More Freedom Loving Lefties On The March
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Serapis
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Thats the whole post, are we suppose to add something ourselves? What Context? it is what it is. You were pretty certain no one would find that in the Constitution, so you are using that as your argument that you do NOT have the right to eat what you see fit.
You seem to be the thinking sort, most in the politics section are, but your facts are wrong. When your facts are wrong (the Constitution gives us all our rights) then concede the point and move on, don't try to argue your side, it makes you look like someone with way less than 157 IQ.
You could just say " Well yeah, your right it doesn't give us our rights, but it does protect them and does remind us of what some of the more important ones are."
See? Easy.
You could just say " Well yeah, your right it doesn't give us our rights, but it does protect them and does remind us of what some of the more important ones are."
See? Easy.
Your idea is looney, not you.
The Cryptkeeper
Well-Known Member
How odd!
I had an IQ of 148 at 6 years old. Intelligence Quotients only have a value as a fluid intelligence forecast. They really don't provide any reliable information on a persons intelligence unless taken young, and regularly. 
Charlie Ventura
Active Member
The obesity problem in America has been caused by the federal government. Because sugar beet growers wanted to stifle foreign competition, they lobbied Congress to raise tariffs on imported sugar. This had the effect of raising the price of domestic sugar beyond profitability for our food processors. This includes candy and soda makers among many others. Sugars have been replaced by High Fructose Corn Syrups. HFCS is known to lower insulin levels in humans and reduce the "hunger satisfaction" level as well. Therefore, we have a type II diabetes and obesity problem. The bottom line is, we are suffering the unintended consequences of a federal government run amok. If you want to lose weight, start reading every label and eliminate High Fructose Corn Syrups from your and your children's diets. If you or they like to drink sodas, find a local Mexican market and buy the ones made in Mexico. They are made with real sugar.
has been caused by the federal government?? whaaaaa???
the obesity problem in America has been caused because America stopped eating right. we now sell ultra-processed foods mixed with chemically engineered who knows what...... it's cheaper to make, tastes good, and people pay more for them. look in the freezer aisle in the supermarket...
it's not the soda or the high fructose corn syrup alone....
we'd rather get a bag of chips, than a bag of vegetables at the supermarket.....
the obesity problem in America has been caused because America stopped eating right. we now sell ultra-processed foods mixed with chemically engineered who knows what...... it's cheaper to make, tastes good, and people pay more for them. look in the freezer aisle in the supermarket...
it's not the soda or the high fructose corn syrup alone....
we'd rather get a bag of chips, than a bag of vegetables at the supermarket.....
Leothwyn
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I hope you aren't suggesting that schools shouldn't be making a few extra bucks by peddling that stuff to kids... that's pinko commie libtard talk!
So it has nothing to do with foods that are bad for you , but the fact that people eat them. Another person who agrees with me.
Leothwyn
Well-Known Member
I'd agree that personal responsibility is the most important factor, but kids can't always be counted on to make the best choices... especially if adults around them are setting bad choices out in front of them.
Look, elementary schools could pick up a few extra bucks by putting arcade games out in the playgrounds. Sure, kids might choose to play video games instead of playing basketball, dodgeball, swinging, whatever, but it's all about personal choices, freedom, their right to play video games, right? If kids not getting enough exercise and eating too much junk food are problems, is it responsible for schools to encourage that shit just to make a little extra money? I don't think so.
canndo
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And how did the government cause the epidemic of heart disease evidently caused by trans fats? How about the percentage of fat in fast foods? Did the government mandate such percentages or did corporations discover that it is more likely that people will eat their products if they filled them with fats and salt?
canndo
Well-Known Member
Oh never mind that in may cases children don't even have a choice of healthy foods. The "fact that people eat them" has as much to do with marketing clout than anything else. People still believe they have "free choice", after all, corporations tell us that all the time. I see you aren't giving much credence to the power of marketing and advertising. You should, it is real.
jeff f
New Member
your argument is totally against your position.
THE CORPORATION IS THE SCHOOL.
parents cant give their kids a lunch. your kid is forced to eat what the corporation makes them. do you think school lunches are made from magic trees that produce magic food? even if you are parent of the year and pack a perfectly balanced diet, you cant let YOUR kid eat it.
you keep preaching this crap about the corporations making food available to kids to make them fat....HELLO, NUMBSKULL, your kid is forced to eat what the corporation MAKES them eat...shitty, unhealthy, mass produced, money making cafeteria food. school cafeteria food IS BIG BUSINESS DUMMIES.
you are a mental midget.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
I did not state that the Constitution gives us all of our rights. My remark about not finding the right to eat sugary foods in the Constitution was a direct response to your rant stating that kids had the right to eat and drink sugar.... the point i was making was, no, they do not have that right... mentioning the constitution was sarcasm, then you came in stating that the Constitution doesn't grant us any rights, which it certainly does, and you stated rights were not enumerated in the Constitution, and yes they are.... they are numbered I through X...... 10 of em, called The Bill of Rights... we didn't have the right to remain silent or prevent warrantless searches or having troops quartered in our homes, or the right to bear arms, until those rights were put on paper, as a guarantee that they will not be infringed.
Now you can keep playing word games and insist that it doesn't grant the rights, as they already existed, but I suggest they did not exist legally until ratified by the states. I'm not playing word games with you, like you are with me... Just go look it up on Wiki or look at the document which does indeed enumerate rights.
See? Easy
Now you can keep playing word games and insist that it doesn't grant the rights, as they already existed, but I suggest they did not exist legally until ratified by the states. I'm not playing word games with you, like you are with me... Just go look it up on Wiki or look at the document which does indeed enumerate rights.
See? Easy
BudMcLovin
Active Member
But people aren’t smart enough to make decision for their selves. They need government to tell them what to do. The sooner the rest of us poor blind fools that believe in personal freedom and responsibility figure that out the sooner the holier than thaw progressives can get on with making their utopia. They are the smart ones after all they have it all figured out. They’ll pay for it all with other people’s money.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
Um, what are you on about? People make their own decisions in life and they reap or suffer the consequences. No one believes that they need government to tell them what to do, that remark is just silly... You keeop throwing around the word "personal responsibility", so let me ask you something? You ever use a highway to get somewhere? How about cross a river on a bridge? Ever eat a school lunch? How about flown from point A to point B? Did you receive college loans or grants, did you even go to college? Do you use the internet?
A lot of conservatives and Tea Party activists do not stop to consider the ways in which the government makes their lives better. they consistently call for smaller government and imply that anyone needing government services is not "personally responsible". We all rely on our government, some just won't admit it....
A lot of conservatives and Tea Party activists do not stop to consider the ways in which the government makes their lives better. they consistently call for smaller government and imply that anyone needing government services is not "personally responsible". We all rely on our government, some just won't admit it....
jeff f
New Member
hey dude, who do you think supplies the food for your school? desani water, cysco chicken tenders (which contains no chicken), del monte green beans (grown in chile), breaded fish (fish flavored cardboard) who do you think makes that stuff?
do you think the cafeteria workers go down to your local farm on the way to work and pick up some fresh organic farm raised food and fix it with loving care for your toddler?
let me repeat YOU CANT PACK YOUR KIDS LUNCH. YOUR KID HAS TO EAT THIS GARBAGE MADE BY HUMONGOUS CORPORATIONS.
fucking dolts.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
If you feel the need to call others names, take that shit elsewhere.... if however you want to discuss differences and debates solutions like an adult, please stay and contribute to those ends... when you have to result to name calling, you have already lost the argument
Most of us have already disagreed with the banning of lunches from home. Where were you? And the fact that ingredients come from companies, has no merit in this discussion. School lunches, by law, are nutritionally balanced. some may not taste as good as food from home, but they are nutritional. Corporations aren't making school lunches, food service workers do, and the menu at some level is approved by a certified nutritionist. this doesn't give the school principal the right to ban home lunches. We have already stipulated that point.
Most of us have already disagreed with the banning of lunches from home. Where were you? And the fact that ingredients come from companies, has no merit in this discussion. School lunches, by law, are nutritionally balanced. some may not taste as good as food from home, but they are nutritional. Corporations aren't making school lunches, food service workers do, and the menu at some level is approved by a certified nutritionist. this doesn't give the school principal the right to ban home lunches. We have already stipulated that point.