though I am personally against abortion, I accept it.
 
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NoDrama

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undertheice said:
well then, only part of my statement concerns you. now doesn't it?* i know that roe v. wade is like the holy grail to you folks, but i've never been able to fathom what it is that killing someone has to do with privacy. i've studied on it and studied on it and i guess i'm just too dense to make the connection. maybe i'm a little old-fashioned, but i always figured that everyone knew what causes pregnancy and how best to avoid it. of the million or so abortions performed in this country each year, the overwhelming majority are done simply because the people involved just couldn't be bothered to make sure the pregnancy didn't happen in the first place. by relieving these folks of the responsibility they have taken on, we are lessening the value of all human life and cheapening the ethical standards of our society. i really couldn't care less because i don't see humanity as anything all that special these days, but it does seem rather contradictory to the moral high ground the progressive movement keeps insisting they stand on.







* - "ya little shit" is unspoken but implied.
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I think getting us all used to aborted babies was part of the plan all along. Once we got used to vacuuming babies piece by piece out of a womans body it wouldn't be such a far leap for the police state to start brutalizing its citizens while everyone else just looked the other way. You can see the trend.
 
abe23

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Yeah, I do hope ViRedd comes back soon....he's a hoot. I don't get it though. Is the ban on gory imagery in general or just fetuses?

Will posting iraq collateral damage gore get me banned?

He did make his point, but I'm not really sure that was very convincing. By the way.....do the anti-abortion people think women like to have abortions or something? I've only ever known that to be a very last resort and probably one of the most difficult decision you'll ever have to make. We all agree that there should be as few abortions as possible. Those of us who are 'pro-choice' just happen to think the best way to achieve that isn't criminalization and back-alleys. You would expect cannabis smokers of all people to understand that one...
 
CrackerJax

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So you say.... pure anecdotal thinking.

I happen to be pro abortion however... I just think the line I used is so applicable.... and true of course. I always respect the truth.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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so you don't think abortion is a form of birth control??

I am pro abortion and even I recognize that fact.

It's a womans body.... she can do what she wants. I just don't want to foot her bill to do it....the same way i don't want to foot the bill for her having the baby either.

But abortion is used as birth control.
 
abe23

abe23

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Dumbest, most painful and agonizing method of birth control ever!!


You must not know a lot of women if you say shit like that, CJ....
 
doc111

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tinyTURTLE said:
abortion isn't a moral issue, it's a medical issue.
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I am personally against abortion but I am still pro-choice. I think it's reprehensible that people use it as a means of birth control. I have to strongly disagree with your statement. I was in the medical field for close to 20 years. The only time abortion is a medical issue is when it is necessary to save the life of the mother. Period! Not only are you not a very nice person but it appears you are extremely ignorant. I'll keep this in mind when posting (I don't want to use any big words you may not understand:dunce:).
 
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