In need of some good advice about my soil and utes

[Tripper420]

Okay, i just transplanted my two plants into some new father doms organic soil. I was using MG but soon realized it was killing my plants. So i switched, transplanted and gave them plaenty of water with their first dose of FF grow big 6-4-4. Until now, my plants had not been getting any nutes except for some organic shit from lowes and the nutes from the terrible MG.

Im going to run a few weeks with grow big, steadily but slowly increasing my nutes to full strength.

QUESTION....WHAT EXACTLY IS FULL STRENGTH? my bottle says 1tsp per gallon of water. and im going to nute every watering. but how much is full strength if not the recommended 1tsp. or is the 1tsp per gallon already full strength?

I also bought FF Happy Frog Flower and Vegetable Organic fertilizer. Its 5-8-4. The directions say to apply 1/2 cup to soil each month. Is this correct or am i missing something? That seems like a very little amount for a whole month of waterings?

Plesse any info, suggestions, ideas are much appreciated.

 

[CrazyBudz]

full str is 1 tsp per gal if thats what the bottle says......i dunno anything about that other fert...but if i were using it and the directions say 1/2 cup per month id start with 1/8th of a cup after a few days if things look good give it another 1/8th..because if it says 1/2 cup a month what if you have a half gal pot compared to a 5 gal pot theres a grey area there......

just remember more isnt always better, it only takes too much 1 time to kill ur plants..!

 

[CrazyBudz]

oh and i would nute every other day...nute one day, just water the next ect ect....but thats just me!!

 

[Tripper420]

oh and i would nute every other day...nute one day, just water the next ect ect....but thats just me!!

thanks for the advice. that does make sense. wow, i must be really stupid or stoned. probably stupid from being blazed. but kudos and good lookin out. +rep for you

 

[CrazyBudz]

haha..no worrys bro

 

[Tripper420]

How touchy nutrient wise I mean is bagseed? Like just meexi brick seed bro. And when transplanting, how much shock is there if done quickly and mostly careful?

 

[madodah]

Okay, i just transplanted my two plants into some new father doms organic soil. I was using MG but soon realized it was killing my plants. So i switched, transplanted and gave them plaenty of water with their first dose of FF grow big 6-4-4. Until now, my plants had not been getting any nutes except for some organic shit from lowes and the nutes from the terrible MG.

Im going to run a few weeks with grow big, steadily but slowly increasing my nutes to full strength.

FF Grow Big is not organic. You're clogging up your new soil with salts and killing what microbe life it might have.

QUESTION....WHAT EXACTLY IS FULL STRENGTH? my bottle says 1tsp per gallon of water. and im going to nute every watering. but how much is full strength if not the recommended 1tsp. or is the 1tsp per gallon already full strength?

I also bought FF Happy Frog Flower and Vegetable Organic fertilizer. Its 5-8-4. The directions say to apply 1/2 cup to soil each month. Is this correct or am i missing something? That seems like a very little amount for a whole month of waterings?

Plesse any info, suggestions, ideas are much appreciated.

 

[303]

FF Grow Big is not organic. You're clogging up your new soil with salts and killing what microbe life it might have.

When transplanting seedlings I recommend against any sort of fertilizer. I do HIGHLY recommend a full dose of Superthrive found at any grow store. I swear by it when it comes to transplants. Don't give your plants full dose of FF. I use the same stuff, I go 1/4 strength every other feed, and certainly not right after transplanting seedlings. Wait until they're second to third week before you start they're nutrients. I'd use the trio pack (FF Grow Big, FF Tiger Bloom, FF Big Bud) 1/4 strength and use they're chart. If you give them Full Strength of nutrients you will burn and kill them more than likely depending on your strain. The nutrients in your soil are plentiful for your run, I've given some of my runs no nutes just ph'd water, the enriched soil did its job and I had excellent results...

 

[madodah]

When transplanting seedlings I recommend against any sort of fertilizer. I do HIGHLY recommend a full dose of Superthrive found at any grow store. I swear by it when it comes to transplants. Don't give your plants full dose of FF. I use the same stuff, I go 1/4 strength every other feed, and certainly not right after transplanting seedlings. Wait until they're second to third week before you start they're nutrients. I'd use the trio pack (FF Grow Big, FF Tiger Bloom, FF Big Bud) 1/4 strength and use they're chart. If you give them Full Strength of nutrients you will burn and kill them more than likely depending on your strain. The nutrients in your soil are plentiful for your run, I've given some of my runs no nutes just ph'd water, the enriched soil did its job and I had excellent results...

Just my curiosity, but why would you be recommending Fox Farms chemical supplements in an organic forum? To say nothing of Superthrive, which contains the pesticide Naphthylacetic Acid (NAA) and is banned from being sold in Oregon.

 

[canefan]

Just my curiosity, but why would you be recommending Fox Farms chemical supplements in an organic forum? To say nothing of Superthrive, which contains the pesticide Naphthylacetic Acid (NAA) and is banned from being sold in Oregon.

I have to disagree with you Madodah, usually we are pretty close in our views. I think you need to do some more research or either I do but here is just a little bit of info on 1- Naphthylactic Acid (NAA). It is a organic compound and it is used in commercial applications of to promote root growth, not an insecticide. I have looked everywhere to find it used as an insecticide and cannot find this application for it. As to why it is banned in Oregon I don't have a clue but many states have funny laws in regards to organic and inorganic substances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
http://www.plant-hormones.info/auxins.htm
There are many many other sources available on this subject just google it and look over the info, but I would like to know your source of info so that I am do further research myself. Always ready to learn new things.
Happy Growing to all

 

[madodah]

I have to disagree with you Madodah, usually we are pretty close in our views. I think you need to do some more research or either I do but here is just a little bit of info on 1- Naphthylactic Acid (NAA). It is a organic compound and it is used in commercial applications of to promote root growth, not an insecticide. I have looked everywhere to find it used as an insecticide and cannot find this application for it. As to why it is banned in Oregon I don't have a clue but many states have funny laws in regards to organic and inorganic substances.

It is classified as a fungicide. Source. Organic and inorganic compound definitions containing carbon are somewhat arbitrary, but I won't argue that with you. To me it's a fungicide, commonly referred to as pesticide in layman terms, widely used in agriculture to override natural root development by cell splitting and in my opinion that's Monsanto country. The exclusion of that classification on product labeling is the reason for its ban in Oregon.

There's no controversy about Fox Farms soluble nutrient supplements. Only one of the 'trio' is considered organic; the other two being salt based which destroy grow medium microbe colonies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
http://www.plant-hormones.info/auxins.htm
There are many many other sources available on this subject just google it and look over the info, but I would like to know your source of info so that I am do further research myself. Always ready to learn new things.
Happy Growing to all

 

[canefan]

It is classified as a fungicide. Source. Organic and inorganic compound definitions containing carbon are somewhat arbitrary, but I won't argue that with you. To me it's a fungicide, commonly referred to as pesticide in layman terms, widely used in agriculture to override natural root development by cell splitting and in my opinion that's Monsanto country. The exclusion of that classification on product labeling is the reason for its ban in Oregon.

There's no controversy about Fox Farms soluble nutrient supplements. Only one of the 'trio' is considered organic; the other two being salt based which destroy grow medium microbe colonies.

Thanks Mandodah I appreciate it.