Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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jjfoo

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overmyhead,

I top my rooted clippings at the fourth node. They are not node sets like with seeds so they span a little more distance. I top them, then veg for a few weeks, then when I flower them they are really bushy and strong (no stakes or strings needed).

I usually let the rooted clipping start growing until it it is about 12 inches tall, then take the top half off.
 

overmyhead

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Thanks friend. Have you tried any un topped to see if the yield's different? Also have you ever heard that some strains don't respond to it? THanks again.
overmyhead,

I top my rooted clippings at the fourth node. They are not node sets like with seeds so they span a little more distance. I top them, then veg for a few weeks, then when I flower them they are really bushy and strong (no stakes or strings needed).

I usually let the rooted clipping start growing until it it is about 12 inches tall, then take the top half off.
 

SIRE

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Whats going on Dave gotta question during flowering can you cut branches not receiving much light? i know ur suppose to prune before hand but i slipped on my cindy99 and the branches r so unmanageable becuz i let them veg a little too long
 

DaveCoulier

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Whats going on Dave gotta question during flowering can you cut branches not receiving much light? i know ur suppose to prune before hand but i slipped on my cindy99 and the branches r so unmanageable becuz i let them veg a little too long

I personally love unmanageable plants with branches going in every direction :), but the only time I remove any branches at all is when I am late into flowering, and its lost most of its leaves, and theres no chance of buds forming on that branch. This will most likely be near the bottom of your plant. Otherwise, I leave everything alone. They may not get alot of light down there, but the light they do get is still aiding photosynthesis.
 

SIRE

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I personally love unmanageable plants with branches going in every direction :), but the only time I remove any branches at all is when I am late into flowering, and its lost most of its leaves, and theres no chance of buds forming on that branch. This will most likely be near the bottom of your plant. Otherwise, I leave everything alone. They may not get alot of light down there, but the light they do get is still aiding photosynthesis.
have u ever grown a sativa hybrid indoors? and if so how do u go about handling the braches? im growing in a tent and its 3.3x3.3x6
 

SIRE

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I personally love unmanageable plants with branches going in every direction :), but the only time I remove any branches at all is when I am late into flowering, and its lost most of its leaves, and theres no chance of buds forming on that branch. This will most likely be near the bottom of your plant. Otherwise, I leave everything alone. They may not get alot of light down there, but the light they do get is still aiding photosynthesis.
i met to ask too is it normal to lose a lot of leaves during flowering?
 

jjfoo

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overmyhead,

I used to cut off all the lower limbs and top the very top. I've never not topped at all but plan to this cycle. I'n my limited experience when I top high the plant falls over. Out door plants get blown a lot and the stems are really strong. Indoor plants seem to need topping for me or I need to get strings to hold them up. Last week I took a plant that was vegged inside to my friends outside garden, his plants didn't move in the wind, mine was almost getting knocked down. Maybe I need to have my fan blow harder to make them stiffer. Still learning.
 

DaveCoulier

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have u ever grown a sativa hybrid indoors? and if so how do u go about handling the braches? im growing in a tent and its 3.3x3.3x6
Check out my grow journal in my signature to see some mainly sativa plants I just started flowering. Their branching is sick. I also have more space than you, so im not too worried if they get out of hand. I would suggest trying some lst if necessary. Ive started tying down my Skunk Hazes as they are reaching for the lights, and they still got a lot of stretching to do.

i met to ask too is it normal to lose a lot of leaves during flowering?
There are a lot of reasons why we lose leaves, but no its not normal. I tend to lose a fair amount of lower leaves at the start of flowering. I know lack of water lead to this being the main culprit this time around. The plants were using water at a faster rate than I realized and were becoming under watered. So, I gave them a good drenching after adding some mosquito dunks to my water. I needed to treat my gnat infestation, and get them hydrated. Well it was too much water, and the plants reacted by more leaf abscission. There are alot of causes of leaf loss.

It could also be caused because you are not supplying enough nutrients to your plants. If you are having healthy looking leaves fall off its most likely a symptom of too much moisture, or not enough. If the leaves look deficient, and you know your not over-watering, or under-watering, then you may need to up your feedings.
 

SIRE

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Check out my grow journal in my signature to see some mainly sativa plants I just started flowering. Their branching is sick. I also have more space than you, so im not too worried if they get out of hand. I would suggest trying some lst if necessary. Ive started tying down my Skunk Hazes as they are reaching for the lights, and they still got a lot of stretching to do.

i tried to check u out but i dont no how can u send me the link? ur rite on two accounts the 1st was yeah i was under watering 2nd yeah my space is limited so hopefully me putin(the cindy99) in flowering at 6-10 inches tall will work out for me. also how long do people with potent good tasting product cure there dope for?
 

Uncle Ben

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I finally got my friends digital camera, so here are some pics of lateral branching from the cotyledons. You can still see the shriveled up cotyledons in some of the pics. This is also a plant I accidentally lopped off one of its future main colas. Ooops.

Here are a couple of imageshack link in case anyone is having problems with thumbnails here.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9528/picture030p.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4669/picture024e.jpg

Here is the big girl in all her glory(I believe its a girl). The wingspan on this bitch is insane. The bottom two branches is a little over 2.5 feet. If I hadn't lopped off the other cola, it'd probably be 3-3.5 feet for the upper ones.

This is also day one of flower. She's going to stretch like crazy on me. Oh yeah, dont anyone yell at me for having the ballast on the floor. Its going up on the wall tomorrow.
I have to take your word for it DC, no big deal. Tried 2 browsers and images won't load. I did load on URL image but can't tell much. Can't reply with a quote unless I hit the multi-quote, lot's of crippling here. Can't believe they haven't fixed this website. I'm beginning to think it was sold to someone that doesn't know what they're doing. Anyhoo, until next time.....

Grow hard,
UB
 

Danielsgb

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I have to take your word for it DC, no big deal. Tried 2 browsers and images won't load. I did load on URL image but can't tell much. Can't reply with a quote unless I hit the multi-quote, lot's of crippling here. Can't believe they haven't fixed this website. I'm beginning to think it was sold to someone that doesn't know what they're doing. Anyhoo, until next time.....

Grow hard,
UB
Uncle Ben,
I was glad to see the master pop in. Seems like less activity since 4/20. The FAQ still isn't fixed.:wall: The journal/blog crap seems pointless. I'd post pics of the 3 I topped thanks to you but it'd just piss you off not being able to see them. I'd think the admin. would get it fixed for you alone. Just my Two Cents.
Daniels
 

DaveCoulier

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Check out my grow journal in my signature to see some mainly sativa plants I just started flowering. Their branching is sick. I also have more space than you, so im not too worried if they get out of hand. I would suggest trying some lst if necessary. Ive started tying down my Skunk Hazes as they are reaching for the lights, and they still got a lot of stretching to do.

i tried to check u out but i dont no how can u send me the link? ur rite on two accounts the 1st was yeah i was under watering 2nd yeah my space is limited so hopefully me putin(the cindy99) in flowering at 6-10 inches tall will work out for me. also how long do people with potent good tasting product cure there dope for?
Ill pm you a link to my grow journal. Cindy99 isnt supposed to be a long lanky sativa, so I imagine you can get by flowering at that height. Regarding curing, Id give your buds a month of curing. Im also gonna include a great link about curing for you as well.
 

Uncle Ben

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Uncle Ben,
I was glad to see the master pop in. Seems like less activity since 4/20. The FAQ still isn't fixed.:wall: The journal/blog crap seems pointless. I'd post pics of the 3 I topped thanks to you but it'd just piss you off not being able to see them. I'd think the admin. would get it fixed for you alone. Just my Two Cents.
Daniels
In my opinion, RIU is toast. I'm all about done here.

Grow hard,
UB
 

gangaman

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This is BY FAR the best thread I've seen on the subject. Thank you Uncle Ben & Born2KillSpam for all the incredible knowledge. I just got some Master Kush seeds from Nirvana and I can't wait to try Uncle Ben's technique.

Cheers
 

SIRE

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Ill pm you a link to my grow journal. Cindy99 isnt supposed to be a long lanky sativa, so I imagine you can get by flowering at that height. Regarding curing, Id give your buds a month of curing. Im also gonna include a great link about curing for you as well.
Once again good looking out Dave! yeah i see what u mean. had a few questions well right now im in my last stages of flowering. 1st question can u just harvest the top half of my plant? the bottom seems as if it needs a little more time so can i harvest from top to middle? also how do u make a suitible drying box? gotta b stealth so i'll put some "ona" around the box
 

jjfoo

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UB, I am thinking of setting up a document management system. It is not a forum, but people can edit stuff easily and even colaborate on document creation. There are comments and things that permit discussion. I want to have a system where people serious about learning can share info and create and maintain documents. There will be no ads anywhere on the site. It wont generate money at all, just be a growing collection of documents.

I'd love for you to check it out if I get it set up. Where will you be hanging out if you leave RIU?

I would set it up this very moment if I felt safe running it on my own IP address. I live in CA and am registered with the state as a medical mj patient. I am somewhat paranoid about hosting a web site of this type. Anyone know how much legal liability there is in running a site like this? I just really want to see a non commercial site that is focused on facts and feel like I want to set it up.
 

Uncle Ben

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jjfoo, I'd think real hard about that. Sounds good on the surface but there are alot of caveats to deal with. Cannabis sites are a dime a dozen and they come and go. I've been a member of at least 4 very large, very active sites, all defunct now.

SIRE, harvest the big colas, put the plant back under the lights to bulk up the lower ones. Only works if you've retained lower leaves.

Good luck,
UB
 

SIRE

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jjfoo, I'd think real hard about that. Sounds good on the surface but there are alot of caveats to deal with. Cannabis sites are a dime a dozen and they come and go. I've been a member of at least 4 very large, very active sites, all defunct now.

SIRE, harvest the big colas, put the plant back under the lights to bulk up the lower ones. Only works if you've retained lower leaves.

Good luck,
UB
Whats going on Unch! thanks for ur input. i dont wanna ask a silly question but would it b better if i harvest the branches or cut across the middle of the main stem
 

SIRE

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jjfoo, I'd think real hard about that. Sounds good on the surface but there are alot of caveats to deal with. Cannabis sites are a dime a dozen and they come and go. I've been a member of at least 4 very large, very active sites, all defunct now.

SIRE, harvest the big colas, put the plant back under the lights to bulk up the lower ones. Only works if you've retained lower leaves.

Good luck,
UB
I'm referring to either harvesting individual branches or cutting across the main stem
 
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