Well my 30 plus day old clone rooted last night i swear funny u should say that ...That lil fucker took forever and i do about 75 clones a month never ever saw shit like that....Almost 6 weeks .Told wife last night check this shit out a root .....yep im gonna clone that lil ice plant when i make it a mother just to see cause im always doing test and that may be one tough great producing mother... now u made your point ,heres mine....My family has a huge farm market with green houses loaded with seeds it takes hours to hand water with wond. By the age of 12 i watered these yes i hated it but i did .Well we only watered the top layer never soaked them. now i have soaked many small trays and i got my ass ripped by my grandfather so i learnt to look at plants and learn when they need to be fed. U got to know by looking at it and seeing the dirt not by picking up a container and knowing its weight..Sure its quick & accurate for the most part but u cant do that when your growing outdoors.. If u have a veg garden, u look at it and say well it needs water or damn that was alotta rain those plants are way to wet...You water your plants so they leach out cause u dont know how to read your plants like i do ....NOOB im not . Here im trying to get the guy to learn when his plants need water so when he see's his garden outside he can diagnose it like he would a sick plant .What u are teaching him to do is through causion to the wind and fuck learning the proper way of diagnosing your plants, but water the shit outta them cause its easier that way. If i over water ill just let them dry up...lmfao u still using your moisture meter? I was gonna end this but that last remark about my clone i needed to point out. I would ask for your opinion on that but no! i'm not saying u cant grow i saw your picks and there ok but calling someone a NOOB outta the blue just to be a dick is uncalled for!!! We are all here to learn .so far in the last month i picked up on willow bark, molasses,clonex never used it always used root tone powder ,oh my favorite the guy that made a desk into a grow cabnet lmao.... i dont need to i have enough room, but im now taking a chest and gonna convert into a 4 plant breeding chamber lol ...So im here to learn and not fight with u or anyone else... I hope the schooling i gave u was educational and goes to good use. I wish i would have read your journal from the start u know when u had your problems i would have scooled u then too ,u know just to help out the noobies...... GOOD LUCK IN YOUR GROWS ...AND MAY U HAVE MANY BUDS