Produce weed in 43 days

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Really? If you are indeed dialed in, the plant wouldn't drop all it's fans early in flowering period. That's not genetics, that's 'nute issues' and you are obviously not dialed in. 'It's genetics', that's funny. Blame your incompetence on the plant, nice
I trim my fan leafs to allow light to penetrate. They will become sappers and start taking more than they give soon anyway.
 

rzza

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prof i think he was talking to iamstoned. and i cant wait for the journal. how long after "and they're off" until they show pistils?
 

sixstring2112

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So is senci star your favorite, and what might some of the other top indicas be that fit the bill. Also, it sounds like one of the keys is in your cloning methods like the specific timing of when to take clones might make some strains go bang. Where do you start your nutes at when they hit 12/12 and how rapidly do they progress through flower or how hard do you hit them.You also talked about your co2 level being 1400, why not 1500 or 1700. Is 1400 your total with the 350 we have or do you add an additional 1400 ppm to your room.
 
Same as any plant that you put into flower. It's fricking cool to see this little 6 inch plant budding up. I wouldn't believe it either I guess now that I think back on it.
prof i think he was talking to iamstoned. and i cant wait for the journal. how long after "and they're off" until they show pistils?
 
So is senci star your favorite, and what might some of the other top indicas be that fit the bill. Also, it sounds like one of the keys is in your cloning methods like the specific timing of when to take clones might make some strains go bang. Where do you start your nutes at when they hit 12/12 and how rapidly do they progress through flower or how hard do you hit them.You also talked about your co2 level being 1400, why not 1500 or 1700. Is 1400 your total with the 350 we have or do you add an additional 1400 ppm to your room.
I've been working with a strain called C-4 lately that is (shit don't say anything) even faster. As far as cloning, that's another thing I was bashed for, I take mine from the lowest, and therefore, the most mature part of the plant. I also remove the outer half of any fan leafs on the clones so they don't sap strength that could otherwise be used for root production.
I am using House and Gardens right now, if you follow their weekly dosage you don't need to monitor ppm and ec, of course you need to drain as required. Why not 2,500 or3,000. 1,400ppm seems to be widely agreed on as the max recomended dose
 
Damn RMH, why you hell bent on jumping my ass? Thought we were all chill bro. I've been cordial and kind to you in PM's and don't get this. You don't get qualified as an expert in cannabis cultivation in the cort system if you don't know your shit. They frickin attack you on the stand dude. Could you cut the muster? I'm still the only person in our state to testify as an expert. I'll put my competency against yours any day my friend, how long you been at this again? How about chilling out?
Really? If you are indeed dialed in, the plant wouldn't drop all it's fans early in flowering period. That's not genetics, that's 'nute issues' and you are obviously not dialed in. 'It's genetics', that's funny. Blame your incompetence on the plant, nice
 

IAm5toned

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Really? If you are indeed dialed in, the plant wouldn't drop all it's fans early in flowering period. That's not genetics, that's 'nute issues' and you are obviously not dialed in. 'It's genetics', that's funny. Blame your incompetence on the plant, nice
put your money where your mouth is, and do a run of the strain, its cheap, less than 50 for a pack. find out for yourself.
those that can, do. those that cant, well, im sure you've heard the saying. im not here to argue nor take sides.
what type are you?
all i did was show how it IS done, without even having to depend on clones and hydroponics, and yet all i get is criticism because i mixed my soil with a tad too much bloodmeal.

nice
 

skunkushybrid01

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Hello Skunk, I actually don't add an extra 20-30 days of vegging to my grow. It really is a pretty simple concept regardless of the length of the grow. Here we go folks, obviously I am opperating in a hydroponic system, regardless of the hydro system you can do the same if your system will support the plant count. There isn't anything magic about growing in the time I've stated as long as the strain agrees. It has everything to do with strain, style of growing and techniques can speed things up a bit but the strain will dictate the grow time needed. I have worked with several that will flower in that time. The same technique can be used with a longer flowering strain with outstanding results.
I'm sure I don't need to say that a Mother plant must be maintained, and a small area for cloning too. When running a standard grow facility we grow strains that fall within the same time frame, we may have several strains but all that require the same flower time. Typically I'll clone 15 days before our projected start day. This allows for a good root structure to develope and a few days to harden the clones off to transition from the T-5's to HID lights well as, a 36 hour dark period before putting in the hydro system. Typically the clones are about 3 inches tall when flowering starts. I give them a good root excellerator and they're off. When a new grow facility is brought on line we will plan on starting each system a week apart thus harvest a week apart.

I don't veg because the plants get out of hand and the increase in yield isn't worth the time/work. I will be bringing a commoercial grow online in CO Springs in the next couple weeks that I'm going to post for all those who say it can't be done. I'll start a new thread and we'll see if I'm full of shit or not. Any specific questions are welcome.
I was talking to Iamstoned, not you... jeebus pucking heist.
 

skunkushybrid01

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put your money where your mouth is, and do a run of the strain, its cheap, less than 50 for a pack. find out for yourself.
those that can, do. those that cant, well, im sure you've heard the saying. im not here to argue nor take sides.
what type are you?
all i did was show how it IS done, without even having to depend on clones and hydroponics, and yet all i get is criticism because i mixed my soil with a tad too much bloodmeal.

nice

You haven't answered my questions yet.. for some reason prof marijuana thought i was talking to him.

You germinate your seeds on day 1. then your seeds veg for 3-4 weeks, then you flower for 3-4 weeks?

I'm not the only guy here that's lost with what you've said. You've basically said that you get from seed to weed in 43 days, and still have time for 3 weeks veg. doesn't make sense.
 

skunkushybrid01

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just FYI professor, I acknowledge and respect your far superior experience. I also think you're a decent guy behind all that hype.

I didn't even know the stomata are more heavily congregated on the underside of the leaf, so you've taught me that. Through another member at another site i've also been learning more on how useful these Brix meters are. Apparently it is possible, from the varying sugar content, to analyse whether a plant is lacking in a specific nutrient, or even a combination of nutrients?

I'm still not going to believe an indica stretching 24 times its start height in flower though.
 

automon

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It's bullshit because who are YOU to pass judgement over anyone else growing? Lame
Anyone should do what they want ofcourse, but my point is only that i have seen the pot 'industry' over here (guess where, its overseas) turn nasty over the last 20 years just because of the commercial moneyflow attrackting shitheads.. This makes it MUCH easier for the governments to put a halt to all this stuff (meaning, NO route to legalisation). Is that what we want?

Anyway, very OT so lets continue with talking about growing, k?
 

mikegreenethumb

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apparently you have problems reading and comprehending english.
i run 42-49 days, regardless of light schedule. when i said i run 42-49 days, i meant day 1 being as the day i soaked the seed, and day 42-49, the days they are cut. its pretty simple, its not rocket science.... day 1= seed soaking. days 42-49= harvest. i could do nothing but run 12/12, and do just fine, however i found that it is to my advantage to run 18/6 the first 3 weeks, the shortened node lengths are nice, but the true benefit comes from root mass.... i dont care if your running autos, sativas, or indicas, if you start form seed, the first 3-4 weeks the plant will veg, regardless of light schedule. in fact, you could run 4 hours of light, and 20 hours of darkness during that period, and still have a plant that is in the veg stage when its done, itll just be the weakest, stretchiest looking plant you've seen.
i have no reason to lie, brag or boast, i have been growing using this unique style for only 18 months.
i have been growing since st elswhere was on the air.......

your words themselves show your ignorance.... heat is a form of radiant heat, that is, the photons are in the infrared wavelength, and do not have the proper PAR to even be 'seen' by the plant, nevermind actually sustain a photosynthetic reaction. If your looking to increase your potency, i would suggest using a MH or CMH to get more UVB to your sugar leaves, which will promote trichrome growth, for the last 2-3 weeks of flowering, but im sure with your mighty intellect and immeasurable experience you will only tell me I am wrong, and that HPS is the only lamp that should be used for flowering because of its 2200-2700k rating, which coincidentally matches the afternoon/evening spectrum of the autumn sun at tropical lattitudes, cannabis's native habitat.

i appreciate the input, as i like to say im openminded, but you sir, are a troll. all i did was post my method with pics showing how this technique is done, and here you are telling me how to run my grow, which has provided me with all the killer i can smoke, without your input, for quite some time now.
i do not have 'nute issues' the strain in the pic is The Pure, by flying dutchmen, which is a nute hog, and drops all its fans early into flowering, regardless of how well you dial in your op. its genetics.... however to give you the benefit of the doubt, i will say i did need more cal-mag, some buffering was in porder for that batch of soil; also my hotsoil is so 'hot', it tends to have a tendency to really drop the ph at the end of the cycle... but its ok, i stress my plants like that on purpose. yeah, on purpose....... but im not going to tell you why, only because I read most of this thread, about 60 pages, and found that you apparently like telling everyone they are wrong, and that there techniques dont work, and yours are better.

And while im still ranting, if you've never seen a 24 foot indica, than you've apparantly never seen a landrace of afghanis.... they grow to heights of 30' in the wild, in races that consist of thousands of plants, you can literally hide an entire troop of m1a1 abrams main battle tanks quiet easily inside on of those landraces, and you wouldnt see it from 20 feet away.

so keep preaching your nonsense dude, and crank up that heat to improve your grow. attitudes like yours is what keeps people from posting in the first place.



nuff said.

and in this thread, is one of my current projects.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/343338-biggest-hydroponic-system-youve-never.html

please dont assume im a noob again, its common courtesy.
well put bro
 

skunkushybrid01

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i actually missed the part earlier where he said plants genetically drop all their fan leaves... for being a nutrient hog. then in the next breath he claims it is down to too much bloodmeal.

to top it off he harvests seeds in 42 days whilst giving them a 3 week veg at the same time.

glad you can understand him mate, maybe you'd care to enlighten me too as to wtf this guy is talking about?
 

Danielsgb

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i actually missed the part earlier where he said plants genetically drop all their fan leaves... for being a nutrient hog. then in the next breath he claims it is down to too much bloodmeal.

to top it off he harvests seeds in 42 days whilst giving them a 3 week veg at the same time.

glad you can understand him mate, maybe you'd care to enlighten me too as to wtf this guy is talking about?
Read his grow journal to understand what he's doing. He knows his shit. He's one of those on here that's in my "UB & Guru's" folder. Show some respect guys.
Daniels
 

sixstring2112

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I've been working with a strain called C-4 lately that is (shit don't say anything) even faster. As far as cloning, that's another thing I was bashed for, I take mine from the lowest, and therefore, the most mature part of the plant. I also remove the outer half of any fan leafs on the clones so they don't sap strength that could otherwise be used for root production.
I am using House and Gardens right now, if you follow their weekly dosage you don't need to monitor ppm and ec, of course you need to drain as required. Why not 2,500 or3,000. 1,400ppm seems to be widely agreed on as the max recomended dose
Thanks, that gave me some answers. The cloning method is almost answered, i take mine from any branch that looks good top or bottom and i to cut the fans in half if they are big. But i was asking more like the age of the mother , if your mother is 4 weeks into flower or just a vegging mom on 18/6. Mine always come from a veging mom, no buds.As far as the co2 i run mine at 1200 ppm but if you add the 350 that is in our air i get roughly 1550 ppm.You say 1400 is widely agreed on but i have read more times than not that the number is 1500 not that you are too far off. I have read where some even use 2000 ppm just to make sure the plant ALWAYS receives at least 1500 at all times, just curious as to where your settings really are.I am not trying to bust your balls on this like some, just wondering how to knock off the 2-1/2 weeks between your crop and mine. It sounds like if i used a different strain i could take a week off for that, and you would only be a week and a half ahead of me. Now if i am waiting 5 to7 days longer at the end because i like to see 50% amber and you pick them at say 10% there goes another 3-5 days and now i'm getting closer to the majic # .Sounds like if i just run c-4 and harvest weaker plants i might be able to do it, but i would like your input.
 

sixstring2112

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put your money where your mouth is, and do a run of the strain, its cheap, less than 50 for a pack. find out for yourself.
those that can, do. those that cant, well, im sure you've heard the saying. im not here to argue nor take sides.
what type are you?
all i did was show how it IS done, without even having to depend on clones and hydroponics, and yet all i get is criticism because i mixed my soil with a tad too much bloodmeal.

nice
Iamstoned, you dont need to bother with skunk, we all know you know your shit.him and home alone boy are just bored and cant get high off the regs they grow so they just sit here blowing up this thread.you da man.
 

thalboy

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Which grow diary for Iam5stoned shows a successful 42 day 12/12 from seed harvest? I looked through one of of his journals and saw 12/12 from seed but it wasn't done anywhere close to 42 days. I have done 12/12 from seed before, for multiple indica dominant strains, and haven't seen anything that short.

I just want to see the process from start to finish.
 

Rocky Mountain High

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Damn RMH, why you hell bent on jumping my ass? Thought we were all chill bro. I've been cordial and kind to you in PM's and don't get this. You don't get qualified as an expert in cannabis cultivation in the cort system if you don't know your shit. They frickin attack you on the stand dude. Could you cut the muster? I'm still the only person in our state to testify as an expert. I'll put my competency against yours any day my friend, how long you been at this again? How about chilling out?
Prof, this is not directed at you, do you see the quote? Do you see who it is from? I don't give a shit about your 'qualifications', heard them till my ears hurt. At least get a clue, everyone is not out to get you. An apology would be in order?
 

ganjaluvr

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Prof, this is not directed at you, do you see the quote? Do you see who it is from? I don't give a shit about your 'qualifications', heard them till my ears hurt. At least get a clue, everyone is not out to get you. An apology would be in order?
LMAO.. nicely put Rocky! nice..

Don't you just love some of these people that come around here.. acting like they know it all?? LOL.. it cracks me up.

anyhow, I like the KC Brains Mango & Jacks Classic.. just beautiful!! well done my friend.. well done. ;)

peace.
 
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