Fans for stem strength

[JN811]

Maybe you should JN811, we might get banned, or written up for contacting FDD2BLK, for whatever reason.

ahahhaahahaha were u their when he banned me?

that was a cfl grow. 2 ounces from one plant using cfls.

and like i said I wasnt knocking ur grow.. but saying that MADE MY POINT... LIGHT affects stem growth WAY WAY WAY more that 1000 fans...

 

[JN811]

Gee what a surprise you are using 400 hps...i got 2 ounces off of one plant using about 200 watts of cfl.

no buddy, im using 1200 watts of HID and 4 fans once again... and with 1 400 watt I yielded close to 9 oz last grow from 3 plants.. look at my pics..

 

[JN811]

dude, ur immature i wasnt trying to turn this into a dick messuring contest but trust me ill win...

 

[CLOSETGROWTH]

Believe what you want JN811.

Wind does indeed improve the density of the stem/branches of ANY plant in the universe.

How ridiculous.. Im outta here.

 

[JN811]

hahahahahah^^^ you believe what u want... and ill do the same.. and so will oxford

 

[Anjinsan]

dude, ur immature i wasnt trying to turn this into a dick messuring contest but trust me ill win...

whp is the lol LMFAO, lolz, OMG, laughing smiley king in this thread? Not me.

and for the record...I'm hung like a water buffalo.

 

[Promitius]

Gee what a surprise you are using 400 hps...i got 2 ounces off of one plant using about 200 watts of cfl.

CFL's are cool but i'm pretty happy with my setup. i've got the temperature at 76-82 and humidity below 55% with a 600w HPS running on superlumens mode (600w +10% output)

While I understand the budget end of this the ventilation and cooling benefits of my air cooled hood are helping greatly and you shouldn't be so arrogant about your methods because there is no correct method. be more positive.

Try getting two ounces off of 15 plants each with 200watts of CFL.

k?

 

[Promitius]

dude, ur immature i wasnt trying to turn this into a dick messuring contest but trust me ill win...

no "ur" immature

 

[JN811]

im going into my forest see ya jokers!!! this is my 2nd grow but obviously I dunno what im talking bout... 2 ozs

 

[Anjinsan]

CFL's are cool but i'm pretty happy with my setup. i've got the temperature at 76-82 and humidity below 55% with a 600w HPS running on superlumens mode (600w +10% output)

While I understand the budget end of this the ventilation and cooling benefits of my air cooled hood are helping greatly and you shouldn't be so arrogant about your methods because there is no correct method. be more positive.

Try getting two ounces off of 15 plants each with 200watts of CFL.

k?

arrogant? Are you fucking kidding me? I didn't post my grow...he did. At day 37 i believe at that. I didn't bust out out the loz, LMFAO, , etc. He did.

I also didn't claim that thigmomorphogenesis was an old wives tale and then proceed to mock anyone who supported it.

 

[Anjinsan]

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im going into my forest see ya jokers!!! this is my 2nd grow but obviously I dunno what im talking bout... 2 ozs

arrogant...me?

 

[JN811]

that pic i have is like 20 days flowering if that.. im not arrogant.. just proud of my beautiful lovely ladies.. and you did so post a pic ... liar!!!

 

[Anjinsan]

that pic i have is like 20 days flowering if that.. im not arrogant.. just proud of my beautiful lovely ladies.. and you did so post a pic ... liar!!!

After you posted my day 37 pics w/o asking me. What if I didn't want to bring up those pics? What if I wanted to have evidence of my grows fade off into the sunset and die? You kinda screwed me there didn't you?

Common courtesy...go buy some.

 

[JN811]

hahahahah.. go re read this thread.. I started off so polite until you got rude with me.. then i posted ur pic to show that ur stems werent even strong.. I even complimented it.. then you brought it to the next level.. so you go buy some and mail me it when ur done

 

[jdizzle22]

I would find it hard to believe that wind doesn't have an effect on stem strength. But I do wonder if for indoor growers if it would be better in the end to not have wind so the plant can focus on growth and not stem strength (using props/sticks and tieing if necessary).

Personally I have a couple $15 clip on fans in my grow tent that are in opposite corners of the tent blowing straight across to the other side (not diagonally). I do this to help circulate air, keep them cooler (especially tops near glass), build stem strength (if its true I guess), and hopefully to help combat any possible moisture problems. Even if wind has no effect on stem strength (which sounds like bullshit to me), I think there are plenty of other good reasons to use them and that the pros definitely outweigh the cons.

 

[NirvAnamation]

Wow. 55 replies...wasn't expecting that.

I don't care if the fan helps the stem or not, its worth a shot to do it anyway

At what point should I start the fan?

 

[ForTwenty]

Ok to add some actual academical background comments.....

The article extract that was posted is a little misleading in how it reads but you also have to read it with the correct frame of mind! It does clearly state that no evidence of wind having an effect could be shown however mechanical stimulus (in this case mechanical flexing) did have an effect and it always does have an effect to some degree or other. The article also clearly divides "wind" into two distinct categories or properties, that of the mechanical flexing and of the airflow actually on the plant material. When it later refers to the airflow having a negative effect on the plant don't confuse this as meaning wind in general, it merely means the physical action of airflow over the plant! In these experiments the plant would have been tied so as to not allow the air to cause a mechanical flex.

I can't be arsed to look back through the list of posts but whoever it was that said wind has no effect couldn't be more wrong, full stop. Thigmomorphogenesis is a definite real non-imaginary reaction to stimulus, wind being a good example of suitable stimulus.

However, whether the effects of a fan are beneficial or not.... I'm not experienced enough growing MJ to know!

And it's real late so sorry if that sounds garbled LOL

 

[fdd2blk]

Maybe you should JN811, we might get banned, or written up for contacting FDD2BLK, for whatever reason.

excuse me.

 

[JN811]

Ok to add some actual academical background comments.....

The article extract that was posted is a little misleading in how it reads but you also have to read it with the correct frame of mind! It does clearly state that no evidence of wind having an effect could be shown however mechanical stimulus (in this case mechanical flexing) did have an effect and it always does have an effect to some degree or other. The article also clearly divides "wind" into two distinct categories or properties, that of the mechanical flexing and of the airflow actually on the plant material. When it later refers to the airflow having a negative effect on the plant don't confuse this as meaning wind in general, it merely means the physical action of airflow over the plant! In these experiments the plant would have been tied so as to not allow the air to cause a mechanical flex.

I can't be arsed to look back through the list of posts but whoever it was that said wind has no effect couldn't be more wrong, full stop. Thigmomorphogenesis is a definite real non-imaginary reaction to stimulus, wind being a good example of suitable stimulus.

However, whether the effects of a fan are beneficial or not.... I'm not experienced enough growing MJ to know!

And it's real late so sorry if that sounds garbled LOL

lol i said it doesnt strengthen stems, at no point did I say it does not effect plants... once again, I have 4 fans...

 

[phyzix]

Geez chill with the bickering.