Dr Greenthumbs G13

[OGMan]

That is just completely untrue.

Oh piss off...what qualifies you to make this statement?

 

[OGMan]

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These days I ONLY grow Greenthumb gear and there's a reason for that and it's called RELIABILITY. That's my opinion and I have grown many of Doc's strains. I just was over at MMMA where almost every strain of Doc's is journaled and eveyone is wowed by the quality and vigour of his strains, so suck it up flameboy. It is preposterous for Bricktop to suggest Greenthumb is a ripoff when he's been business for about 20 years and has so very many satisfied customers. It' s just a smear campagne started by DoubleD

Like I said 20 years in business and top rated by Seedbankupdates, so all your BS is meaningless and a waste of peoples time

You guys have no cred what so ever, so why waste our time?

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

Oh piss off...what qualifies you to make this statement?

There are a couple reasons I'm qualified to make these statements.
1. It's called "hybrid" vigor for a reason.
2. I've grown S1's that I've bought and I've grown S1's that I've made and I know how the offspring differ from the original parent.

I wonder if Greenthumb knows his spammers lack any knowledge of marijuana. I swear you guys crack me up with the things you try to state as fact. The only thing you can think to do is state that somewhat knowledgeable people don't have any credibility. Why don't you try backing up your arguments with facts and quit arguing like a 4 year old.

 

[OGMan]

You want facts. OK here are some indisputable facts;

1. Greenthumb has been in business for over 20 years.
2. Has been top rated at the Seedbankupdates for a decade or two.
3. Has been nominated for Top Ten Strains of the Year at High Times (Cindy 99)
4. Has been nominated for the Seedbank Hall of Fame at High Times
5. Has the endorsement of Jim Ortega (G13)
6. Tens of thousands of happy customers worldwide
7. Was the first to make S1 seeds of OG Kush, Bubba Kush, Chemdawg, Cindy 99, Trainwreck, East Coast Sour Diesel, Cheese and is the creator of Iranian Autoflower, Endless Sky, 747, Columbia Skies and others.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

You want facts. OK here are some indisputable facts;

Most of which don't really have any substance.

1. Greenthumb has been in business for over 20 years.

And yet you never see a lot of people actually growing his gear.

2. Has been top rated at the Seedbankupdates for a decade or two.

No one ever said he didn't sell seeds.

3. Has been nominated for Top Ten Strains of the Year at High Times (Cindy 99)

lol, A publication at which he is a paid advertiser.

4. Has been nominated for the Seedbank Hall of Fame at High Times

Again, he is a paid advertiser.

5. Has the endorsement of Jim Ortega (G13)

Which doesn't mean much seeing as it's very unlikely he has the pure G13 either.

6. Tens of thousands of happy customers worldwide

Which means what exactly? Gypsy has happy customers and he's also a less than reputable person.

7. Was the first to make S1 seeds of OG Kush, Bubba Kush, Chemdawg, Cindy 99, Trainwreck, East Coast Sour Diesel, Cheese

ROFLMFAO, That's just not true.

 

[OGMan]

You want facts. OK here are some indisputable facts;

1. Greenthumb has been in business for over 20 years.
2. Has been top rated at the Seedbankupdates for a decade or two.
3. Has been nominated for Top Ten Strains of the Year at High Times (Cindy 99)
4. Has been nominated for the Seedbank Hall of Fame at High Times
5. Has the endorsement of Jim Ortega (G13)
6. Tens of thousands of happy customers worldwide
7. Was the first to make S1 seeds of OG Kush, Bubba Kush, Chemdawg, Cindy 99, Trainwreck, East Coast Sour Diesel, Cheese and is the creator of Iranian Autoflower, Endless Sky, 747, Columbia Skies and others.

Like I said indisputable

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

First of all number the first part of number 7 is just a flat out lie and the rest of the facts don't really mean anything.

 

[bajafox]

I have OGman on ignore but I can see his posts when he's quoted. Those so called "facts" don't prove a fucking thing about this G13 being real.

That would give ANY reputable breeder the right to claim the same thing, again, no substance from the Greenthumb supporters

 

[OGMan]

First of all number the first part of number 7 is just a flat out lie and the rest of the facts don't really mean anything.

So, I guess it's your considered opinion that High Times is a fraud. That you know more about Cannabis than Danny Danko and he's a fraud. That you know more about Cannabis than Jim Ortega and he's a fraud. See...I'd say you were the fraud and a liar and that you deliberately seek to mislead the Cannabis community and that you're delusional to boot

 

[OGMan]

I have OGman on ignore but I can see his posts when he's quoted. Those so called "facts" don't prove a fucking thing about this G13 being real.

That would give ANY reputable breeder the right to claim the same thing, again, no substance from the Greenthumb supporters

Listen, Jim Ortega has endorsed Greenthumb's G13 as legit and that's good enough for me.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

So, I guess it's your considered opinion that High Times is a fraud. That you know more about Cannabis than Danny Danko and he's a fraud. That you know more about Cannabis than Jim Ortega and he's a fraud. See...I'd say you were the fraud and a liar and that you deliberately seek to mislead the Cannabis community and that you're delusional to boot

lol, HIgh Times is a publcation with advertisers and there Top 10 lists are just ways to promote said advertisers and as for Ortega having Nevil's pure G13 whcich Nevil used to breed the original F1's, yes I'm calling bullshit. The only people trying to mislead anyone on here are you, the rest of the spammers, and Greedthumb. The only thing we know about Ortega is that he had some good weed back in the day and hasn't been Growing or dealing with marijuana for 15 years before 09'. Having some nice herb back in the day doesn't prove he has G13 or anything else for that matter and he could just be trying to make a buck like Greedthumb, he is claiming he got $25,000 for the cut.

 

[bajafox]

lol, HIgh Times is a publcation with advertisers and there Top 10 lists are just ways to promote said advertisers and as for Ortega having Nevil's pure G13 whcich Nevil used to breed the original F1's, yes I calling bullshit. The only people trying to mislead anyone on here are you, the rest of the spammers and Greedthumb..

I think it's even funnier that Jim Ortega's name didn't even come up until everyone started questioning whether or not it was DD's cut, lol.

If nobody had said anything, everybody would assume they are growing G13 taken from a cut from DD, not Jim Ortega. It was only until Greenthumb was questioned that he changed his story.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

I think it's even funnier that Jim Ortega's name didn't even come up until everyone started questioning whether or not it was DD's cut, lol.

If nobody had said anything, everybody would assume they are growing G13 taken from a cut from DD, not Jim Ortega. It was only until Greenthumb was questioned that he changed his story.

And then he just tried to act like there wasn't anything said between the two of them during this debacle and acted like Dogless's statement cleared everything up but it just made it look worse. Doglesss labeling the clones D/D doesn't even make sence and just seems like a made up fact to bail out the doc. Greenthumb was so adamant in his emails between him and DD and on the MMMA website and then his story just changed. What happened to " I would not lie to you. DD can say whatever he wants, the cut came from him at a great expense to us. He himself told us it was G13 and he himself has done amazing grows with it. I personally have doubts that it's really G13 but whatever it is we wanted those yields for our customers"? And then he goes on to sell something he admittedly acknowledges is a questionable strain for $100 a seed anyway.

 

[OGMan]

You want facts. OK here are some indisputable facts;

1. Greenthumb has been in business for over 20 years.
2. Has been top rated at the Seedbankupdates for a decade or two.
3. Has been nominated for Top Ten Strains of the Year at High Times (Cindy 99)
4. Has been nominated for the Seedbank Hall of Fame at High Times
5. Has the endorsement of Jim Ortega (G13)
6. Tens of thousands of happy customers worldwide
7. Was the first to make S1 seeds of OG Kush, Bubba Kush, Chemdawg, Cindy 99, Trainwreck, East Coast Sour Diesel, Cheese and is the creator of Iranian Autoflower, Endless Sky, 747, Columbia Skies and others.

Like I said

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

Like I said

We get it. He's an advertiser in High Times,misrepresents his strains, and has no business ethics. Good for him.

 

[SCARHOLE]

. What happened to " I would not lie to you. DD can say whatever he wants, the cut came from him at a great expense to us. He himself told us it was G13 and he himself has done amazing grows with it. I personally have doubts that it's really G13 but whatever it is we wanted those yields for our customers"? And then he goes on to sell something he admittedly acknowledges is a questionable strain for $100 a seed anyway.

I would not lie to you.
( Prolly not true, everyone lies, they can to anyone, but DrGt has been around along time for a total scamer.)

DD can say whatever he wants, the cut came from him at a great expense to us. (prolly true, he didnt say he got it perosnaly from DD)

He himself told us it was G13 and he himself has done amazing grows with it
(true, he talks about his g13 with the public at thcfarmer.)


I personally have doubts that it's really G13 but whatever it is we wanted those yields for our customers"?
(True, sound like what you an BT have been saying?)

And then he goes on to sell something he admittedly acknowledges is a questionable strain for $100 a seed anyway
(If that what the public wants why not? They care bout yield an potency vs authinticity. Supply an demand dictates price, he said he will drop prices once he recoveres the investment cost to aquire the strain)

 

[OGMan]

We get it. He's an advertiser in High Times,misrepresents his strains, and has no business ethics. Good for him.

So what you're saying is if you advertize in High Times you can perpertrate any lie you want to and High Times is OK with that? That is the most cynical thing I have ever heard and you disrespect all the good work done by High Times and insult all their readers too.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

I would not lie to you.
( Prolly not true, everyone lies, they can to anyone, but DrGt has been around along time for a total scamer.)

Because it's so expensive to maintain a shotty website.

DD can say whatever he wants, the cut came from him at a great expense to us. (prolly true, he didnt say he got it perosnaly from DD)

Yes he did, multiple times/

He himself told us it was G13 and he himself has done amazing grows with it
(true, he talks about his g13 with the public at thcfarmer.)

He said he talked to DD himself.

I personally have doubts that it's really G13 but whatever it is we wanted those yields for our customers"?
(True, sound like what you an BT have been saying?)

Then he went on to say it's Nevil's cut and continues to say it's Pure G13.

And then he goes on to sell something he admittedly acknowledges is a questionable strain for $100 a seed anyway
(If that what the public wants why not? They care bout yield an potency vs authinticity. Supply an demand dictates price, he said he will drop prices once he recoveres the investment cost to aquire the strain)

If people want to buy overpriced misrepresented gear that's their prerogative and not what I was getting at. He was selling the beans with a high price tag because he attached a name to his strain that wasn't accurate knowing G13 would pull the average stoner in who didn't know the history and to me it shows he doesn't have any business ethics.

You yourself said you don't believe it's Pure G13.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

So what you're saying is if you advertize in High Times you can perpertrate any lie you want to and High Times is OK with that? That is the most cynical thing I have ever heard and you disrespect all the good work done by High Times and insult all their readers too.

LOL

Greenhouse makes those top 10 lists too.

Cynical? Honest is more like it. I'm not saying anything except you are trying to legitimize something through a publication which greenthumb advertises in.

 

[OGMan]

OK, let's step back for a minute. Your'e saying Greenthumb's G13 is Double D's G13?