T5 vs. Hps

[Harrekin]

Im pretty jealous, my missus is only cool with one tent, Im gonna try see whats the biggest wattage light and other gizmos I can put in it when I get some money from this run (donations from friends obviously )...gonna try see how much I can do in a small area with all the modern bits and pieces.

 

[GodSlave]

Im pretty jealous, my missus is only cool with one tent, Im gonna try see whats the biggest wattage light and other gizmos I can put in it when I get some money from this run (donations from friends obviously )...gonna try see how much I can do in a small area with all the modern bits and pieces.

All of my equipment is packed into a 2x2x5.5ft area. I have room for 4 mama's, but currently only have 3 strains, Trainwreck, AK47 X Black Domina, Marzar. White Widow is the next to be added. I run 2 plants in flower, scrogged on roughly a 2x1.8' screen of chicken wire. With the added CO2, they fill the screen in about 2-3 weeks. A completely filled screen has about 100 buds/plants poking through. Each bud usually yields (depending on the strain) about a half oz, you do the math . Completely sealed, and Looks like a regular piece of furniture on my back deck.

 

[cowboylogic]

All of my equipment is packed into a 2x2x5.5ft area. I have room for 4 mama's, but currently only have 3 strains, Trainwreck, AK47 X Black Domina, Marzar. White Widow is the next to be added. Completely sealed, and Looks like a regular piece of furniture on my back deck.

And the truth comes out. Fluorescents and stealth! LOL Probaly the single biggest reason they are used for growing........I knew we would get to the bottom of it. Rock on........

 

[GodSlave]

And the truth comes out. Fluorescents and stealth! LOL Probaly the single biggest reason they are used for growing........I knew we would get to the bottom of it. Rock on........

Oh yeah, I said from the get go, my area was 2x2. I also said that fluro was not for every situation, but lended itself well to scrog or sog small time grows. BUT, if you take into consideration my harvest amounts, maybe not so small time lol. I put about $1100 into perfecting this system, and it works well. Some might say that is overkill, but my main objective was stealth, followed by perfect climate, and that equals great yields.

 

[Harrekin]

All of my equipment is packed into a 2x2x5.5ft area. I have room for 4 mama's, but currently only have 3 strains, Trainwreck, AK47 X Black Domina, Marzar. White Widow is the next to be added. I run 2 plants in flower, scrogged on roughly a 2x1.8' screen of chicken wire. With the added CO2, they fill the screen in about 2-3 weeks. A completely filled screen has about 100 buds/plants poking through. Each bud usually yields (depending on the strain) about a half oz, you do the math . Completely sealed, and Looks like a regular piece of furniture on my back deck.

So you produce 1.4kg a run under floros?! I dunno if you have 100 1/2 zip buds man, are you sure you did the maths right?

 

[cowboylogic]

So you produce 1.4kg a run under floros?! I dunno if you have 100 1/2 zip buds man, are you sure you did the maths right?

I missed that part. 100 1/2oz buds. The BS meter is beginning to register........rolls eyes........

 

[GodSlave]

Roll em all you want... makes no difference to me. I have a LOT of light in the flower chamber which is 2x1.8', so less than 4 sq ft with the added CO2. If you think about it, I have 20,400 lumens (and yes, I know the lumens added together controversy rages on) in less than a 4 sq ft area. All I know is It's so bright in there, I have to turn the 2 105w lights off when working because it gives me headaches. Plants in seedling and clone stage require about 400-500 lumens per square foot. In vegetative growth they require about 2,500 lumens per square foot and in flowering, they require about 10,000 lumens per square foot. 10k lumens per ft is what I have.
Oh yeah, and that was wet weights I mistakenly gave you, of course the dry weight is about half that.

 

[Harrekin]

You usually lose 75-80% of wet weight when drying. 400grams dry max at 800w (16x54w bulbs) of power with CO2?

EDIT: Sorry 864w of power.

 

[GodSlave]

Well, since we are talking fluro's, watts don't really count, So lumens is what you have to go with. I never lose 75-80% of weight, 50-60% is what I get.

 

[cowboylogic]

Gettin too deep for me, I'm outta here............Good call Harrekin

 

[GodSlave]

Really don't care who thinks what, I've been growing for almost a decade now and I have no reason to lie. Good grief, this thread was about hps vs T5 anyway. This is why I don't really get involved in discussions too much, there is always someone who wants to tell you you are wrong, EVEN THOUGH I am doing it year in and year out. I don't need to boast or brag about what I have or what I do, I get great pleasure growing my babies and sharing with my friends, they know and I know, that's all that matters to me.

 

[Harrekin]

Well, since we are talking fluro's, watts don't really count, So lumens is what you have to go with. I never lose 75-80% of weight, 50-60% is what I get.

Well then you must have some mystical method for drying or else everyone else is doing it wrong...care to share your mystical method?

EDIT: And how exactly do watts not count? I can grow nearly what you get with half the power (including fans running) and with no CO2.

 

[GodSlave]

No mystical anything. Dry till slightly crunchy on the outside, then in to paper bags, then into jars, then vac sealed in 1 oz packages, then returned to a humidor as I need them.
As I said, I don't need to prove anything to anyone, I was only sharing my experiences. Have you grown exactly as I am? If not, then how can you make insinuations that I am lying when you have no clue?

 

[GodSlave]

Well then you must have some mystical method for drying or else everyone else is doing it wrong...care to share your mystical method?

EDIT: And how exactly do watts not count? I can grow nearly what you get with half the power (including fans running) and with no CO2.

Watts don't count in CFL because the wattage draw is different vs output. 105 watts CFL is not the same as 105 watts HPS. They are producing more than 105 watts equivalently, so you cannot use your normal calculations for needed watts per sq ft. as with HPS. That is why the typical standard for light needed with fluro's is lumens.

 

[Harrekin]

Actually the typical standard is lux or lumens per square foot...but plants dont use lumens, lumens are what the human eye can see. And a 105w HPS will produce more light, more intensely than a 105w CFL...anyways Im tired of this, I think you've exaggerated your claims but either way nice grow and peace.

 

[GodSlave]

anyways Im tired of this, I think you've exaggerated your claims but either way nice grow and peace.

Ditto on that. Minus the exaggerated part, I have no reason to exaggerate, not trying to have the biggest dick. Like I said, me and the few friends who see my grow know, and that's all that matters to me.

 

[grow space]

I used 3 rack of t8 fluros, each bulb (2 bulbs in one rack ) 58 w, warm white, flowered 10 weeks, mixed din 6 clfs 26w, and one small hps of 70 w...I was very pleased with the result..White widow...

 

[dlively11]

1.4 KG wet weight sounds about right with every single stem and leaf still there. The others are correct though your actual dried weight is much much less not 50-60% 70% on a very good day if you keep all your big stems in there but. 75-80 is more like it. Doesnt sound like you really know exactly. Should do a controlled grow, dry etc and see what you are really doing for your own benifit. Pictures of your grow ? I can get up to 3 lbs on my 4X4 trays under a 1K bulb no CO2 dried cut,trimmed very well weight.

 

[phyzix]

The lumen is the SI derived unit of luminous flux, a measure of the power of light perceived by the human eye.

Plants don't really care what we see, believe it or not.

 

[DrFever]

I have 2 fixtures that hold a total of 16 bulbs rated at 5000 lumens a piece. Do the math that's 80000 lumens in a 4*4 area

i have one fixture doing 170,000 lumens in a 4 x 4 foot area as well i cross with another 170,000 lumin in between so makin it litterally 250,000 lumens per
If not more for a 3 x 3 foot area DO THE MATH now some people may not or cannot afford HPS but lets not beat around the bush you cant compare the to
By the time you finish flowering from start to finish with your T5's i will be already almost done my second harvest
Dude what i am saying is from 4" clones leaving T'5's and goin into Veg room 21 days i am litterally 18" tall and switching into flower yes dude thats how fast with T'5s u be if your lucky and i mean lucky 8 " tall

know with Xmass comin maybe ask your mom and dad for 1000 watt cause dude your still in diapers with T5's