desert dude
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Aw, what's a matter little guy, did you miss your nap? Is your diaper full?
Why Do People Keep Lying About Proposition 19?
- Thread starter DankAbbott
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veggiegardener
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Please explain that statement.
Will 18 year olds kill me for a bud?
I'm dead set against P19, but increased violence isn't likely, except by law enforcement.
TheAngryLiberal
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I was just seeing if anyone would think i was serious, but did you know that there really are people like that?
mccumcumber
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I would have believed you were serious if you sn was "TheAngryConservative."
desert dude
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There are a whole lot of conservatives who want pot legalized.
TheAngryLiberal
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yea but 99% of all people who want it illegal are conservatives
desert dude
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You mean like all the Democrats running for office in CA in 2010, and President Obama and Eric Holder? Those conservatives?
Wake up and smell the coffee folks, the Dems are just as bad as the Repubs on this.
rollinking420
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why not do it like cigs i smoke but i don't grow tobacco plants all year for a marlboro i got buy a pak same thing i would do if weed was legal it would open another cash crop for farmers and give the govt something else to tax plus construction workers would be needed to build marijuana factories and operators would be hired to run them so while i sit here unemployed in alabama which has a 11 per cent unemployment rate and smoked this high priced incense so i dont fail a drug test if i do get a chance to goto work i wonder all these things
rollinking420
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anyone who is in the goverment is against it because they have to satisfy the majority
Farfenugen
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Why even worry? I'm more concerned with the 2012 nutters and crazed terrorists running around cutting off heads or blowing themselves up because they're all hard up for a drink. Or my finances being drained because some greedy bankers decide to invest it all in speculations. With all this shit going on out there, it seems we're being force fed fear ideology. I for one, don't buy into it all, yet when I've had a bad day or merely want to open up my mind a bit, I'll ingest a natural green herb, just as people have for thousands of years, because it makes me feel better, I don't need anyone's permission, it's my body and no one's business except my own free will.
Or maybe I'll eat a ripe sweet tomato in which I grew. Or smell some fragrant flowers, or take a walk in the grass in barefoot. Or smile at my dog rolling around in the dirt. Or laugh at some foul-mouthed comedian telling rude and dirty jokes. Or make love to my wife in our bed, which is in our bedroom, behind closed doors. Or perhaps I'll toss the bible into the fireplace or disagree with a politician.
Free will. As long as it's not hurting anyone else. It's MY life. MY breath. MY blood pumping through MY veins. MY thoughts in MY brain. No one, no priest, no Mula, no cop or politician, no scientist or teacher, will tell me how to live MY own life. Or what I can and cannot consume or think or write about or feel.
Whether marijuana is deemed legal by the state or unlawful, doesn't change the fact that I will continue to use it as an elixer of feeling good or a cure for an ailment. I know what it provides me, and when to draw the line. Same goes for anything, just that I don't need a piece of paper regulating or shackling me in cuffs because I choose to ingest a substance into MY body.
In some states oral sex is illegal. How do they police that? In some countries a woman is stoned to death because she feels love for another. In some countries baby girls are killed because they were born the wrong sex. There is no fine line here. Incarcerating someone for using a natural substance is not far from chopping off a hand for taking an apple. We live in an out-dated world where nothing really has changed except for technology and fashion. Our society is built upon plenty of ideals but also many false ideologies. And we're ruled by an ever increasing power structure where rules seem to divide those who make rules and those who are ruled. Toss into that mix the guilt of shame and the guilt of being poor and you have a huge chasm right down the middle.
Time for a beer. Or a nice juicy steak. Or perhaps I'll stoke up the vapourizer and relax. Maybe I'll burp or get mad cow or burn my finger. MY choice.
Or maybe I'll eat a ripe sweet tomato in which I grew. Or smell some fragrant flowers, or take a walk in the grass in barefoot. Or smile at my dog rolling around in the dirt. Or laugh at some foul-mouthed comedian telling rude and dirty jokes. Or make love to my wife in our bed, which is in our bedroom, behind closed doors. Or perhaps I'll toss the bible into the fireplace or disagree with a politician.
Free will. As long as it's not hurting anyone else. It's MY life. MY breath. MY blood pumping through MY veins. MY thoughts in MY brain. No one, no priest, no Mula, no cop or politician, no scientist or teacher, will tell me how to live MY own life. Or what I can and cannot consume or think or write about or feel.
Whether marijuana is deemed legal by the state or unlawful, doesn't change the fact that I will continue to use it as an elixer of feeling good or a cure for an ailment. I know what it provides me, and when to draw the line. Same goes for anything, just that I don't need a piece of paper regulating or shackling me in cuffs because I choose to ingest a substance into MY body.
In some states oral sex is illegal. How do they police that? In some countries a woman is stoned to death because she feels love for another. In some countries baby girls are killed because they were born the wrong sex. There is no fine line here. Incarcerating someone for using a natural substance is not far from chopping off a hand for taking an apple. We live in an out-dated world where nothing really has changed except for technology and fashion. Our society is built upon plenty of ideals but also many false ideologies. And we're ruled by an ever increasing power structure where rules seem to divide those who make rules and those who are ruled. Toss into that mix the guilt of shame and the guilt of being poor and you have a huge chasm right down the middle.
Time for a beer. Or a nice juicy steak. Or perhaps I'll stoke up the vapourizer and relax. Maybe I'll burp or get mad cow or burn my finger. MY choice.
grizlbr
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Short of violence how do we the people change this? I email my reps and get a nice letter back. I know drunk driving kills people. But I for one would be broadcasting seeds just so people could occupy them selfs looking for free pot, who would buy if it were legal to grow for personal use?
My tomato table is only 3 by 4 feet. I can grow a lot of tomatoes hydro in 6 - 1 foot pots. What is the area of a 5 gal bucket?
My tomato table is only 3 by 4 feet. I can grow a lot of tomatoes hydro in 6 - 1 foot pots. What is the area of a 5 gal bucket?
DOPEYSstoned
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Id be willing to consider giving up practicly free bud if there was actully a good chance for me to get caught. But there is none, all the cops will do here is take it for themselves. (which means no ticket for me, no jail for me ect.)
We are a country full of people that has been doing things their own way scince our start. Something tells me we are going to continue without backing down to the federal government
We are a country full of people that has been doing things their own way scince our start. Something tells me we are going to continue without backing down to the federal government
DOPEYSstoned
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But who says the govt will actully put enough money into it to make it better than what we have now. And who says they wont use toxic chemiclas to make it produce more potent buds, or just more buds in general.
Harrekin
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I say legalise everything but teach people about it young.
I support freedom, and if someone wants to stick a needle in their arm and pump themself full of heroin knowing full well the consequences I say fire away, Im sure as fuck not going to, whether its legal or not.
If they get hooked and need treatment, I say give them the stuff for nothing, tuck them away somewhere and society is one better!
Its time to start weeding out the people with no common sense anyways, too many people in the world.
I support freedom, and if someone wants to stick a needle in their arm and pump themself full of heroin knowing full well the consequences I say fire away, Im sure as fuck not going to, whether its legal or not.
If they get hooked and need treatment, I say give them the stuff for nothing, tuck them away somewhere and society is one better!
Its time to start weeding out the people with no common sense anyways, too many people in the world.
0011StealTH
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I just wana get high.
there I said IT.
grizlbr
Active Member
If it is legal you grow what you want. Throw your skank seeds on the right of way to keep others away from yours. I just decided to keep my tomato clones over winter. Live and learn: 1 foot clones get way bigger quicker put out EARLY! Early Girl store bought 6' while seedlings are 5 '. Looking for a lot of fruit from the big plants. Keep it going until it stops producing. Bountiful (BIG) harvests everyone!
Slexdex
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You know i actually respected your point till you said that. To each their own. But then again you opposing this law, is saying to your own and the governments own. And what do you take for anything other than physical pain?
well when grown it puts nutrients back into the soil. There is a lot of science behind that, that I'm way too lazy to put up on here or go look for a quick link that you could do yourself. Also it alliviates stress. Stress is not good for you. Some people don't like to kick a soccer ball, go on a hike, ride a bike, read a book, punch someone. They like to take the easier way out and just smoke a joint. Sure that is the unhealthy part. Ill admit it, I'm lazy as shit when I smoke weed. But thats my choice and it should be my choice. How many automobile accidents are there when its only marijuana to play.
Honestly DankAbbott is right about all of this. The only way to win is to play the fucking game the government wants us to play. We have to let them control it. That is if the government is always gonna stay the way it has ALWAYS been. (which it could change, maybe) Either way yall are arguing about a plant that is illegal and shouldn't be if there are tons of other things that are way worse for you.
Also this thing about 20x the amount of ammonia and cyanide in marijuana over tobacco. How was the weed grown? What fertilizers were used? When was this sample taken; Veg, Flower? Sounds sketchy to me. Read the article and it seemed very incomplete.
Sorry Cali your prop didn't work. Oregon still has the best bud
