My plants are messed up and i dont know what to do!!!!

[h2alo1]

I am please asking for assistance in correcting my plants problems. I have a speed devil auto flowering strain that was doing great until i noticed these copper colored spots all over the plant. I was thinking it was because i sprayed the plant with water and it burned it but i dont know. I have been following the fox farm feeding schedule except i cut the ingredients in half. I also have a kandy kush plant that i am having some trouble with. It is not autoflowering, so it is still in the vegetative state. The leaves on it are discoloring. I was thinking it was because i did not feed it yet and i need to but i am not sure. I mixed one part light warrior and one part original potting mix by fox farm. Am i right with my explanations? any help is greatly needed and appreciated. I am new to this. here are pictures

 

[Mother's Finest]

Start by checking the soil pH. Yes, you need to feed it.

 

[Mother's Finest]

Is all the yellowing in the second pic actually on the plant or is any of that from the lighting?

 

[h2alo1]

It is all green except for the spots and minor yellowing where the spots are. The leaves are kind of crispy. I am unsure about this speed devil. It was doing so good.

 

[h2alo1]

Could anybody please help?! I really need it and appreciate it.

 

[budsmoker247]

check the ph of your run off. looks like the same thing im going through. With mine, at first i thought it was leaf spot fungus so ive been spraying with fungicide but that wasn't helping. so then i tried to correct for calcium deficiency with some powdered egg shells by putting them under the top bit of the soil. for me i believe calcium was my problem cause the eggshells seemed to work for a couple days but then it started going deficient again. & td i still have a little bit of spots going on because i can't find cal-mag anywhere where im located

IMO: looks to be getting a little N deficient also.

 

[smallblock360]

check PH , looks like chemical burn, from fertilizer.

 

[Mother's Finest]

The brown crispy parts are likely from Phosphorus deficiency. There may also be some Ca def as Bud suggested. You should check the pH of the soil first and then feed them with a solution pH'd to correct the soil. Bone Meal works well for P & Ca, and you still need to give them Potassium for flower production.

 

[Dj1209]

One is those pictures looks like one from a thread that I was reading about ph fluctuation I'd look into it.

 

[budsmoker247]

The brown crispy parts are likely from Phosphorus deficiency. There may also be some Ca def as Bud suggested. You should check the pH of the soil first and then feed them with a solution pH'd to correct the soil. Bone Meal works well for P & Ca, and you still need to give them Potassium for flower production.

any idea how to give them the bone meal? do ya do it in a tea or just put it in the soil or what? ive been trying to find somethng to help out my prob too and about the only thing i CAN find around here is bone meal.

would this stuff be any good?


heres what it says about it:Granular

• Fish Bone Meal
• 6-12-0 formula
• For stimulating root growth
• Contains organic nitrogen and phosphorus, as well as phosporic acid, calcium and organic matter
• Low odour formula
• Higher nitrogen
• Granular fish bone meal
• Made from fresh fish by-products
• No association with bird flu or BSE
• For use in gardens, lawns, roses, trees, shrubs, evergreens, established plants, annuals and perennials and bulbs
• 1kg

 

[h2alo1]

Thanks for the help.

 

[h2alo1]

I am really confused now. I checked the ph of my soil and it was between 7 and 7.2 between all four pots. I then checked the ph of my distilled water i use and the ph was 5.6. I bought that from wal mart. I read something that water with more carbon dioxide or something causes the ph to rise when it combines with another element. I do not understand it at all. could someone please explain the process and how to fix it? I was thinking of using ph down from general hydroponics on the water? I was also thinking of getting cal mag for calcium deficiency? My speed devil is two and half weeks from harvest, so should I make an effort to fix the ph? My other plants are in veg. They are Dinafem white widow, dinafem skunk(Attitude xmas freebies offer), and reserva privada kandy kush. Every plant except the skunk is showing a calcium deficiency.

 

[Mother's Finest]

Careful. Most pH meters start at pH 7 when there's nothing to measure. When a meter gives a reading at 7, it should be checked using a different tester to make sure it's giving any reading at all. Keep in mind that most probe-type soil meters need the soil to be very moist, almost mud, in order to work.

Since you seem to have a liquid pH tester, we'd suggest testing the runoff to verify your meter's readings. When testing runoff, the last few drops of liquid should be tested. For example, if you water and some trickles out the bottom of the pot, wait until the trickle is almost stopped and is just dripping the last few drops before testing. This will help to give you the most accurate reading possible from your runoff.

 

[Mother's Finest]

It's true that fixing major problems right before harvest can cause issues but you still want to have a firm diagnosis before repeating the problem in the next grow.

Budsmoker- Fish Bone Meal is about the same as regular Bone Meal, just with more N. It's good stuff. Mix into the soil or add to tea recipes.

 

[h2alo1]

Mothers finest, You know your stuff!! you were right about the ph meter. Do soil test kits work? and how about ph test strips for water? I have to save up for better meters. I added hydrated lime the soil. 2 tsp for a 5 gal bucket. I made a mistake the freebies were dutch passion not dinafem.

 

[h2alo1]

could anybody help me?

 

[Mother's Finest]

The cheap capsule-type soil kits usually work well to verify your meter's results. We recently encountered a reputable store selling capsules that didn't work, though. But then, I think we've come across DOA versions of most types of pH testers. Test strips work alright for liquids and they can give an approximation of soil pH if presed into damp dirt or testing runoff. Good wideband pH drops that show a range of at least 5-9 are cheap and do a great job on liquids & runoff. When testing runoff, wait for the last few drops dripping out of the container or else squeeze liquid out of a handful of soil. The liquids that run out first after watering have been less affected by the soil's pH than the last of them dripping out. Test the water before the runoff so you know if the liquid didn't start at 7.

Sorry for not responding sooner. I saw your post and just flaked on getting back to it.

 

[h2alo1]

Thanks for the help. I went to the local hydroponics store and bought a ph test kit with the drops for the liquid. Do they make the drops for the soil to? My white widow is doing the worst now. All the leaves are affected now. It started from the bottom fan leaves up. Would a pic of that help? I am going to test the run off and post it as soon as i get it.

 

[Mother's Finest]

Drops only test liquids. To use drops to test soil, you have to test the runoff or liquid squeezed from wet soil as you already are planning. A new pic of the worst plant would definately help.

 

[h2alo1]

I am going to pass on the pic for right now because i think the ph was way to low. I tested my distilled water after i put the nutes in and it was below 4.5. i have the ph up and down from general hydroponics. I am going to adjust the water ph. I didn't get a chance to check the runoff, but i could just imagine what the ph is. I am leaning towards hydroponics eventually due to the increased time it takes for soil to change.