Produce weed in 43 days

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StaySmokin206

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I think we should start threads talking shit about Jorge Cervantes and Mel Frank and others and see if they show up to the site, and once we have them on the line, we will reel them into the RIU family reaaal smoothly. Lol bongsmilie

And Iam5toned, I am glad to see you like a Smooth, Rich, Mellow, cigarette :D
 
skunkushybrid01

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IAm5toned said:
they actually veg on there own for about 3-4 weeks regardless of light scheduling.
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But you just said:

IAm5toned said:
I 12/12 from seed, SOG, and run an average of 42-49 days, in 12 oz, 6" pots from start to finish.
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you don't run an average of 42-49 days. You've got to add a further 21-28 days veg' to that. What's the point in placing them straight to 12/12 if they take 3-4 weeks veg anyway? You have nutrient management problems too.

Of course increasing the light schedule will make for tighter nodes... it's the dark that causes stretch. if you're going to veg them at all you might as well do it on 24/0, less elongation, more division.


The only reason i'm doing this now is because i recently force-flowered some seed plants and they flowered far faster than usual... and i remember once a guy talking about how heat is a form of light and that a plant may be able to photosynthesise (to a degree) with it. Cannabis doesn't need 12 hours dark to flower, many will flower on 14/10, so maybe even after the lights go down cannabis can still photosythesise for a while using heat.

anyway, i'm going to see soon enough whether the warmer nights has an effect on flowering.
 
automon

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+1 for the Prof.
If there is one thing i cannot stand, it's those f* haters (to speak in Dave Wardens terms).

To anyone: if you grow only for cash and dealin', you are forever excluded from the cannabis connaisseur society.
 
Rocky Mountain High

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automon said:
+1 for the Prof.
If there is one thing i cannot stand, it's those f* haters (to speak in Dave Wardens terms).

To anyone: if you grow only for cash and dealin', you are forever excluded from the cannabis connaisseur society.
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It's bullshit because who are YOU to pass judgement over anyone else growing? Lame
 
IAm5toned

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skunkushybrid01 said:
But you just said:



you don't run an average of 42-49 days. You've got to add a further 21-28 days veg' to that. What's the point in placing them straight to 12/12 if they take 3-4 weeks veg anyway? You have nutrient management problems too.

Of course increasing the light schedule will make for tighter nodes... it's the dark that causes stretch. if you're going to veg them at all you might as well do it on 24/0, less elongation, more division.


The only reason i'm doing this now is because i recently force-flowered some seed plants and they flowered far faster than usual... and i remember once a guy talking about how heat is a form of light and that a plant may be able to photosynthesise (to a degree) with it. Cannabis doesn't need 12 hours dark to flower, many will flower on 14/10, so maybe even after the lights go down cannabis can still photosythesise for a while using heat.

anyway, i'm going to see soon enough whether the warmer nights has an effect on flowering.
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apparently you have problems reading and comprehending english.
i run 42-49 days, regardless of light schedule. when i said i run 42-49 days, i meant day 1 being as the day i soaked the seed, and day 42-49, the days they are cut. its pretty simple, its not rocket science.... day 1= seed soaking. days 42-49= harvest. i could do nothing but run 12/12, and do just fine, however i found that it is to my advantage to run 18/6 the first 3 weeks, the shortened node lengths are nice, but the true benefit comes from root mass.... i dont care if your running autos, sativas, or indicas, if you start form seed, the first 3-4 weeks the plant will veg, regardless of light schedule. in fact, you could run 4 hours of light, and 20 hours of darkness during that period, and still have a plant that is in the veg stage when its done, itll just be the weakest, stretchiest looking plant you've seen.
i have no reason to lie, brag or boast, i have been growing using this unique style for only 18 months.
i have been growing since st elswhere was on the air.......

your words themselves show your ignorance.... heat is a form of radiant heat, that is, the photons are in the infrared wavelength, and do not have the proper PAR to even be 'seen' by the plant, nevermind actually sustain a photosynthetic reaction. If your looking to increase your potency, i would suggest using a MH or CMH to get more UVB to your sugar leaves, which will promote trichrome growth, for the last 2-3 weeks of flowering, but im sure with your mighty intellect and immeasurable experience you will only tell me I am wrong, and that HPS is the only lamp that should be used for flowering because of its 2200-2700k rating, which coincidentally matches the afternoon/evening spectrum of the autumn sun at tropical lattitudes, cannabis's native habitat.

i appreciate the input, as i like to say im openminded, but you sir, are a troll. all i did was post my method with pics showing how this technique is done, and here you are telling me how to run my grow, which has provided me with all the killer i can smoke, without your input, for quite some time now.
i do not have 'nute issues' the strain in the pic is The Pure, by flying dutchmen, which is a nute hog, and drops all its fans early into flowering, regardless of how well you dial in your op. its genetics.... however to give you the benefit of the doubt, i will say i did need more cal-mag, some buffering was in porder for that batch of soil; also my hotsoil is so 'hot', it tends to have a tendency to really drop the ph at the end of the cycle... but its ok, i stress my plants like that on purpose. yeah, on purpose....... but im not going to tell you why, only because I read most of this thread, about 60 pages, and found that you apparently like telling everyone they are wrong, and that there techniques dont work, and yours are better.

And while im still ranting, if you've never seen a 24 foot indica, than you've apparantly never seen a landrace of afghanis.... they grow to heights of 30' in the wild, in races that consist of thousands of plants, you can literally hide an entire troop of m1a1 abrams main battle tanks quiet easily inside on of those landraces, and you wouldnt see it from 20 feet away.

so keep preaching your nonsense dude, and crank up that heat to improve your grow. attitudes like yours is what keeps people from posting in the first place.



nuff said.

and in this thread, is one of my current projects.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/343338-biggest-hydroponic-system-youve-never.html

please dont assume im a noob again, its common courtesy.
 
ChemoBoy

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skunkushybrid01 said:
But you just said:



you don't run an average of 42-49 days. You've got to add a further 21-28 days veg' to that. What's the point in placing them straight to 12/12 if they take 3-4 weeks veg anyway? You have nutrient management problems too.

Of course increasing the light schedule will make for tighter nodes... it's the dark that causes stretch. if you're going to veg them at all you might as well do it on 24/0, less elongation, more division.


The only reason i'm doing this now is because i recently force-flowered some seed plants and they flowered far faster than usual... and i remember once a guy talking about how heat is a form of light and that a plant may be able to photosynthesise (to a degree) with it. Cannabis doesn't need 12 hours dark to flower, many will flower on 14/10, so maybe even after the lights go down cannabis can still photosythesise for a while using heat.

anyway, i'm going to see soon enough whether the warmer nights has an effect on flowering.
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I don't get why it has to be so friggin confrontational up here. Every post with ACTUAL experience detailed, especially with pictures, is like a goldmine for other growers IMHO. I wish more people would do that instead of dick measuring.
 
A

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Professor Marijuana said:
Hello to you too Green Sister, I take from your post that my responding to this was a bad thing. The Medical Marijuana/Recreational community is a funny thing to me. How dare I respond to a post regarding me? Shameful. Perhaps before sitting in judgement of others you should research a little bit about them. I suspect you didn"t in this case, so if I may I'd like to introduce myself.
As stated I have been cultivating this magical herb for 43 years now (I wonder your age), not just growing but studying it. I expect each grow to be better than the last. I am a MM patient in CO and was raided by the DEA in 2004 despite being legal. Simply because they disrespected I decided to fight them. Against all sound legal advice I took the fight to them, as a result I became the first person in U.S. history to have cannabis growing equipment returned by the federal government. The attorney (Rob Corry) handled my case pro-bono. Since then I have been qualified as an Litigation Certified Expert Witness in both marijuana cultivation and medical marijuana, every case I have done has been done pro-bono as payment back to my brothers and sisters who have the balls (sorry sisters) to stand up and fight. Several have been precedent setting as was mine. In the 43 years I have been growing I have NEVER sold a single gram of cannabis but rather given it to those less fortunate than I. I am a writer for two magazines, Cannabis Health News Magazine and post420 both of these I do unpaid. I have been asked to write the growing protocol for a national medical marijuana law, unpaid. Last month I was keynote speaker at the Sacred Herb Festival, as I will be at the Rocky Mountain Cannabis Convention and Wellness Expo and will speak at the worlds largest cannabis convention Hempfest Seattle all at my own expense. If you google my name you'll see a article titled "Professor Marijuana Overgrows Venue" where 200 people spent the day being educated about growing. Free? Nope $250 per head, my profit? $200. So my income? $1,200 a month disability and whatever I can earn consulting. I feel compelled to take the knowledge gained over nearly a half a century growing and sharing it with others. I've made every mistake you can make, so why should you? Fighting for whats right and compassion are just in my family blood. Point in Case, and fuel for your response:-) My Great,G,G,G,Grandfather John Sever was the first and longest serving Govonor of Tenesee, appointed by G Washington to the first Congressional Order. He was a soldier and a hemp farmer that lived to the age of 100. That's where the fight comes from. The compassion from my great Aunt who is Americas only Saint, Mother Cabrini. She helped heal with water that still flows from a spring 20 miles from the spot I grow cannabis to help heal. In my younger days I was a drummer doing session work, with many people. Pink Floyd, Elton John, Heart, Joe Cocker, etc etc. So there you go, nice to meet you.

Yes I can and do grow in 45 days, I produce up to 10 pounds of medical grade cannabis in a 30 square foot area, 8 crops a year, but then I've been doing it for 43 years. If you come to the RMCC I'll show you how.

The people of my generation let you all down, we turned into our parents, please forgive me. But instead of finding the bad in someone you have never met why don't we try and unite and put an end to this insanity called "reefer madness." Toss back a bone to those who are less fortunate it will come back to you, and DAMNIT vote for marijuana laws people.

Green Sister, forgive my outburst but the negetive side of this world drives me nuts. Once you get a name you become a target instead of a resource. If I can ever help www.professormarijuana.com. All of this was simply to plug my site:-) Much Love ProfMj
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My hat is off to you and you have my respect.
 
Rocky Mountain High

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IAm5toned said:
i do not have 'nute issues' the strain in the pic is The Pure, by flying dutchmen, which is a nute hog, and drops all its fans early into flowering, regardless of how well you dial in your op. its genetics....
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Really? If you are indeed dialed in, the plant wouldn't drop all it's fans early in flowering period. That's not genetics, that's 'nute issues' and you are obviously not dialed in. 'It's genetics', that's funny. Blame your incompetence on the plant, nice
 
one11

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Professor Marijuana said:
Hello to you too Green Sister, I take from your post that my responding to this was a bad thing. The Medical Marijuana/Recreational community is a funny thing to me. How dare I respond to a post regarding me? Shameful. Perhaps before sitting in judgement of others you should research a little bit about them. I suspect you didn"t in this case, so if I may I'd like to introduce myself.
As stated I have been cultivating this magical herb for 43 years now (I wonder your age), not just growing but studying it. I expect each grow to be better than the last. I am a MM patient in CO and was raided by the DEA in 2004 despite being legal. Simply because they disrespected I decided to fight them. Against all sound legal advice I took the fight to them, as a result I became the first person in U.S. history to have cannabis growing equipment returned by the federal government. The attorney (Rob Corry) handled my case pro-bono. Since then I have been qualified as an Litigation Certified Expert Witness in both marijuana cultivation and medical marijuana, every case I have done has been done pro-bono as payment back to my brothers and sisters who have the balls (sorry sisters) to stand up and fight. Several have been precedent setting as was mine. In the 43 years I have been growing I have NEVER sold a single gram of cannabis but rather given it to those less fortunate than I. I am a writer for two magazines, Cannabis Health News Magazine and post420 both of these I do unpaid. I have been asked to write the growing protocol for a national medical marijuana law, unpaid. Last month I was keynote speaker at the Sacred Herb Festival, as I will be at the Rocky Mountain Cannabis Convention and Wellness Expo and will speak at the worlds largest cannabis convention Hempfest Seattle all at my own expense. If you google my name you'll see a article titled "Professor Marijuana Overgrows Venue" where 200 people spent the day being educated about growing. Free? Nope $250 per head, my profit? $200. So my income? $1,200 a month disability and whatever I can earn consulting. I feel compelled to take the knowledge gained over nearly a half a century growing and sharing it with others. I've made every mistake you can make, so why should you? Fighting for whats right and compassion are just in my family blood. Point in Case, and fuel for your response:-) My Great,G,G,G,Grandfather John Sever was the first and longest serving Govonor of Tenesee, appointed by G Washington to the first Congressional Order. He was a soldier and a hemp farmer that lived to the age of 100. That's where the fight comes from. The compassion from my great Aunt who is Americas only Saint, Mother Cabrini. She helped heal with water that still flows from a spring 20 miles from the spot I grow cannabis to help heal. In my younger days I was a drummer doing session work, with many people. Pink Floyd, Elton John, Heart, Joe Cocker, etc etc. So there you go, nice to meet you.

Yes I can and do grow in 45 days, I produce up to 10 pounds of medical grade cannabis in a 30 square foot area, 8 crops a year, but then I've been doing it for 43 years. If you come to the RMCC I'll show you how.

The people of my generation let you all down, we turned into our parents, please forgive me. But instead of finding the bad in someone you have never met why don't we try and unite and put an end to this insanity called "reefer madness." Toss back a bone to those who are less fortunate it will come back to you, and DAMNIT vote for marijuana laws people.

Green Sister, forgive my outburst but the negetive side of this world drives me nuts. Once you get a name you become a target instead of a resource. If I can ever help www.professormarijuana.com. All of this was simply to plug my site:-) Much Love ProfMj
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douche. . .....................
 
skunkushybrid01

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IAm5toned said:
apparently you have problems reading and comprehending english.
i run 42-49 days, regardless of light schedule. when i said i run 42-49 days, i meant day 1 being as the day i soaked the seed, and day 42-49, the days they are cut. its pretty simple, its not rocket science.... day 1= seed soaking. days 42-49= harvest. i could do nothing but run 12/12, and do just fine.
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so you germinate a seed and 42 days later you harvest. you claim the plants veg (whilst still on 12/12) for 3 weeks before flowering. that's 21 days veg, leaving just 21 days to flower. then you say you veg them on 18/6 for 3 weeks.

I'm only asking you simple questions, there's no need to get your knickers in a twist. you're not making any sense.

wtf has a 24ft indica got to do with it? i actually said that an indica won't stretch 24 times it's height in flower.
 
SmokesLikeBob

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skunkushybrid01 said:
so you germinate a seed and 42 days later you harvest. you claim the plants veg (whilst still on 12/12) for 3 weeks before flowering. that's 21 days veg, leaving just 21 days to flower. then you say you veg them on 18/6 for 3 weeks.

I'm only asking you simple questions, there's no need to get your knickers in a twist. you're not making any sense.

wtf has a 24ft indica got to do with it? i actually said that an indica won't stretch 24 times it's height in flower.
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It just doesn't seem to add up...but I guess anything is possible these days...
 
Professor Marijuana

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Hello Skunk, I actually don't add an extra 20-30 days of vegging to my grow. It really is a pretty simple concept regardless of the length of the grow. Here we go folks, obviously I am opperating in a hydroponic system, regardless of the hydro system you can do the same if your system will support the plant count. There isn't anything magic about growing in the time I've stated as long as the strain agrees. It has everything to do with strain, style of growing and techniques can speed things up a bit but the strain will dictate the grow time needed. I have worked with several that will flower in that time. The same technique can be used with a longer flowering strain with outstanding results.
I'm sure I don't need to say that a Mother plant must be maintained, and a small area for cloning too. When running a standard grow facility we grow strains that fall within the same time frame, we may have several strains but all that require the same flower time. Typically I'll clone 15 days before our projected start day. This allows for a good root structure to develope and a few days to harden the clones off to transition from the T-5's to HID lights well as, a 36 hour dark period before putting in the hydro system. Typically the clones are about 3 inches tall when flowering starts. I give them a good root excellerator and they're off. When a new grow facility is brought on line we will plan on starting each system a week apart thus harvest a week apart.

I don't veg because the plants get out of hand and the increase in yield isn't worth the time/work. I will be bringing a commoercial grow online in CO Springs in the next couple weeks that I'm going to post for all those who say it can't be done. I'll start a new thread and we'll see if I'm full of shit or not. Any specific questions are welcome.
skunkushybrid01 said:
But you just said:



you don't run an average of 42-49 days. You've got to add a further 21-28 days veg' to that. What's the point in placing them straight to 12/12 if they take 3-4 weeks veg anyway? You have nutrient management problems too.

Of course increasing the light schedule will make for tighter nodes... it's the dark that causes stretch. if you're going to veg them at all you might as well do it on 24/0, less elongation, more division.


The only reason i'm doing this now is because i recently force-flowered some seed plants and they flowered far faster than usual... and i remember once a guy talking about how heat is a form of light and that a plant may be able to photosynthesise (to a degree) with it. Cannabis doesn't need 12 hours dark to flower, many will flower on 14/10, so maybe even after the lights go down cannabis can still photosythesise for a while using heat.

anyway, i'm going to see soon enough whether the warmer nights has an effect on flowering.
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Professor Marijuana

Professor Marijuana

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Hope that last post clears things up. Certainly can't start from seed and harvest in that time frame, I'm working on it. You need a Mom and then clone. I'm talking about clone to harvest. NO VEG, waste of time in my books. when taking total yield over the course of a year I come out way ahead when I don't VEG.

skunkushybrid01 said:
so you germinate a seed and 42 days later you harvest. you claim the plants veg (whilst still on 12/12) for 3 weeks before flowering. that's 21 days veg, leaving just 21 days to flower. then you say you veg them on 18/6 for 3 weeks.

I'm only asking you simple questions, there's no need to get your knickers in a twist. you're not making any sense.

wtf has a 24ft indica got to do with it? i actually said that an indica won't stretch 24 times it's height in flower.
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