Dr Greenthumbs G13
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bajafox
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Did he say this in a forum or to you personally? If it was in a forum I assume there is a link to it
Just wondering cause I could make up all kinds of shit too...
Breedbay, it is a fact.
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Relax guy/girl .. it is relevant to the G13 thing in that the Dr. has in the past sold seeds he claimed to be something other than what they were. He claimed them to be the true original Acapulco Gold, which while not the greatest strain that ever existed still a darn good one and one I was very familiar with and liked very much, but the seeds/plants were not true Acapulco Gold.
You sound like a defense attorney who is defending a man charged with rape who objects when the fact that his client has already been convicted of rape before is mentioned ... like that should not be known or as if it is unimportant and immaterial.
And your; "scorned woman" example mentioning; "decade after decade" is absurd. First off, it was not even one decade ago and second off someone here tried to claim I lied about the whole thing because I mentioned Dr. Greenthumb's fake Acapulco Gold before and did not bitch about being one of the people who were taken and just said that the old timers tried it and knew it was a fake. Because I did not specify that I was one of the old timers who tried it and knew it was fake and didn't bitch an attempt was made to claim I have never grown it. But what it really was is an example of how I do not always bitch about it when I talk about Dr. Greenthumb.
It is only mentioned now because of the parallel between the strains, the circumstances, the overall set of events ...... a famous strain of the past that has not been available to the public for a long time and that no professional breeders have suddenly mysteriously mystically and magically pops up in the hands of Dr. Greenthumb and he markets it as being the real true original it being; "pure."
Had he said he was offering one of Neville's hybrids in it's pure form I would never have mentioned his fake Acapulco Gold because I am highly confident that some of Neville's old hybrids still exist. But not real true; "pure G13."
If you do not like what I write then do not read my messages or use the ignore function so my messages will not even show up on your monitor, rather than reading my messages and then bitching pissing moaning and PMSing about what I write. What I have said is relevant. You're just trolling.
I thought everyone knew DD was gonna S1 his G13 cut? He was talking about it on THCfarmer for years.
On Breedbay he was so pissed at Doc, he said he wanted to make his S1's and give them away just to fuck Doc's sales up, too funny.
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Why do you keep posting a picture of you 'wife' and claiming it is me frmrboi?
bajafox
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That's very funny! I'd like to read that thread, link???
Dr Gruber
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Well, i havent read it for myself nor have i looked for it but i was under the impression that DD described it in a similar way. One thing to take note of is the very first thing Doc said about the taste on the MMMA web site before he put it up on his site, was that it had very little taste at all and would be good for people looking for a stealth plant. He added that it had a slighlty floral, fruity taste. So, i dont think this is going to be a pungent fruit smell by any means, and so far they hardly have any smell to them what so ever.
Found this here....http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-g13/
"According to the most reliable story, written by Jesse for the Treat Yourself Magazine, this plant was apparently liberated by an unknown assistant from a government research facility at the University of Mississippi. The G13 was part of a project run by a Dr. Carlton Turner, who was conducting research on both cannabis sativa and cannabis indica drug strains. One thing is known for a fact and that is that Neville Schoenmakers, who also founded the Seed Bank, got a hold of a clone marked G13 some way or the other. Opinions vary but apparently it was given to him by man called Sandy Weinstein, who had a friend working at the government research facility in Mississippi. The G13 was found among a batch of Afghani indicas labeled G1 through G23. The G13 was said to be highly superior to the others, sporting fast indoor flowering, massive resin production, excellent potency and extreme hybrid vigor."
And from another site i found this....http://www.cannabissearch.com/strains/g13/
G13
Classification: Indica
Growing Environment: Indoor/Outdoor
Flowering Time: 6 - 7 weeks
Yield: High
Medical Uses: Chronic pain relief, depression, appetite loss, anxiety
Breeder: University of Mississippi
Cannabissearch.com Buzz Rating: Extremely hashy taste, with undertones of fruitiness. Very euphoric, upbeat high.
Now i have no idea if any of that is from a credible source, but only after 30 seconds of looking did i find that, so someone, somewhere thinks its a fruity big plant.
Found this here....http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-g13/
"According to the most reliable story, written by Jesse for the Treat Yourself Magazine, this plant was apparently liberated by an unknown assistant from a government research facility at the University of Mississippi. The G13 was part of a project run by a Dr. Carlton Turner, who was conducting research on both cannabis sativa and cannabis indica drug strains. One thing is known for a fact and that is that Neville Schoenmakers, who also founded the Seed Bank, got a hold of a clone marked G13 some way or the other. Opinions vary but apparently it was given to him by man called Sandy Weinstein, who had a friend working at the government research facility in Mississippi. The G13 was found among a batch of Afghani indicas labeled G1 through G23. The G13 was said to be highly superior to the others, sporting fast indoor flowering, massive resin production, excellent potency and extreme hybrid vigor."
And from another site i found this....http://www.cannabissearch.com/strains/g13/
G13
Classification: Indica
Growing Environment: Indoor/Outdoor
Flowering Time: 6 - 7 weeks
Yield: High
Medical Uses: Chronic pain relief, depression, appetite loss, anxiety
Breeder: University of Mississippi
Cannabissearch.com Buzz Rating: Extremely hashy taste, with undertones of fruitiness. Very euphoric, upbeat high.
Now i have no idea if any of that is from a credible source, but only after 30 seconds of looking did i find that, so someone, somewhere thinks its a fruity big plant.
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What is the G13 link, the G13 chain between DoubleD and Jim Ortega and Dr. Greenthumb?
Now I really DOUBT that DoubleD, or anyone, has G13 in it's real true original; "pure form" so I do believe it possible that someone might very well have misled Dr. Greenthumb ... but the cut or cuts, according to Ortega, came from him. Did his come from DoubleD so DoubleD could have misled him and then in turn he misled Dr. Greenthumb, even if unintentionally? I am just not seeing where DoubleD really factors into the equation anymore. Ortega said he nicknamed the cuts D/D and that might have confused Dr. Greenthumb into thinking they were DoubleD's cuts ... which was shown a few times by me in a message I posted here that came from the MNS forums. So since the cut or cuts did not come from DoubleD I am not sure why he is still playing a roll in this, regardless of what he might have or what he might have claimed at some point to someone that might have been less than honest.
I am not standing up for or defending DoubleD in any way, but it has been established that the cut or cuts Dr. Greenthumb got did not come from DoubleD, at least not directly, and instead came from Jim Ortega, so I am not sure why DoubleD remains a key player in this?
a dog named chico
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here is an excert from the same article:Well, i havent read it for myself nor have i looked for it but i was under the impression that DD described it in a similar way. One thing to take note of is the very first thing Doc said about the taste on the MMMA web site before he put it up on his site, was that it had very little taste at all and would be good for people looking for a stealth plant. He added that it had a slighlty floral, fruity taste. So, i dont think this is going to be a pungent fruit smell by any means, and so far they hardly have any smell to them what so ever.
Found this here....http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-g13/
"According to the most reliable story, written by Jesse for the Treat Yourself Magazine, this plant was apparently liberated by an unknown assistant from a government research facility at the University of Mississippi. The G13 was part of a project run by a Dr. Carlton Turner, who was conducting research on both cannabis sativa and cannabis indica drug strains. One thing is known for a fact and that is that Neville Schoenmakers, who also founded the Seed Bank, got a hold of a clone marked G13 some way or the other. Opinions vary but apparently it was given to him by man called Sandy Weinstein, who had a friend working at the government research facility in Mississippi. The G13 was found among a batch of Afghani indicas labeled G1 through G23. The G13 was said to be highly superior to the others, sporting fast indoor flowering, massive resin production, excellent potency and extreme hybrid vigor."
And from another site i found this....http://www.cannabissearch.com/strains/g13/
G13
Classification: Indica
Growing Environment: Indoor/Outdoor
Flowering Time: 6 - 7 weeks
Yield: High
Medical Uses: Chronic pain relief, depression, appetite loss, anxiety
Breeder: University of Mississippi
Cannabissearch.com Buzz Rating: Extremely hashy taste, with undertones of fruitiness. Very euphoric, upbeat high.
Now i have no idea if any of that is from a credible source, but only after 30 seconds of looking did i find that, so someone, somewhere thinks its a fruity big plant.
The dream of acquiring some pure G13 is quickly shattered when all the evidence comes into light. The simple answer is that there is none to be found. This legendary plant lives on only through the various hybrids, all of which can be traced back to Neville Shoenmakers and the Seedbank. The closest relatives that can be found in seed form today are the strains that Sensi Seeds and The Mr Nice Seedbank offer. Whether or not this plant truly deserves all the hype is debatable, certainly there are equally potent indicas to be found available but few with such a famous yet mysterious history.
Now if this site is creditable then GreenThumb is lying...
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If DoubleD did sell Dr. the cut or cuts, explain this:
dogless
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Dr greenthumbs g13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello my Brothers,
I am here to back a real bro for not disclosing me as his source in obtaining his G13 strain. It is a great pleasure knowing this person for being true to his word.
Dr. Greenthumb has been taking alot of crap for the nickname D/D that I labled some clones that I sold him. It has caused a shit storm at a couple of forums.
I owe Dr. Greenthumb a huge apology for the stress he is probably going thru.
I am apologizing to Dr. Greenthumb here since I have quite a few friends here that know a little about my history growing mj. As most of you who know me can vouch that I have had the G13 strain since the mid 80's. Nevil can also verify that.
And also that I had sold the strain for $25g's to a "canadian breeder" a while back. Btw, the 25g's were distributed to our group who had previously agreed to keep the strain locked down. Had the economy not gone to shit it would have never been sold.
Dr. Greenthumb bought the strain and not just the clone. He decided to make it available to the public in pure form and is basically selling the strain at around 1% of what he paid for it, which is quite a deal.
I would also like to extend my apology to Double D a moderator at another forum for stress he must have for the confusion about my labeling methods.
I also want all my bro's who have sent me pm's that I am answering each and everyone within the next couple of days. The Skunk that you all are after will be available as soon as Nevil decides what he wants to do with the strain as I am leaving it up to him.
Take care my brothers!
Jim
Dr Gruber
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Thats why i put the link there so it could be checked out on your own time. It was way to long to post up here and alot of the info was just repeating what has already been said here a number of times.
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The original G13 was not described as being fruity. I have posted an original description several times and part of it said it was like urine and feces. That does not sound fruity to me so describing it as fruity does not support it being real true; "pure G13." But it does match the description of Neville's G13 x NL description.
a dog named chico
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Fair enough....
bajafox
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Thanks, but I was trying to make a point that nobody besides Dr. Greenthumb describes it as fruity...
stonedmetalhead1
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What do you mean by take a plant back to it's origins? This is a legit question I'm just trying to understand what you're saying.
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That really does not make a whole lot of sense, unless you believe the first always outsells the rest. Example: There are over 30 strains for sale all called 'White Widow' and they all sell, and likely because most, if not all of them, are less expensive and offered in feminized form it is likely that some or many of them outsell the original 'White Widow' that as hopefully by now most know was renamed Black Widow.
So if DoubleD had plans to S1 and market his cut, there would be no reason whatsoever that he still could not do it or that he would not more than earn enough to cover his retirement.
You have to know that if Dr. Greenthumb's G13 is a hit that places like Green House Seeds will buy a couple packs and go into business for themselves and sell it ... and likely claim it is the one true original. Almost every big hit is stolen or copied or used in a cross without the breeder admitting it is a cross and it ends up in the lines of many breeders.
What makes you believe that being first will give Dr. Greenthumb exclusivity of the strain, regardless of whatever it is? If DoubleD had plans to market his there is no reason why he cannot do it now. He just wouldn't be first and have the chance to for a period of time be the only person offering it and for that period of time being the only one to collect money for it.