the chitown sourkush thread

poplars

poplars

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Integra21 said:
It is quite clear that you are just one of those people that believes that a bad experience you had once writes the rules for how every plant grows and the only way to get you to understand that there is always more than one right answer is to prove to you that you have no idea what you are talking about. Luckily for me Im waiting for my clones to root so I can sex my new mothers. I raise all of my clones under "puny ass cfl's" and I will put them outside at various stages of growth and that way I can just show you that you're being silly like and end of the world doomsday prophet "if you put plants outside they will die". And do you seriously believe that the lumens put out by the sun are the hardest thing for a plant to adapt to? Do you live on top of Mt. Everest and is there a newley developed hole in the ozone layer, so that if you just throw a plant out there it bursts into flames. Do you have any way of proving that the sun murders poor innocent plants everytime its their first trip outside as you made it so clear to Howat thats what would happen? Over the next 2 months I will have the proof it doesnt. And have you ever seen a UVB bulb? Guess what it is, a vag spectrum cfl. But I guess that just shows how little you know about indoor gardening at least. Pics will start in the next week or so.
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blah blah blah blah . . . . .


you're still trying to say that a plant grown under CFLs its entire life doesn't need to adapt to the sun?


how bout you try putting a clone in direct sunlight on 75 degree day . .. . see how it's leaves look by the end of the day.

and then try telling me that the most a clone has to adapt to is the RH, temperature, and weather?

are you fucking serious?


and just to clarify . . . I'm not talking about copying outdoor conditions by putting in UV bulbs, using bigger lights like HPS that do resemble the sun in heat and UV conditions . .

I'm talking about growing a plant it's entire life under florescent lights and then putting it outside . . . you're telling me that it's already ready for the sun?

trust me I've done this before, and obviously you haven't. you should just stop while you're ahead because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
 
howak47

howak47

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poplars said:
nice variety there howak
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thanks poplars it all taste and smokes so good :)but only 3 bags are mine the other to are for a friend this shit is so $$$ here that one nug would normally cost $25 i was able to get him down to $15 a gram since we got 5 of them and he owed me a favor ....cant wait till my shit is cured see why i grow it hahah cost way to much $$ in this fucking state
 
poplars

poplars

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for sure . . . weed costs too much in general . . . I'd be screwed if I had to pay for it . . .


that's why I like outdoor growing . . . . work hella hard for one big harvest . . .once a year.
 
howak47

howak47

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poplars said:
for sure . . . weed costs too much in general . . . I'd be screwed if I had to pay for it . . .


that's why I like outdoor growing . . . . work hella hard for one big harvest . . .once a year.
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yea thats the truth it is way to much $$$
yea i got a friend that does one big outdoor grow a year and gets a shit load enough for him and his wife all year i just cant do that where i live right now or i would do both indoor and outdoor!!:)
 
poplars

poplars

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for sure bro . . . I had a smaller harvest than I would have liked last year and I still have enough for the entire year! it's great.

if you get somewhere where you can do outdoor . . . I have a feeling after a while you'd just do outdoor... because if you can do one outdoor and have bud for an entire year as opposed to having to do perpetual harvests . . .

I mean there is the factor of variety . . . but outdoor variety is much better than indoor variety imo . . . as the highs of the outdoor bud last longer, much longer.

I mean don't get me wrong, indoor bud tastes great, gives a great high, but it simply doesn't have the longevity that outdoor bud has, with the high or the tolerance.
 
howak47

howak47

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yea i s where u comeing from! that may be true i have never really grown any DANK outside its all just been bagseed
 
poplars

poplars

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yeah . . . don't worry bro one day you'll be able to do it . . . when this country pulls its head out of its ass and legalizes federally . . .

or hell, maybe your state has a medical bill in the works . . .


and if not . . . maybe you should get one goign?
 
theexpress

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poplars said:
for sure bro . . . I had a smaller harvest than I would have liked last year and I still have enough for the entire year! it's great.

if you get somewhere where you can do outdoor . . . I have a feeling after a while you'd just do outdoor... because if you can do one outdoor and have bud for an entire year as opposed to having to do perpetual harvests . . .

I mean there is the factor of variety . . . but outdoor variety is much better than indoor variety imo . . . as the highs of the outdoor bud last longer, much longer.

I mean don't get me wrong, indoor bud tastes great, gives a great high, but it simply doesn't have the longevity that outdoor bud has, with the high or the tolerance.
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interesting theory pops......... i got some indoor and outdoor sk going ima see see if thats true... i have grown and smoke same strains grown inside and out, but cant recall which high lasted longer.... never really thought about that comparisson before...
 
howak47

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theexpress said:
nice nuggets howak!!!!!!!!!
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thanks chi!!

poplars said:
yeah . . . don't worry bro one day you'll be able to do it . . . when this country pulls its head out of its ass and legalizes federally . . .

or hell, maybe your state has a medical bill in the works . . .


and if not . . . maybe you should get one goign?
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yeah that would be great!!!!!!!! and no i have checked wrote letters to people and nothing but negitive shit but we will be getting new governor in nov dont know if any of them are pro weed but probly not:( i just want to move somewhere but cant cause of my fuckin job
 
poplars

poplars

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theexpress said:
interesting theory pops......... i got some indoor and outdoor sk going ima see see if thats true... i have grown and smoke same strains grown inside and out, but cant recall which high lasted longer.... never really thought about that comparisson before...
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I've had a lot of indoor bud . . . hella chronic indoor bud too . . . the high was always nice for like an hour . . . then it dropped out dramatically.

with all the /good/ outdoor bud I've ever smoked . . . I usually have atleast a 2 hour high.

but yeah bro it'd be cool for you to test that for yourself too, always good to have more sources for such information!
 
Integra21

Integra21

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poplars said:
blah blah blah blah . . . . .


you're still trying to say that a plant grown under CFLs its entire life doesn't need to adapt to the sun?


how bout you try putting a clone in direct sunlight on 75 degree day . .. . see how it's leaves look by the end of the day.

and then try telling me that the most a clone has to adapt to is the RH, temperature, and weather?

are you fucking serious?


and just to clarify . . . I'm not talking about copying outdoor conditions by putting in UV bulbs, using bigger lights like HPS that do resemble the sun in heat and UV conditions . .

I'm talking about growing a plant it's entire life under florescent lights and then putting it outside . . . you're telling me that it's already ready for the sun?

trust me I've done this before, and obviously you haven't. you should just stop while you're ahead because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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I dont know if Im just using words that are to big for you or what, but you're not understanding what Im saying at all. Every plant needs to adapt to any change in its environment. All's Im am trying to get across is that of all the adaptations a plant must make with a move from indoor to outdoor, getting used to the sun is the easiest. You keep saying I have no idea what Im talking about based solely on the fact that I disagree with you about moving a plant outside. I have a real good knowledge base when it comes to mj and have tons of threads on this site and others proving that I know what Im doing. By your words and rules, you would never be able to move any plant from indoors to outdoors since the sun would just fry it. Considering that every plant Ive done outside started off inside, where it grew for its entire life, and then got move outside, buty guess what, none of them spontaeously combusted, no leaves culed and dies, the plants didnt suffer a horrible fate like you have boldly promised they would.
You are clearly a piss poor grower if you cant handle a simple indoor to outdoor transplant without killing your girls. Its a simple fact that the more mature a plant is, the easier it can get accomodated to outdoor conditions with the exception of moist conditions for plants in late flower. Just last week I took a clone out of my dwc tub that was barely rooted, transplantd it to soil, and threw it out in direct sulight with no conditioning of any kind. And if I listened to one useless word that came out of your mouth, that plant would be dead and I shouldnt even check on it, but low and behold, its doing fantastic with no signs of stress and growth has taken off. The [plant is now in texas with a new grower keeping watch over her. So simple said, you have no idea how to grow and should just give up now. And if youve never smoked indoor herb that gave you a high that lasted for more than an hour, you need some new friends with real genetics. My blue kush tastes better and gets you higher and lasts longer than clones from the same mom grown outdoors. Its called suplimenting UVB, the speculated reason why outdoor plants generally have more potency, especially in equtorial reigions. But any grower who can do a little research can quickly and cheaply upgrade their room to have a slightly higher uvb concentration than the sun and get killer herb. But I guess the pounds of herb I grow and ounces of hassh I get from each run show how novice of a grower I am and I clearly have no idea what Im doing or talking about. Enjoy your ditchweed.
 
poplars

poplars

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Integra21 said:
I dont know if Im just using words that are to big for you or what, but you're not understanding what Im saying at all. Every plant needs to adapt to any change in its environment. All's Im am trying to get across is that of all the adaptations a plant must make with a move from indoor to outdoor, getting used to the sun is the easiest. You keep saying I have no idea what Im talking about based solely on the fact that I disagree with you about moving a plant outside. I have a real good knowledge base when it comes to mj and have tons of threads on this site and others proving that I know what Im doing. By your words and rules, you would never be able to move any plant from indoors to outdoors since the sun would just fry it. Considering that every plant Ive done outside started off inside, where it grew for its entire life, and then got move outside, buty guess what, none of them spontaeously combusted, no leaves culed and dies, the plants didnt suffer a horrible fate like you have boldly promised they would.
You are clearly a piss poor grower if you cant handle a simple indoor to outdoor transplant without killing your girls. Its a simple fact that the more mature a plant is, the easier it can get accomodated to outdoor conditions with the exception of moist conditions for plants in late flower. Just last week I took a clone out of my dwc tub that was barely rooted, transplantd it to soil, and threw it out in direct sulight with no conditioning of any kind. And if I listened to one useless word that came out of your mouth, that plant would be dead and I shouldnt even check on it, but low and behold, its doing fantastic with no signs of stress and growth has taken off. The [plant is now in texas with a new grower keeping watch over her. So simple said, you have no idea how to grow and should just give up now. And if youve never smoked indoor herb that gave you a high that lasted for more than an hour, you need some new friends with real genetics. My blue kush tastes better and gets you higher and lasts longer than clones from the same mom grown outdoors. Its called suplimenting UVB, the speculated reason why outdoor plants generally have more potency, especially in equtorial reigions. But any grower who can do a little research can quickly and cheaply upgrade their room to have a slightly higher uvb concentration than the sun and get killer herb. But I guess the pounds of herb I grow and ounces of hassh I get from each run show how novice of a grower I am and I clearly have no idea what Im doing or talking about. Enjoy your ditchweed.
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I'm saying you can't put a plant out in direct sunlight all day, you have to adapt it slightly slowly. perhaps by putting it in the shade for a day or two first, then in direct sunlight.

if you're growing plants under a 400W HPS, then you throw them outdoors, they're going to do MUCH better than plants that have been grown under CFLS their entire life.

I'm not saying the plant will die 100% of the time . . . . I'm saying you will have fried old leaves, and the plant will struggle to adapt if you simply throw it out there if it's only seen CFL or weak florescent light it's entire life. it probably will die if you grow it under a weak ass 26W CFL and then throw it in direct sunlight all day . . .

what is so hard to realize about what I'm saying? for sure you can have a good plant grown under HPS its entire life go outside and do just fine with no problems . . .I"M TALKING ABOUT WEAKER FUCKING LIGHTS YOU IDIOT how bout you READ WHAT I"M SAYING!

and screw you for assuming I've never smoked good indoor bud in my life. that's a really pathetic assumption on your part as I live in california and I've probably smoked better shit than you have in your entire life.

and get the fuck out of here with that blue kush . . . that shit aint nothing special.
and besides, how the fuck am I supposed to know you're even worth your word when it comes to growing good outdoor bud? your opinion means shit when it comes to growing the same exact strain outside.

here's a pic of some indoor I blazed yesterday that only kept me high an hour . . . you tell me this is some weak shit?

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t267/poplars/Picture028.jpg

enjoy YOUR ditchweed, prick.
 
poplars

poplars

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god its amazing how you can be such an ignorant prick and act like you're right when you clearly are not reading the words I am saying.

you can just fuck off now . . . I don't want to even read your next bs response because it's likely to be just as dumb as the last 3.

also if you do reply again, LEARN HOW TO USE PARAGRAPHS YOU PRICK. just because you have one mass of large text doesn't make it any more intimidating or make me any less likely to pick apart your pathetic argument.
 
poplars

poplars

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I'm not the one fighting here . . . he's the one being a moron and not reading my actual words . .. making the assumption that I was saying ALL indoor plants will die in direct sunlight . . .

when I was actually saying that a plant grown under weak ass CFLS or florescent tubes its entire life will probably die or lose most of its leaves to burn in direct sunlight all day without any hardening up . . . .
 
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