Not Happy With yield please help!!!

[cannakis]

Dialing in things like when and how much to water, and when and how much to feed, is something that will come with experience. After a lot of trial and error, you'll settle into a schedule that works for you and your plants. One thing off the bat that I noticed, and it was mentioned before, go with bigger pots. 3-5 gallons as suggested. Get 5 gallon buckets and go with 3 gallons of soil which should give our plants some room to stretch. Post some pics of your plants as that will help determine if you're doing something wrong. I also think your temps are kind cool. I run at about 80-85* which allows the plants to transpire and drink what I'm feeding them.

EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID! i LOVE how you said, 5 Gallon Buckets with ONLY 3 Gallons of Soil! SO SIMPLE yet i NEVER would have guessed that. thanks brother.

 

[cannakis]

ok my light is turning on soon...Ill get pics.... Im gonna go pick up some 5 gal squares tomorrow. Do you think the pots will make a significant difference, I was also considering switching to ebb and flow instead of getting bigger containers.

yeah i think that it will make a HUGE difference. because you have to think, the only way the girl grows is if it has roots, and there will come a point where the girl can not dig deeper and find more ground so she is stuck and eventually winds up using every little piece of available space. and to be honest--which again i do not necessarily know this for sure, but i would guess that--but i would bet money that when the girl begins to bud/bloom/flower it will need to and will develop NEW roots and stronger thicker ones and even make the older ones grow too... so that could have been your problem, there just wasn't enough room to grow and especially once you started budding them. but again i don't know shit!

 

[cannakis]

For indoors, 2 gallons is small and 5 is big. Also, why would you get a 5 gallon pot and only fill it with 3 gallons of soil? If your plants are only going to go 3 months from start to finish, you don't need more than 3 gallons. You'll save space using 3 instead of 5 gallons with 3 gallons of soil.

Like mentioned above, focus on your roots....big strong roots down there will give you bigger results up there. Your problem is also your nutes...if you're using nothing but fox farms 3 pack, that's not enough. Also, a single 1000 in a 9 x 9 room is pretty weak...Your plants will grow as good as your most limiting factor. If you're worried about electricity consumption and that sort of stuff, look into trading your single 1000 with (2) 600's. You'll get 1,200 watts in that room using just about the same ampage plus you'll have 2 light point sources. Not to mention all of your lights will be a lot closer to the light source.

One thing you could do with the different size plants, is put the small ones in the middle and surround them with the taller ones. Just rotate the taller ones a quarter turn every few days.....

Hope this helps and good luck

hahahaha i'm so glad you said this, because it completely clicked within my idiotic stupid slow brain; after taking a rip too, and i read this it made sense: why would i put 3 gallons of soil in a 5 gallon pot? there will still be 2 gallons left over of empty space. damn i'm retarded. thanks OZUT.

 

[TearDrop]

The PPM on the foxfarm nutes is super high... I would try something else with less filler

 

[cannakis]

that lemon skunk looks bad ass, ya the reason your not happy with your yield is because the distance between the light and your plants . but i guess you dont really have a choice those sativas are growing tall.

YES SIR! i was JUST thinking that after seeing those pictures. and you DEFINITELY NEED to change all the pots out... they look so small for something that is striving to be so big. your girls look great, don't get me wrong, but the reason they are all wispy and lengthy is because of EXACTLY what brickedup JUST said about the distance of the lights and everyone else has been saying about the pots. you got to think... just because that light may produce 100,000 lumens doesn't mean it's exactly 100,000 lumens at every point within that area.

 

[cannakis]

The PPM on the foxfarm nutes is super high... I would try something else with less filler

what is it at?

 

[cannakis]

The PPM on the foxfarm nutes is super high... I would try something else with less filler

check out this -- http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf

 

[OZUT]

A 3 and a 5 gallon pot have the same footprint and it also gives you the flexibility to add more soil if needed, like for a mother plant.

I use grow bags and the 5 gallons are wider than the 3 gallons....the extra 2 gallons isn't just stacked on top of the 3 to make 5. Maybe the pots you use are....Also, how does adding soil on top of the old soil solve your root bound problem? If you're root bound, you transplant into a bigger pot with the new soil on the bottom, not on top. If you're talking about a mother plant where continues watering could lower the soil level, I could understand adding a little bit more soil on top but again that doesn't make sense because you don't need to add 2 gallons worth.

 

[researchkitty]

The pots are fine. The problem is 24 plants under 1 light can only do so much. If you had 12 plants under the one light instead of 24, your yield will be the same per light, but go up per plant. Make sense?

 

[cannakis]

The pots are fine. The problem is 24 plants under 1 light can only do so much. If you had 12 plants under the one light instead of 24, your yield will be the same per light, but go up per plant. Make sense?

EXACTLY! what you said is exactly right researchkitty. reputation. cheers.

 

[OZUT]

The pots are fine. The problem is 24 plants under 1 light can only do so much. If you had 12 plants under the one light instead of 24, your yield will be the same per light, but go up per plant. Make sense?

That's why I suggested exchanging the single 1,000 with (2) 600's....He'll get 200 watts more, 2 light point sources and lumens received will be enormously more.....all the while he'll use an extra amp or 2

 

[homebrewer]

I use grow bags and the 5 gallons are wider than the 3 gallons....the extra 2 gallons isn't just stacked on top of the 3 to make 5. Maybe the pots you use are....Also, how does adding soil on top of the old soil solve your root bound problem? If you're root bound, you transplant into a bigger pot with the new soil on the bottom, not on top. If you're talking about a mother plant where continues watering could lower the soil level, I could understand adding a little bit more soil on top but again that doesn't make sense because you don't need to add 2 gallons worth.

Who said anything about putting soil on top? I think my original statement was pretty clear.

 

[OZUT]

A 3 and a 5 gallon pot have the same footprint and it also gives you the flexibility to add more soil if needed, like for a mother plant.

I don't usually argue on these boards, because to each his own, but it's pretty hard to misunderstand what you wrote...this dude's looking for advice and yours needed some additional information

 

[johnnycash]

Pots will have a huge play in how big your root systems get the bigger the system bigger the plant yield. Try adding a few weeks on the veg. Really try to root bound them in a small pot then move to your flowering pot 3 gallon plus. Recommend 5 for best yield. Or smart pot 3
http://gthydroponic.com/shop/gt/pots-containers/smart-pot/

 

[brickedup417]

the bigger the root,tha bigger the fruit

 

[OZUT]

Smart pots are the shit man...your roots get air pruned and by the time you're done with the grow you end up with just a massive root system...Invest in Root Excelurator....it's like $70 but super concentrated...you use like .3 ml per liter which comes to 1.2 ml per gallon...It's one of the single best items you can add to your nutrient line

 

[iscrog4food]

Yeah in a 9x9 you need 2 1000's. On average a 1000 is good for a 4x4. Also keeping the light so far from the indicas will reduce yield. I use 5 gallon homer buckets from the depot and i put about 5 cm of hydroton in the bottom to keep from overwatering and to filter runoff before i catch it. So total soil volume is a bit over 3 gallon. Hope this helps

 

[Murfy]

in a 9x9 you need 4 1000's, if one covers 4x4-

 

[po'thead]

I'm pretty sure no one has mentioned this, but you should definitely switch to a horizontal reflector. This will increase the amount of light your plants receive by something like 40%.

 

[jpknowmad]

just go read some posts by uncle ben