mindphuk
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May 20th - Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!
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dukeofbaja
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I can't wait for this thread to degenerate, in the meantime I will simply add that there are extremists in every religion. I do find it comical how much outrage has been spurred by a comic though....
kendothegreenwizard
Active Member
What is comical is how you support extremist ideals that threaten and even kill in the name of their God by pointing out that ," THere are extremists in every religion"
Yes but how many religions kill and threaten over a cartoon depiction, that is what is truly comical relief. You would cut your nose to spite your face if it meant following your dogamatic agenda. You overlook the fact that THese extremists are threatening Americans right to their 1st amendment rights by threatening them for their depiction of Mo.
I applaud the Draw Mo day, I say thrust their ridiculous natures in their faces and let them know that this is America and we are not going to let them subjeagte us into accepting their extremist agenda fo threatening thiose who excersize their 1st amendment rights.
Padawanbater2
Well-Known Member
Death threats - just another thing religion has brought to the table.
Ain't it wonderful!
Ain't it wonderful!
kendothegreenwizard
Active Member
I just posted on the page that I will not draw a picture of Mohammed because I do not wish to hurt muslims.
After reading a few of the posts from both sides. I had to realize that there is no point in being an ass and drawing a picture to simply hurt them . I also stated that I have joined the group because I support a persons right to do so. I detest racists but would defend a racists right to his racist views and the right to stand on a street corner with a sign stating his views.
After reading a few of the posts from both sides. I had to realize that there is no point in being an ass and drawing a picture to simply hurt them . I also stated that I have joined the group because I support a persons right to do so. I detest racists but would defend a racists right to his racist views and the right to stand on a street corner with a sign stating his views.
dukeofbaja
New Member
When did I say I SUPPORT extremism? Quote please.
What I said was simply that 'extremists exist in every religion'.
I also stated that I find great hilarity in the fact that THESE extremists are calling for beheadings due to a CARTOON. They are absurd.
But I would wager that if you were to ask every muslim in the world if they would behead you for insulting their religion, the majrity wouldn't. But who knows....
hanimmal
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I think it is time to rip this bandaid off. Any portion of a religious group that threatens violence because their ficticious character is on tv has lost touch, they should just either get over it, or realize that they do not have power to tell someone else what to do because they do not approve of it, especially if for nothing else than drawing someone.
And if they refuse to, it is their problem, but to say that someone cannot do what they want will never work. And if their religion did not build in that safeguard of forgive and forget, fuck it they should have had a better author.
And if they refuse to, it is their problem, but to say that someone cannot do what they want will never work. And if their religion did not build in that safeguard of forgive and forget, fuck it they should have had a better author.
doc111
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I don't think that religion holds the patent on death threats............do they?
Padawanbater2
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You're right, but it makes one wonder how such a terrible thing could come from something, seemingly, so moral.I don't think that religion holds the patent on death threats............do they?
Hmm... makes one wonder indeed...
doc111
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It's the same as with everything else. There are always those who will take things to the extreme. There are always those who hide behind religion and will quote some scripture that they think gives them license to commit horrendous acts. It's usually some ignorant fuck who can't see the irony of their action. I mean, threatening to kill someone because they have done something reprehensible, no matter what the act is, well, it's quite fucked up. Those people are usually mentally ill or incredibly stupid. If a person wants to be true to their own faith then they can't quote one verse of scripture out of context because there is probably another verse somewhere in their religious text which contradicts it in some way. Sports stars often get death threats when they don't perform up to the standard that some fanatical fan thinks they should. Neighbors get death threats for letting their dog poop on someone elses lawn. How silly is that?
tinyTURTLE
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this is gonna be so much fun!
Padawanbater2
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It's the same as with everything else. There are always those who will take things to the extreme. There are always those who hide behind religion and will quote some scripture that they think gives them license to commit horrendous acts. It's usually some ignorant fuck who can't see the irony of their action. I mean, threatening to kill someone because they have done something reprehensible, no matter what the act is, well, it's quite fucked up. Those people are usually mentally ill or incredibly stupid. If a person wants to be true to their own faith then they can't quote one verse of scripture out of context because there is probably another verse somewhere in their religious text which contradicts it in some way. Sports stars often get death threats when they don't perform up to the standard that some fanatical fan thinks they should. Neighbors get death threats for letting their dog poop on someone elses lawn. How silly is that?
Extremely silly. My point is, none of those people are claiming moral superiority, claiming what they're doing is the right thing and everyone else should do the same things and live the same ways. Religion, and religious people do.
doc111
Well-Known Member
I think you are missing my point.
It doesn't matter what the reason is, people threaten other people. Moral superiority, skin color, not being able to hit a free throw, whatever. I guess I'm confused about why it makes a difference. Why is it more heinous when a person threatens his fellow man in the name of religion as opposed to the color of his house? I don't need religion in order to claim moral superiority or any other kind of superiority for that matter. Humans are arrogant creatures and everybody always thinks that "they" are correct. Usually "they" aren't but it doesn't stop "them" from thinking "they" are. 
tinyTURTLE
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what is all this arguing about?
shut up and draw.
shut up and draw.
Padawanbater2
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Because the person threatening death because of his religion believes he's doing the right thing. I'm sure you'll agree, it's (obviously) a bit dangerous to have people with such beliefs running around in our society. You're treading the political correct line and don't seem willing to call the shit for what it is, just because it's religion. It's OK to criticize religion Doc, there's no hell to go to.
doc111
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The person threatening death always thinks they are right.............why else would they be threatening to kill a person? It sure as shit isn't because they think they are wrong.
I don't want to put words in your mouth but it's as if you are saying that threats made under the veil of religion are somehow worse than threats made for something not of a religious nature. How can someone claim this? It makes no sense to me. Killing is wrong, no matter what the reason. Nutjobs are nutjobs man. It doesn't matter if they are holding a bible or wearing a fucking Lakers jersey!Maybe you're correct about there being no hell. You already know my stance on the issue. I criticize religion when it's warranted. I am not on some crusade to eliminate religion from the world. You seem to have trouble separating the nutjobs from the dogma. People who kill in the name of religion, no matter the faith, are not representative of their respective faiths. They are usually disturbed individuals who use religion to justify their heinous acts. They are just as wrong as the person who kills the guy who just cut him off in traffic. No more, no less.
Padawanbater2
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Take religion away, all of it, completely away. These people no longer have reasons in their minds that justify these insane actions. Other people in positions of power can't use these reasons to manipulate the people that believe them. It's a lot harder to manipulate an educated person than it is a gullible one.The person threatening death always thinks they are right.............why else would they be threatening to kill a person? It sure as shit isn't because they think they are wrong.
Maybe you're correct about there being no hell. You already know my stance on the issue. I criticize religion when it's warranted. I am not on some crusade to eliminate religion from the world. You seem to have trouble separating the nutjobs from the dogma. People who kill in the name of religion, no matter the faith, are not representative of their respective faiths. They are usually disturbed individuals who use religion to justify their heinous acts. They are just as wrong as the person who kills the guy who just cut him off in traffic. No more, no less.
Take it all away and the justification for threatening someones life falls on the responsibility for each individual to be held accountable for their own actions. It is what we should strive for.
A crusade against religion? I'd call it a second enlightenment.
undertheice
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one excuse is as good as another. take away the justifications that religion gives and others will be found to take its place. the soviet union, essentially a religionless nation, found plenty of reasons to perform various abominations, justifying them with a belief system based on totally secular ideologies that took the place of religious mania.