Been a Long Time Coming ~ Been a long Time Gone
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Rocky Mountain High
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I figured so but I know you are a mad scientist so I thought there could be experimentation going on.
condolences on Bob, I hate when I go to bed with Janet Jackson and wake up with Reggie!
condolences on Bob, I hate when I go to bed with Janet Jackson and wake up with Reggie!
Your Grandfather
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No experiments required with mycorrhaize, it works, at least for me. I would defer to FDD or Skunk for the 'expert' opinion.
Your Grandfather
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made me go back _ way back, before most of the readers of this journal were born (I was smoking weed with their parents, yeah) to all of the plants we had taken out of the ground, plus my own 'toilet' grows.
The toilet grows ended up with a root ball about 6~8 inches, and that included the lava rock. Plants that came out of the ground, pretty much always just had one main tap root.
So, I began this particular journey with the unstated goal of seeing if there was a correlation between root size and the plant size/production. Along the way, I learned that just like most things in life...... roots - given a choice will follow the path of least resistance. And in an indoor pot, that translates into a big snake of a root at the bottom. Which is IMHO, not what I am trying to achieve.
I want the most efficient processor of the nutes I apply to the soil. Bigger is not necessarily better ~ It is just bigger. Corollary would be, if you don't want the smallest, why would you want the biggest? Personally, I want the most average. This is the one which genetically will exhibit the most amount of positive characteristics and should be the subject of the breeding focus, but I digress, that is another journal.
Wake & Bake blather... Bottom line is.... Sips of water and not gulps. Trick the plant into trying to figure out where you are going to put the next sip of water. In my experience, the plant, will compensate by sending out ba-zillions of little root hairs, just waiting for those nutes to show up so they can process and send it to the conveyor belt. And those little root hairs are what, IMHO, really do the work. Also, I think that the substantial bed of pearlite discourages the tap root and encourages it to, do something more than make a snake at the bottom. I believe the tap root is to provide: a) an anchor; b) a way for the worker roots (the hairs) to communicate with the conveyor belt. c) be The Conveyor belt to the life above ground. If all I have is a big snake at the bottom of the pot, I've done something wrong.
At the end of the day, I've been successful in having a very robust plant in a small container without appreciably affecting the overall size of the plant. Which was pretty much my goal.
Now if only my nute, experiments would yield some 'interesting' results. /sigh
*This is my experience and your mileage may vary.
The toilet grows ended up with a root ball about 6~8 inches, and that included the lava rock. Plants that came out of the ground, pretty much always just had one main tap root.
So, I began this particular journey with the unstated goal of seeing if there was a correlation between root size and the plant size/production. Along the way, I learned that just like most things in life...... roots - given a choice will follow the path of least resistance. And in an indoor pot, that translates into a big snake of a root at the bottom. Which is IMHO, not what I am trying to achieve.
I want the most efficient processor of the nutes I apply to the soil. Bigger is not necessarily better ~ It is just bigger. Corollary would be, if you don't want the smallest, why would you want the biggest? Personally, I want the most average. This is the one which genetically will exhibit the most amount of positive characteristics and should be the subject of the breeding focus, but I digress, that is another journal.
Wake & Bake blather... Bottom line is.... Sips of water and not gulps. Trick the plant into trying to figure out where you are going to put the next sip of water. In my experience, the plant, will compensate by sending out ba-zillions of little root hairs, just waiting for those nutes to show up so they can process and send it to the conveyor belt. And those little root hairs are what, IMHO, really do the work. Also, I think that the substantial bed of pearlite discourages the tap root and encourages it to, do something more than make a snake at the bottom. I believe the tap root is to provide: a) an anchor; b) a way for the worker roots (the hairs) to communicate with the conveyor belt. c) be The Conveyor belt to the life above ground. If all I have is a big snake at the bottom of the pot, I've done something wrong.
At the end of the day, I've been successful in having a very robust plant in a small container without appreciably affecting the overall size of the plant. Which was pretty much my goal.
Now if only my nute, experiments would yield some 'interesting' results. /sigh*This is my experience and your mileage may vary.
Your Grandfather
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Ewwwwww... yuck, yuck.... Not kewl, at all. I heard that Koosh once woke up on a park bench ....but that is another story
Koosh - I'm joking
Your Grandfather
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Tahoe, my brother
, you are like a wealth of were to get stuff. 
You never cease to amaze me with the sites.... Keep on truckin. 
mastakoosh
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that is not funny at all because i live on a park bench.Ewwwwww... yuck, yuck.... Not kewl, at all. I heard that Koosh once woke up on a park bench ....but that is another story
i cant help it that i am not rich... j/k not to be making light of homeless,but i did live in my pickup truck years ago. i have been following this root thing. i think the size of the root mass does not affect the size of a plant but sometimes it seems as though massive plants are in massive containers.
Your Grandfather
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Happy New Year Everyone!
The best for everyone
The best for everyone
Rocky Mountain High
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Happy New Year you old geezer!!
Thanks for all the help and advice and extras over the past few months, I truly appreciate YOU.
You are quite the resource for RIU.
Thanks for all the help and advice and extras over the past few months, I truly appreciate YOU.
You are quite the resource for RIU.
sgtpeppr
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Rocky Mountain High
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Man, get your azz up!!
Where ya at YGF, we missing you on New Years day!
Where ya at YGF, we missing you on New Years day!
tahoe58
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crazy-mental
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happy new year. gf
Your Grandfather
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Long story
I'm now the proud owner of a honda portable generator.
My power went out !!!!.....
We had a stooooooopid truck driver try to turn around and the top of his truck torn down the power line. 8
o am until 4o pm. My lights come on at 5 and off at 11, so I had 3 hours of power before the dark period, and then 7 hours of light.
Always wondered what would happen, if in the middle of a grow _ the plants didn't get light, for like ohhhhh 9 hours Guess I'm gonna find out
So, this presented me with a problem....WTF to do with the lights? After much thinking, I decided to do nothing. Absolutely nothing. I agonized about, if I should leave the lights on and then resume the schedule? But decided that there are very dark and stormy days in nature and also it would probably take more than 1 light cycle to change the vegetables into fruits.
Today, all looks like nothing ever happened. See for yourself My favorite pic is the 2nd.
Jah ! Rastafar I
I'm now the proud owner of a honda portable generator.
My power went out !!!!.....
We had a stooooooopid truck driver try to turn around and the top of his truck torn down the power line. 8o am until 4o pm. My lights come on at 5 and off at 11, so I had 3 hours of power before the dark period, and then 7 hours of light.Always wondered what would happen, if in the middle of a grow _ the plants didn't get light, for like ohhhhh 9 hours
Guess I'm gonna find outSo, this presented me with a problem....WTF to do with the lights? After much thinking, I decided to do nothing. Absolutely nothing. I agonized about, if I should leave the lights on and then resume the schedule? But decided that there are very dark and stormy days in nature and also it would probably take more than 1 light cycle to change the vegetables into fruits.
Today, all looks like nothing ever happened. See for yourself
My favorite pic is the 2nd.Jah ! Rastafar I
