Dr. Greenhorn
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Hey, whatever the fuck you say boss... Since you think you fuckin know everything.
the chitown sourkush thread
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Dr. Greenhorn
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So if I stay under hid and supplemental uv lighting then go under the sun, I shouldn't get a sunburn then cause I "hardened up" under indoor lighting.
highflyby
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr. Greenhorn again.
Good call bro lol
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Bro you didnt know?
Integra21
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I feel bad now. It seems like we are messing up Howak's thread with this argument and its getting nowhere. We shouldnt really keep posting on the subject unless its short and to the point, with pics to prove your statements, and with out the name calling(im guilty of). I have respect for Dr. G's opinion just because I'm very familiar with his grows, but lets face it, the sun is a little more intense where he lives, at least compared to where I grow(Northern Midwest USA) and could possibly have more of an adverse effect on his plants then mine. The only plant I have document growing outside is this one which was a 3 week old clone grown inder 2 42w 5700K cfl's. It wasn't weathered at all and placed outside last June. Sadly, I took the first pic after it had been outdoors for 2 months, but it went out in perfect health and stayed that way until the flush.
But Docs got me second guessing myself. I will still be puting my clones for sexing outside (Have 6) starting at week 4 of flower and putting another one out each week unlil the last ones are moved out in their last weeks of flower. I will keep detailed logs of it in my journal and post links here for people who want to follow. And who knows, Maybe I'll turn out to be wrong, but I forsee no problems of burning happening to the plants. It would be awesome if you could get a couple out each(Chitown and Poplars) for comparison and maybe see if geograpghy has a bigger role in the suns affects. Let me know if you guys are down, just seemed like a good idea compared to our non-stop bickering.
poplars
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I don't really like the edible high atleast with my bud this year . . . I grew heavy sativas so it puts me in this streaming head high all day thats sort of overwealming . . .
plus I usually use cannabutter and the taste kinda bothers me to the point where I'd rather just quit for two weeks than make edibles . . . .
Integra21
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I hear that, I dont like the taste either. I did hybrids so its a pretty intense mix of head and body, but the lkey is in the strength. I have always made canabutter with my trim until the last grow. Went all bubble hash. And i was sick of choking down 3 cookies to get a good buzz, so I went for broke on the last batch and it paid off. I used 3.5g's of hast in a single batch of cookies and got a couple of people sick, because we i didnt know that a single cookie would be too much. It ended up that 1/4 of a cookie gave you an intense high that lasted for 4-6 hours and even though I hate the taste, I could easily choke down a 1/4 of a cookie. But without a good hash stash, Im uncertain of what you'd need to achieve that strength.
howak47
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fuck yea iam feelin this shit my house is hoit as shit and i have had my air on full blast and its still hot ...i got to figure out something cause the temps in the tent are a little high yea i donkt know man just hope its in da shade
theexpress
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr. Greenhorn again.
Good call bro lol
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Bro you didnt know?
get your bitch ass off the block..... lol your no longer welcome here!!!
theexpress
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they were under 80 watts of old school fat t12 bulbs bro.... cool white.. the t5s were cool white to....
and dr. greenhorn. i cant speak on the tropics cuzz im not from there or grown there i know the sun is more intense there, but here i have zero issues with putting plants out in the sun at any time... i got plantas few days old from seed started outdoors doing fine, and clones that were clones first few weeks into bloom and housed under floros in the ground and doing fine....
theexpress
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lol bet you my clones make it doc....
theexpress
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Well i started germinating some bjeans last night 2 sour kush ,1 fem bubba kush,1 fem lemon skunk,2 aurora indica & 2 afghani crosses i looked at them when i got home today and the bubba kush had already poped openh that was less than 24 hours got to love that shit
hell yeah howak thats whats up
theexpress
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hahahahaha cant beleave i missed this one.. good one doc...... you cant compare skin cells to plant cells, and we arent no were near has efficient has plants at 1....cooling ourselfs, and 2....... dealing with the suns harmfull rays all day long... the sun can give us cancer... while the sun also makes plants grow... lol your my guy man but you trip me out... keep this in mind we dont go threw photosynthesis in the sun.. we only get tan, and are not to be in the sun for prolonged periods... cuzz it gives us mealnoma!!!!
hahahaha your a cool guy though doc.... how are the lil sks comming along?
howak47
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i just checked the seeds before i closed the room up for the night and one of the sourkush poped and the fem lemon skunk poped so these 2 and the fem bubba kush poped in under 24 hours !!!!!!
theexpress
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What one associates with "burning in the sun" is usually sunburn. Plants are very different from animals; they do not even have all of the same cell organelles that animals do. Taking this into consideration, plants do not have the kind of epidermal tissue (skin) that animals do, making it impossible for them to get sunburned.
What can happen to a plant from getting too much sunlight is dry out. Plants need water for photolysis, which is during the light-dependent reactions (when the sun is out) of photosynthesis. Without enough water and too much sunlight, a plant can catch aflame.
To prevent this, a plant's epidermal tissue secretes a waxy cuticle to prevent from dessication (drying out). Plants absorb the energy from the sun and use it for photosynthesis, which allows them to soak up water and prevents them from heating up as well. This is due to water's high specific heat, meaning that it takes a lot of energy to heat water. They make ATP (usable energy) when the sun is out, and use that ATP later to synthesize glucose when the sun isn't out (the light-independent reactions). ...MORE
while mostly true the former answer misses one major point. plant do get sun burned and not only dry out only they don't get burned the same way we do. sunlight contains many light wave lengths, some are high energy like UV which can be harmful to all living cells as it damages DNA. another problem with the sun is that in the process of absorbing the energy from the sun and harnessing it the process sometimes "overflows" a bit like a nuclear reactor overheating which creates free radicals. these are highly active molecules which can wreck havoc on living cells mainly by ruining membranes. plant produce many molecules that absorb and neutralize these radicals called antioxidants which are very healthy for us 'cos they help us deal with free radicals produced while breathing. most weedkillers do not directly harm the plant but instead damage these defense mechanism leaving the plant exposed to the harmful effects of the sun.
What can happen to a plant from getting too much sunlight is dry out. Plants need water for photolysis, which is during the light-dependent reactions (when the sun is out) of photosynthesis. Without enough water and too much sunlight, a plant can catch aflame.
To prevent this, a plant's epidermal tissue secretes a waxy cuticle to prevent from dessication (drying out). Plants absorb the energy from the sun and use it for photosynthesis, which allows them to soak up water and prevents them from heating up as well. This is due to water's high specific heat, meaning that it takes a lot of energy to heat water. They make ATP (usable energy) when the sun is out, and use that ATP later to synthesize glucose when the sun isn't out (the light-independent reactions). ...MORE
while mostly true the former answer misses one major point. plant do get sun burned and not only dry out only they don't get burned the same way we do. sunlight contains many light wave lengths, some are high energy like UV which can be harmful to all living cells as it damages DNA. another problem with the sun is that in the process of absorbing the energy from the sun and harnessing it the process sometimes "overflows" a bit like a nuclear reactor overheating which creates free radicals. these are highly active molecules which can wreck havoc on living cells mainly by ruining membranes. plant produce many molecules that absorb and neutralize these radicals called antioxidants which are very healthy for us 'cos they help us deal with free radicals produced while breathing. most weedkillers do not directly harm the plant but instead damage these defense mechanism leaving the plant exposed to the harmful effects of the sun.
Dr. Greenhorn
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You think they're gonna burn chief? Well your wrong there also. They're gonna wilt from the intense heat.
poplars
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uh, why did you say they were under 460 watts then? seriously wtf you just said one thing and then said another . . .
theexpress
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i dont understand what your tryna get at???? like i said i aint from hawaii.. i dont know how intense the sun is down there but here in illinois the sun does my plants no harm.. instead of hideing from the sun mine tend to follow the sun has it rises and sets... imagine that huh???? lol... listman man you like poplars is my guy.. your entitled to beleave what you want its your right, but if you think your gonns disprove me wrong somehow its not happening... what your saying makes no sense to me doggie....
i think if yall lost a plant thinking it was from the sun i think what append there is yall waterd the plants in the thick of the sun wich your not supposed to do..... thats a no no that indoor and outdoor growers can agree apon...
theexpress
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maybe you didnt understand... let me tell you fully... cuts were take of female sk early into flower..... they rooted in like ten days under {460 watts of cool white t5's} then were transferd to a new location to chill under 80 watts of pussy ass t12's before going right under the "deadly" sun.....
t12s also cool white