Controlled Environment Agriculture by Shrubs

Shrubs First

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Hey Shrubs.......

Explain how your going to get a pound and half per thousand watter every month?
Veging area seperate? If so for how long?

I like you work, i have been following in the background.
Thanks.......
I have 24 thousand watts in flower, with 90 clones vegging in a
seperate room at all times, once a month they move in to flower,
90 under 12kW. Once a month I harvest 90 plants. If I hit 3.2Oz
Per plant i get 18 pounds. That happens once a month, we'll be vegging
for four weeks.

So I'll have 180 plants flowering at all times with 90 coming down every month
and 90 more moving in.
 

Indefinately

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Hey Shrubs

Thanks for the info.......
So you think the canna Coco Nutes are the way to go ayyyy,
I have been using Coco with the the standard Classic canna nutes and havent had issues.
Whats the main difference?
The canna Coco series Nutes is one blend for both Veg and Flower right?

So from Clone to Veg to Flower what Size Pots do you Use?

How Many Plants do you keep under each 1000 Watter? Im Guessing about 7........

I have been doing a heap of work in my rooms but havent been posting since there is not that much interest in the thread.
I Spend allot of time reading threads like yours and getting valuable information. Thanks!
I have been improving the quality and Weight of the yields consistently with following what others are doing and say works.
Thanks for your help.....
 

Shrubs First

Well-Known Member
Hey Shrubs

Thanks for the info.......
So you think the canna Coco Nutes are the way to go ayyyy,
I have been using Coco with the the standard Classic canna nutes and havent had issues.
Whats the main difference?
The canna Coco series Nutes is one blend for both Veg and Flower right?

So from Clone to Veg to Flower what Size Pots do you Use?

How Many Plants do you keep under each 1000 Watter? Im Guessing about 7........

I have been doing a heap of work in my rooms but havent been posting since there is not that much interest in the thread.
I Spend allot of time reading threads like yours and getting valuable information. Thanks!
I have been improving the quality and Weight of the yields consistently with following what others are doing and say works.
Thanks for your help.....
Not only CANNA Coco nutes, but the CANNA brand Coco is the cleanest coco you can get.

On the bags of Coco you were using in your grows it said to expect an EC of .5 on there
That is a ton of salt already in the medium which need to be flushed out before use, or else
sodium build ups are common. CANNA coco is flushed before hand and is pH Buffered as long
as the coco is kept in balance in terms of it's element intake.

Coco has several tendencies. It holds a lot of potassium, and it doesn't hold calcium
very well. So this can pose some problems if the fertilizers don't have proper
proportions of nutrients which not only feed the plant but keep the coco balanced
and buffered. I had some problems in my early grows in coco when I was growin
using Humboldt Nutrients Master A+B line, I had the exact problems CANNA described
to me. Potassium toxicity causing calcium lockout and thats what made me switch.

But for real, you can't fix what isn't broken. Don't change what you're doing until
you're unsatisfied with performance.

Clones are taken in rockwool 1.5x1.5

Planted in to 5"x5"s, vegged for 4 weeks.

Transplanted in to 5 gallon Smart Pots, and moved in to flowering.

We'll have 15 plants in a 4x8, so plants will be arranged in a 3x5 array.
This is the most efficient way I could figure for the numbers, space and
light power I have been given to work with.
 

Shrubs First

Well-Known Member
Check it! We're getting closer and closer to finishing this whole application process

The City has our application on file. We were the 11th applicants.


And the state as well.
 

Indefinately

Well-Known Member
Thanks Shrubs,

Hope all your documentation goes thru without any major hassles.
Im actually using Floc currently.
I am having issues with the top going green which is alage im assuming.
I have to cover it up.
I will try Canna Coco & Coco Nutes in a few weeks and i will keep you updated.

Thanks.........
 

Shrubs First

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I'm not saying CANNA coco and nutes is the end all be all of fertilizers.

I do endorse their products, and I know they are high quality and derived from sound
sources.

Indefinitely, I'm not saying to switch to Coco, and canna nutes, I was suggesting -if you
happened to be using coco, which you were in the thread I read-, for you to switch to
Canna brand Coco, as it is the highest quality. If you are growing utilizing a different method
please keep at it.
 

Nick Fong

Member
Everything looks great! I wish I knew more about growing to really comment--but everything looks really professional and neat. I wish I wasn't in college so I could help out :P Appreciate the pics.
 

Indefinately

Well-Known Member
Hey Shrubs,

I have been growing using differenet mediums to see what works for me.
I want to try the canna coco and canna Nutes for coco, just to compare i guess.
I keep doing different things, just to keep it interesting.
I notice somewhere on RIU had an excert from a magazine that a guy was gowing in a sponge.......
So i have take 3 clones and am trying to root them in a sponge ( Something to laugh at i guess).

I have been putting a layer of rockwool at the bottom of the pot ( Underneath the COCO ) to stop the coco going everywhere when it floods and drains.
Do you do anything similar?
If Not - Do you find that there is allot of the coco particulate in your tray?

Im watching this grow very CLOSELY!
 

Shrubs First

Well-Known Member
Hey Shrubs,

I have been growing using differenet mediums to see what works for me.
I want to try the canna coco and canna Nutes for coco, just to compare i guess.
I keep doing different things, just to keep it interesting.
I notice somewhere on RIU had an excert from a magazine that a guy was gowing in a sponge.......
So i have take 3 clones and am trying to root them in a sponge ( Something to laugh at i guess).

I have been putting a layer of rockwool at the bottom of the pot ( Underneath the COCO ) to stop the coco going everywhere when it floods and drains.
Do you do anything similar?
If Not - Do you find that there is allot of the coco particulate in your tray?

Im watching this grow very CLOSELY!
Yes, in these plastic pots with holes, there can be quite a bit of particulate.

But it is easily wet-vacuumed out. This really only happens to us in Veg, because in
flower we use Smart Pots, which allow less matter through their fabric material.

I also top feed, rather than flood and drain. I use a pump and water-wand. Automatic
irrigation might be something I'm in to down the road, but right now I like spending
time with each plant. I spend 15 seconds with each of my 90 veggies every day, when
they become flowers, it will be 2 minutes per plant every day, plus 15 seconds per veggie,
plus time with mothers, and trimming on top of that. I'm just here to see if I am able to
keep up.
 

xivex

Active Member
Your grows are amazing bro...they inspire me. Its what I want when I move to Cali! :) Keep up the great work!
 

jesushadafender

Well-Known Member
Clones are looking great so the lineup will go:

Chem #4
Headband (mine)
Headband (yours)
Raskals OG Kush #5
Alien OG #1
Jackie-O

Sounds like some dank broski!
 

Shrubs First

Well-Known Member
[video=youtube;_C2AfkBozQc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C2AfkBozQc[/video]

A little vegetation video from today.
 

Shrubs First

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Fertilized 90 veggies today

5mL/G Coco A
5mL/G Coco B
5mL/G Rhizo
5mL/G Cannazyme
5mL/G Hygrozyme
2mL/G Mayan Micro
1tsp/G Great White

EC .9, pH 6.0, Temp 65F

I also performed the first prUning session, to clean up the lower growth.

I like to take a good look at each plant up and close. It helped a lot, i caught
several minute patches of mites which i quickly took care of. No more pests.

Here is a before and after for the average plant.





Not too much. Just enough to force a change in hormonal growth to the center of the
plant.

I only got to about half today. Took me 2 hours to do 45. And
I also trimmed a pound and a half of the Jackie O we harvested. Great nugs.
 
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