I Feel That Dispensary's Are A Rip Off

0011StealTH

Active Member
the true medicinal scene will probably not exist until legalization...


otherwise it's just good hearted people giving to those in need. the dispensaries certainly don't do this (98% of them.)
no its 99.99% of them dont do it to be exact
 

NotYouAgain

New Member
Since everything in this is mostly common sense unless you live in the welfare world where brObama money rains down around you for being lazy and unmotivated, you can disregard the fact that I quit the Applied Economics and Management program at Cornell University after 3 semesters to spend 122 days in jail, and upon release didn't have an interest in going back. Moving on...

You see, as much as you'd like to believe that the beneficial to the sick (and to the 80% of med card holders who just like getting high so they told their doctor that they get depressed when they run out of weed, or made up some bullshit anxiety story) nature of the product dispensaries deal in should, for some illogical reason, reduce dispensaries to break-even organizations. But hey, wait a minute...the dispensary owner lives a thing called life, and life has mandatory + discretionary expenses. If they dispensary breaks even, then the owner is wasting his time, and barring someone able to work a full time job and still run a dispensary, he would soon be filing for bankruptcy, and there goes your beloved (or not) dispensary.

Also, the dispensary incurs what is known as operating expense to bring their fine product to you. Employees, rent, insurance, electricity, start-up overhead, , etc. all cost a substantial amount of money. Drug dealers (in non med states obv) don't incur these expenses as a result of their business, and due to that the price you pay them for drugs only reflects cost of drugs to them + what they determine is fair for the risk they took to sell you the drugs (typically market value). As common sense would have it, the price you pay at a dispensary reflects their operating expenses, purchase price of the budski, and profit for the owner.

If you think dispensary owners should be exempt from being in the business of making money, realize along with that there would no longer be dispensaries.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Since everything in this is mostly common sense unless you live in the welfare world where brObama money rains down around you for being lazy and unmotivated, you can disregard the fact that I quit the Applied Economics and Management program at Cornell University after 3 semesters to spend 122 days in jail, and upon release didn't have an interest in going back. Moving on...

You see, as much as you'd like to believe that the beneficial to the sick (and to the 80% of med card holders who just like getting high so they told their doctor that they get depressed when they run out of weed, or made up some bullshit anxiety story) nature of the product dispensaries deal in should, for some illogical reason, reduce dispensaries to break-even organizations. But hey, wait a minute...the dispensary owner lives a thing called life, and life has mandatory + discretionary expenses. If they dispensary breaks even, then the owner is wasting his time, and barring someone able to work a full time job and still run a dispensary, he would soon be filing for bankruptcy, and there goes your beloved (or not) dispensary.

Also, the dispensary incurs what is known as operating expense to bring their fine product to you. Employees, rent, insurance, electricity, start-up overhead, , etc. all cost a substantial amount of money. Drug dealers (in non med states obv) don't incur these expenses as a result of their business, and due to that the price you pay them for drugs only reflects cost of drugs to them + what they determine is fair for the risk they took to sell you the drugs (typically market value). As common sense would have it, the price you pay at a dispensary reflects their operating expenses, purchase price of the budski, and profit for the owner.

If you think dispensary owners should be exempt from being in the business of making money, realize along with that there would no longer be dispensaries.
The dispensaries in essence would become the recreational or connoisseurs market. The cancer patients can come to me and like-minded people for dirt-cheap meds. Or come to me and let me set them up with their own system so the CAN grow their own.

i don't care if the owners make money. Hell, let them make all they can in a FAIR market on a LEVEL playing field. That's all i ask.
 

NotYouAgain

New Member
The dispensaries in essence would become the recreational or connoisseurs market. The cancer patients can come to me and like-minded people for dirt-cheap meds. Or come to me and let me set them up with their own system so the CAN grow their own.

i don't care if the owners make money. Hell, let them make all they can in a FAIR market on a LEVEL playing field. That's all i ask.
By definition, dispensaries exist within a "FAIR"-market economy.

If you were just a little less ignorant about economics, you could substitute arbitrarily capitalized words for logical statements and we could have a discussion, but I don't see that happening.
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
wow this has turned into a nice discussion. so i will say it again dispensaries suck and are over priced the only ones happy are the workers and the sellers, patient hate them or alot of them do. who in their right mind would bother getting a card just to go buy shit meds at street prices, fuck a grower who charges out the ass, i can under stand like 50 bucks every few months but no more and only if the patient wants to and is not constantly asked.

if you want to be grower then do it for the right reasons and not to make cash like the pharmacy companies cuz thats exactly whats happening, high prices and shit meds.

i have been getting free meds now for 2 years not once was i asked for cash not once was i out, and these are 2 different growers, just got to sift out the fucking ass holes who just want money and then give you not even half of the harvest and make you pay.

ILL say it again FUCK ALL DISpENSERIES
 

budlover13

King Tut
wow this has turned into a nice discussion. so i will say it again dispensaries suck and are over priced the only ones happy are the workers and the sellers, patient hate them or alot of them do. who in their right mind would bother getting a card just to go buy shit meds at street prices, fuck a grower who charges out the ass, i can under stand like 50 bucks every few months but no more and only if the patient wants to and is not constantly asked.

if you want to be grower then do it for the right reasons and not to make cash like the pharmacy companies cuz thats exactly whats happening, high prices and shit meds.

i have been getting free meds now for 2 years not once was i asked for cash not once was i out, and these are 2 different growers, just got to sift out the fucking ass holes who just want money and then give you not even half of the harvest and make you pay.

ILL say it again FUCK ALL DISpENSERIES
Man i was with you ftw until your last statement. i understand your frustration but i wouldn't say all. Just a vast majority.
 

budlover13

King Tut
By definition, dispensaries exist within a "FAIR"-market economy.

If you were just a little less ignorant about economics, you could substitute arbitrarily capitalized words for logical statements and we could have a discussion, but I don't see that happening.
Ok. i used the one four-letter f-word i get onto my son for using b/c NotHiNg(THAT would be random capitalization sir) in life is "fair". NOTHING!

It is far from a free market now and without a free market you will not see prices regulated by supply and demand w/o greedy bastards who think they are entitled to own the largest share of EVERYTHING manipulating said markey and do it at the expense of the less fortunate im-humbly educated-o. You are the one who took higher-education economics so you must see that it is true if you have a conscience.
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
ya your right a very large number of dispensaries suck, i guess theri is some OK ones. i just dont like the fact a patient has to pay for meds
 

r1tony

New Member
Growing is more of a high then the high itself. I learned so much about everything its interesting and its producing something I need. Its a win win, I wouldn't mind if they done away with the caregivers and dispensaries etc. They are the ones going to ruin the laws anwyay.. get em gone!
 

budlover13

King Tut
ya your right a very large number of dispensaries suck, i guess theri is some OK ones. i just dont like the fact a patient has to pay for meds
i don't have a problem with a patient paying a reasonable price for meds but that's where it gets sticky. It seems as though "reasonable" is a highly debated term.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Growing is more of a high then the high itself. I learned so much about everything its interesting and its producing something I need. Its a win win, I wouldn't mind if they done away with the caregivers and dispensaries etc. They are the ones going to ruin the laws anwyay.. get em gone!
Under the current system, yes they will. Under a Regulate Marijuana Like Wine system though, the honest good growers can make a "reasonable" living catering to those that just don't have a greenthumb or can't grow because of circumstances.
 

r1tony

New Member
Under the current system, yes they will. Under a Regulate Marijuana Like Wine system though, the honest good growers can make a "reasonable" living catering to those that just don't have a greenthumb or can't grow because of circumstances.

I dont care any and all bad press/rap you see about the MMJ laws is some dumb fkr that sells to other non card holders or dispensaries bending the laws in two.. I LOVE EM GONE!
 

budlover13

King Tut
I dont care any and all bad press/rap you see about the MMJ laws is some dumb fkr that sells to other non card holders or dispensaries bending the laws in two.. I LOVE EM GONE!
True. So how about the dispensaries grow their own once this: http://www.regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/ kind of legislation passes. No vendors. You want to grow weed and sell it out your back door? Go for it! Pay your taxes and obey age restrictions, but just do it.

Dispensary is a bad name for these new outlets because of all the negative things that have been seen. Maybe Canna-Convenience stores? idk. i'm sure there are many better titles out there. Call 'em a camel stable for all i care. As long as they are here and following the regulations set forth for 2012.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
this is just an example of how you can make 30 times your profit by ripping people off.

the basics DOLLAR CFLS i got on special bought 10
hydro containers 7 dollars bought a box of small containers for five dollars and add 2 dollars for a plastic shoe box at b1glots
i use super natural nutrients bought both flowering and veg for 30 bucks
timer 8 bucks
add 15 dollar fan
i had a old pump so that was free
time to add it up $71.00 dollars

how much does a ounce of HIGHS go for 300.00 ? maybe even more
lets say one plant produces 1 once (althought it can easily do 2) lets keep it reasanable
you grow 10 plants every plant produces a once equals to $3000.00

now i dont know about you but 3k is more than enough to cover what i spend and. more there really is no justification for this to keep on happening
it doesn't take a scientist to see this. ugly situation as well.
are you fucking kidding me? you think you can grow ten plants that each harvest an ounce with 10 cfl lights?

LOL!

you also forgot to include the electric and something to screw the light bulbs into.

try again, this is not even close to being accurate.

cfl lights that are a dollar a piece are usually the 40-60 watt equivalent, or about 13 actual watts. 10 of those would get you 130 watts total, about enough to grow a single plant.
 

r1tony

New Member
True. So how about the dispensaries grow their own once this: http://www.regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/ kind of legislation passes. No vendors. You want to grow weed and sell it out your back door? Go for it! Pay your taxes and obey age restrictions, but just do it.

Dispensary is a bad name for these new outlets because of all the negative things that have been seen. Maybe Canna-Convenience stores? idk. i'm sure there are many better titles out there. Call 'em a camel stable for all i care. As long as they are here and following the regulations set forth for 2012.
Well you're talking in fairy land. Thats a perfect world and law, which will *never* materialize in our life time. I am commenting on the laws now and who and what is fucking them up at the present time!!

When this materializes then you can state the wonders of the laws, till then its just a pipe dream.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
right but i still think they shouldn't get all that greedy profit.
then don't support them. simple as that. that is ALL you can do.

well, you can also whine about how the market works on the internet. how's that working for you?

otherwise, you are talking about a draconian system of FORCING growers, buyers, and dispensaries into a certain price. where would be the incentive for people to grow top shelf meds if they are forced into accepting the same price as shitty mid range meds?

are you a card carrying communist?
 

budlover13

King Tut
Well you're talking in fairy land. Thats a perfect world and law, which will *never* materialize in our life time. I am commenting on the laws now and who and what is fucking them up at the present time!!

When this materializes then you can state the wonders of the laws, till then its just a pipe dream.
i was actually referring to the likely state of things if this http://www.regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/ passes. i have a dream.
 
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