Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

R3DROCk9

R3DROCk9

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PH...

yeah i kno wut you mean..i been looked...the psorisis treatment lights are the strongest....800watts of uvB, if i recall correctly

anyways google those sunpulse bulbs and lemme kno wut you think bc i looked at the box and it said uvA.....bu they make grow lights....so it could be jus marketing...i dunno

also, i heard about 10% of the total light output should be uvB (1000watt flower bulb, so 100watt uvB)....i was thinking maybe the more the better, tho ...so i dunno bout dat either
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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R3DROCk9 said:
also....matty .....any experience with insect frass??? i dont really wanna add kaakaa to my garden, bu heard the natural chemical in the frass makes the plant think it getting attacked so it produces more trichromes......maybe we could isolate the chem without the shit????

anyways, i jus been looking into how to increase essential oils, if anyone has sum good ideas, i would love to hear them...
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GROW vegan organic and you will increase terpenoids :)

I've seen that insect frass, interesting. I'm still using EWC and compost.
 
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beeznutz

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R3DROCk9 said:
PH...

yeah i kno wut you mean..i been looked...the psorisis treatment lights are the strongest....800watts of uvB, if i recall correctly

anyways google those sunpulse bulbs and lemme kno wut you think bc i looked at the box and it said uvA.....bu they make grow lights....so it could be jus marketing...i dunno

also, i heard about 10% of the total light output should be uvB (1000watt flower bulb, so 100watt uvB)....i was thinking maybe the more the better, tho ...so i dunno bout dat either
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i'm interested in this as well....here's a discussion on the topic:

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/392897-10k-sunpulse-uva-vs-exo.html
 
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beeznutz

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and on that note, whattya guys prefer for lights?digi, magnet?
i keep getting controversial facts about either one of them...do digis last longer or no?
 
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beeznutz

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NightbirdX said:
tried to listen in, couldn't get it to work. I actually had made a sort of lazy mistake that really benefited me in the end. I ended up having a hellacious week and forgot to rotate my plants one week after I had transplanted them into 5 gallons. One side was markedly taller than the other. I transplanted them into 10 gal buckets before I sent them into flowering. I don't normally stake the plants until the second week of flowering to let the plant develop as it wants and then open it up. With these that had grown "lopsided, I pulled the longer tops to one side and the shorter to the other and it really created this interesting canopy in a "V" shape. On each side of the lights, the plants are sloping up with the lowest under the light and the tallest furthest away. It is actually pretty cool and has made it really convenient in spreading out and making an even canopy, looking down the row of lights kinda looks like looking down the length of a half pipe. The lights in the middle and the plants are the pipe. Gonna try to recreate this. The light dispersion is amazing and it really gives an equal amount of light to all the buds. All the buds are pretty uniform and swelling and the tops in the back are starting to connect and swell quite a bit, but don't compete with the smaller plants for light. I'll try to get some pics up of it later.
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haha....that's what iv been doing too.
i'm terrible at dealing with cuttings and i always end up with some odd shaped plants so i do training and topping quite early.
i luv how after you pull the main branches to the side the middle shoots just go straight up to the sky!
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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beeznutz said:
and on that note, whattya guys prefer for lights?digi, magnet?
i keep getting controversial facts about either one of them...do digis last longer or no?
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not sure if they last longer, but they work more efficiently for sure. Are smaller, run cooler, and you can use both MH and HPS lights in them
 
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SlightlyVaped

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Thanks R3drock9. I'd be interested to hear if you can actually preserve it for 3-4 weeks.

If you are using that much tea, have you tried making it yourself? If so, do you find the Vermi T better?

Before I moved into an apartment I was looking into getting a worm bin to make my own. If you look into it many cities will subsidize the cost of a worm bin as it cuts down on garbage.

The city I live in offers these for $50 (I've seen some cities offer them for less with worms):

http://www.allthingsorganic.com/Waste_Programs/wriggly-wranch.asp

One of our local worm sellers in my area offer a bag version which seems pretty interesting:

http://theworminn.com/

I'd probably set one up if I had a patio or something as it seems like a great way to save some cash on nutrients as well as reduce the amount of waste that goes to the dump.
 
R3DROCk9

R3DROCk9

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your welcome vape ....yeah the tea is good for 10-14days once you brew it, and another 10-14days after you dilute it. in other words, you brew it and split it in two..since its concentrated at that point, you put one of the concentrations in the fridge and leave it be.... then you dilute the other half of the brew with water....use the diluted one for the first two weeks (refridgerate in between uses tho), and then after the 10-14 days wen you use that up, you dilute the other half and its good for another 10-14days from that point. SOo....

10-14 days for concentrated brew & another 10-14days after you dilute the tea....itll go to smelling like a sewer wen its bad, so youll kno.


Also vape....the worm bins your referring to use red wiggler earthworms, which are NOT the same ones used for worm castings from wut ive gathered..i, too, looked into that awhile back :)

and........ i also thought to put them in the soil to aerate it, bu i heard that unless i feed them food scraps, theyll end up eating my roots...lol ..again, this is all info i have gathered about the worms, bu it was awhile ago, so plz lemme kno if you hear of anything different...

p.s. i think they use nightcrawlers or sumthin for the castings....im not sure tho....maybe it was the nightcrawlers that were going to ravish my roots...i cant recall right now

because its 8:40 babEEE

twice as nice as 4:20....and at a better time..after dinner, before TV ...get like mHe

we in da millenium...42:0 is sum seventies stuff...good for its time, bu definitely outdated for NOW pce :joint::bigjoint:
 
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SlightlyVaped

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That's not bad if it lasts up to 20-28 days, I might have to pick up a half gallon and try that out (use it for 10 days then add water and see how much longer it goes).

I am a very small gardener so I won't be needing a brewer anytime soon, but my local shop a few miles away brews it a couple times a week.

From what I have read red wiggler worms are a composting worm and many are using their castings for compost and tea. If it's the best species of worm for this purpose I don't know.

I'll have to do some research and see if any casting makers are listing what type of worms they are using to create their product. As these bins should be able to raise most types of worms and we can regulate their diets for our use.

Any thoughts on this Matt?
 
R3DROCk9

R3DROCk9

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yeah matty..any thoughts??...answer the man's question already......you damn slacker


lol jus playin mentor matt. plz dont ravish my rootz like a compost worm

X^{D
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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SlightlyVaped said:
That's not bad if it lasts up to 20-28 days, I might have to pick up a half gallon and try that out (use it for 10 days then add water and see how much longer it goes).

I am a very small gardener so I won't be needing a brewer anytime soon, but my local shop a few miles away brews it a couple times a week.

From what I have read red wiggler worms are a composting worm and many are using their castings for compost and tea. If it's the best species of worm for this purpose I don't know.

I'll have to do some research and see if any casting makers are listing what type of worms they are using to create their product. As these bins should be able to raise most types of worms and we can regulate their diets for our use.

Any thoughts on this Matt?
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C. WORMS

The two types of earthworm best suited to worm composting are the redworms: Eisenia foetida (commonly known as red wiggler, brandling, or manure worm) and Lumbricus rubellus They are often found in aged manure and compost heaps. Please do not use dew-worms (large size worms found in soil and compost) as they are not likely to survive.
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http://www.cityfarmer.org/wormcomp61.html
 
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SlightlyVaped

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There you go, now we can RIZE up against expensive vermicompost manufacturers, make our own with a $10 bucket, some worms, produce scraps and unpaid bills.

Might need to set up a small one under the sink for my small batches of tea.
 
sharpshoota

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Worms wont eat live plant roots. they dont have teeth... they suck in microbes and decaying (dead) food particles.

Night crawlers or Super reds are larger and breed quicker than red wigglers, are used for composting as well as fishing. these are the burrowing kind.

red wigglers are mainly used for composting. are not the burrowing kind.

both breeds are completley different and do not cross breed either...
 
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http://www.goveganic.net/spip.php?article33

Victoria Farm
GENEVA, FLORIDA
Victoria Farm is an expanding family farm. It is run by Kip and Emily in Geneva, Florida. In 2008, Victoria Farm became the first farm in North America to be Certified Stockfree-Organic through the U.K.’s standards for veganic farms. Their certification was awarded through joint efforts between the Vegan Organic Network in the U.K. and Quality Certification Services, a 3rd party certifier.

Victoria Farm has about 60 fruit and nut trees, which will act as a canopy for a future forest garden. Details of their forest garden establishment can be read online. Currently, the farmers consume most of the produce themselves, occasionally donating the surplus, and plan to sell future surpluses in their local area.

Using plant-based techniques, they seek to maximize their on-farm fertility, to increase overall energy efficiency, and to farm without the exploitation of animals. The farm’s fertility is maintained through green manure, compost, no-till and forest gardening practices.

They make their own compost, combining bahia grass and clover with chipped branch wood. Coastal hay and chipped branch wood are used to mulch the vegetable beds. To further enhance the nutrient cycle, they have begun brewing actively aerated compost tea (AACT), and micronutrient deficiencies are addressed with soluble kelp meal and alfalfa meal.

The farmers use vegan growing techniques because they do not want blood, bone, or products from confined animal feeding operations in their soils and in their food. They also have a small sanctuary of rescued chickens, pigs, and turkeys who they care for on the farm: the animals’ bedding and manure are composted for landscaping use, but only plant-based composts are used for food production.

If you would like to contact Victoria Farm, you can send an email through this form and we will happily forward your message to the farmers. Please mention that your message is for Victoria Farm...
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Nice! I wanted to ask you how your tga girls came out... I recently started 2 Qleaner, 2 Vortex, one Dairy Queen and a Chernobyl. Really looking forward to how these turn out if they are anything like yours, the Cher. looks awesome :) are they both 6.5 wks in?

I should also be crossing a querkle with a space bomb male I have, should be fun.
 
R3DROCk9

R3DROCk9

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sharpshoota said:
Worms wont eat live plant roots. they dont have teeth... they suck in microbes and decaying (dead) food particles.

Night crawlers or Super reds are larger and breed quicker than red wigglers, are used for composting as well as fishing. these are the burrowing kind.

red wigglers are mainly used for composting. are not the burrowing kind.

both breeds are completley different and do not cross breed either...
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THANX GUYS!!!!

i think i was misled wen i inquired about worm castings before..hmm, i may start my own worm bin soon :)

anywyas, so wut type of worm is best for making worm castings again??

im still a liddle confused.... :joint::bigjoint:
 
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