I honestly have to say I never seen a forum with as many haters as RIU. If they would just state their opinion or experience like a normal person it wouldn't be that bad but people here proceed to start bashing seed companies based on very limited experiences with their gear. It amazes me how ignorant people can be, like when someone grows out one pack of seeds and and is pissed they didn't find the holy grail of cannabis. Are people really that stupid? I hope not but from what I've seen here I'm starting to think they might be. I miss the old days of Overgrow, Reefermans forum, and Breedbay before Sub left and everone decided to start acting like children when you could get accurate information minus 90% of the arguing, crying, and bitching.