Whats a good excuse to get prescribed a medical card without a doctors refferal?
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easyrider23
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My brother has a growers card in Washington. He got it because of his back, arthritis or something. My uncle grows it for his wife's mother who is chronically ill. You said you're healthy which is great. You could always try to claim that you have arthritis in your knees or back and simply apply for a card. I don't know how rigourous the screening process is, but hell it certainly is worth a try. If that doesn't work try to an older person who smokes weed but has bone or joint problems and try to grow from them. From what I understand you can signup to be the registered and legally authorized grower for them. The reason why people need others to grow for them is because, in most cases, they aren't able to do the work or the lifting that is involved in growing. Someone with scoliosis in there back or arthritis in their hands or knees would have a hard time growing on their own. In Washington the limit is 15 plants which is more than enough for a small grow.
Dan Kone
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100% agreed. I think I fall into the group of people you describe. I have a doctors rec or mild insomnia and occasional back pain. Most of that back pain comes from excessive gardening/trimming. It wasn't a huge problem when I was working in an office.
But the result of me having a doctors rec is I'm able to give free trays of brownies to my friends aunt who has cancer and can't keep much food down due to the chemo. I have a family member with glaucoma who I make kush based tinctures to reduce eye pressure. And a my best friend has severe cramping due to Polycystic ovary syndrome who gets free sacks when ever she wants.
I could not do any of that if it wasn't for the people who fake illnesses or have very minor illnesses who go to clubs to buy their sacks. And really all those people want is to be able to safely buy cannabis without the threat of the police. That really isn't that bad.
Most of these clubs wouldn't even exist without those people with no illness or minor illnesses buying cannabis from them. People with serious illnesses would have little to no access to medicine without them.
Also there is a safety in numbers factor in the equation. We must not lose sight of a very important point that I believe is frequently overlooked. The people who fight medical marijuana are going to be fighting it no matter what we do. If we limited medical marijuana to terminally ill cancer and aids patients, they would still be going after medical marijuana. And in the past, they have done exactly that.
By having hundreds of thousands of people with doctors recs, it gives the seriously ill a little more cover from MMJ haters. We provide the seriously ill with an alternative target for those wishing to put on a show with medical marijuana busts. These busts would absolutely still happen under any circumstances. It's not the fault of people with no/minor illnesses getting cards. The blame lies entirely with the people fighting against MMJ.
It's also much easier for the anti-mmj crowd to take away mmj rights from a thousand people than it is from a million people. With the constant growing size of the medical marijuana community it makes it very difficult to revoke mmj. It's not just the sheer volume of people that makes it difficult, but also the money involved in mmj makes legal action against MMJ less likely to be successful.
In my opinion, the more mmj patients the better it is for everyone. That being said, that isn't the problem here. The problem publicly flaunting the fact that you're faking an illness just to get a card is poor form. If people want to do that, it's fine by me, but a little discretion would be appreciated. Asking a friend is a more appropriate way to do this rather than ask these questions publicly.
sorry for the TL;DR everyone.
Katatawnic
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You're correct that it shouldn't be this way. But it is, for now anyway. Medical use has not only been a godsend for people who are sick and need cannabis' properties to help improve their quality of life, but it's also helped pave the way toward less Reefer Madness amongst the rest of the population. Many people who know me have never tried pot, and most of them bought into the Reefer Madness years/decades ago. Having watched me as a medical user, they've come to see that there's nothing to fear about pot, after all. They've gone from being anti-pot to pro-legalization, whether they are interested in using it themselves or not.
However, to think that the gov't doesn't want to take away MMJ because they want us to be sick is far from the truth. They do want to take MMJ away from us, though they're perfectly fine with Big Pharma shoving every chemical under the sun down our throats. The feds are constantly looking for ways to stop the MMJ states, and many of the MMJ states' cities and counties still fight to keep us from having dispensaries, our own gardens, etc. We still have to live constantly looking over our shoulders, so as not to draw LEO's attention to us. Having a doctor's recommendation (or even a county issued card) doesn't guarantee immunity from prosecution or persecution. It makes it more difficult, but it doesn't ensure that I won't be arrested. I wouldn't get a conviction (I follow the laws in my state), but my body wouldn't make it through just a night or two in jail... it barely makes it in the comforts of home.
It's about large companies fearing competition from hemp as well as MJ, and about some self righteous jerks wanting to enforce their "morals" on the rest of us. So when people are loudly and proudly making public announcements about using "excuses" to get into the MMJ "scene" they are risking what little rights we do have, and they are not helping the fight for legalization across the board. We had to go the legal route to fight for medical use, and we have to go the legal route to fight for recreational use as well.
Instead of trying to screw the system, we need to continue fighting it. That is how everyone will come out ahead.
Katatawnic
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Thank you.THAT WAS BEAUTIFULyou have a way with word and those were all facts for that i give you rep.. much love
Some people don't understand that I'm not pro-LEO... I'm just for getting LEO off of our backs once and for all. 
d.s.m.
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I'd like that twice if I could.
NoGutsGrower
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that's what i like to hear! I have never been handed cash for pot! but then again I dont ever have to buy any growing supplies. I just call someone and have them meet me at the hydro store! How I see it is I make about 500-800 a month growing. Thats what I was spending every month before i started growing now i dont spend anything! I even have people offering to pay the power bill because its been so long since they have paid for anything! I only supply me and 7 as of now but come corp-tober that number will go up! A buddy and I got 17 cards for this one.
NoGutsGrower
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True! I have been taking marinol since 2009. Fake thc. but since its from a pharmacy it's fine! There is a drug called sativex that you should look up! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sativex http://www.gwpharm.com/faqs.aspx Also look up who the pharm. co. hired to get it passed in the US. then look at what she did before!!! went from campaigning against weed to promoting a mouth spray that is derived from the plant not made in a test tube! All I know is I really hope they can get sativex passed! I will be all over that! Who is going to turn down free really pure tincture??? NOT ME!!!You're correct that it shouldn't be this way. But it is, for now anyway. Medical use has not only been a godsend for people who are sick and need cannabis' properties to help improve their quality of life, but it's also helped pave the way toward less Reefer Madness amongst the rest of the population. Many people who know me have never tried pot, and most of them bought into the Reefer Madness years/decades ago. Having watched me as a medical user, they've come to see that there's nothing to fear about pot, after all. They've gone from being anti-pot to pro-legalization, whether they are interested in using it themselves or not.
However, to think that the gov't doesn't want to take away MMJ because they want us to be sick is far from the truth. They do want to take MMJ away from us, though they're perfectly fine with Big Pharma shoving every chemical under the sun down our throats. The feds are constantly looking for ways to stop the MMJ states, and many of the MMJ states' cities and counties still fight to keep us from having dispensaries, our own gardens, etc. We still have to live constantly looking over our shoulders, so as not to draw LEO's attention to us. Having a doctor's recommendation (or even a county issued card) doesn't guarantee immunity from prosecution or persecution. It makes it more difficult, but it doesn't ensure that I won't be arrested. I wouldn't get a conviction (I follow the laws in my state), but my body wouldn't make it through just a night or two in jail... it barely makes it in the comforts of home.
It's about large companies fearing competition from hemp as well as MJ, and about some self righteous jerks wanting to enforce their "morals" on the rest of us. So when people are loudly and proudly making public announcements about using "excuses" to get into the MMJ "scene" they are risking what little rights we do have, and they are not helping the fight for legalization across the board. We had to go the legal route to fight for medical use, and we have to go the legal route to fight for recreational use as well.
Instead of trying to screw the system, we need to continue fighting it. That is how everyone will come out ahead.
Dan Kone
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I've got no problem with people making an honest living growing medical. I do think that comes with certain obligations to the community. As long as people are helping out those who really need it, it's a good thing IMO.
NoGutsGrower
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I didn't!!!! MJ has more than been proven to help with nausea! And let me tell you, Having NoGuts is a B****! No I wont die if I don't smoke weed every day but but It is a lot better that weekly shots and daily pills to kill my immune system and enough pain meds to make a heroin addict drool!
Try getting your gut cut open from just below your ribs to just above your crotch at least once a year!!!
NoGutsGrower
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I got no problem with people making a living off of it either!!!! I'm glad I'm in the position that I don't have to! My lady does medical assessments and medical billing for the state. She loves her stay at home man! If I needed the money to get by I would do what I had to do! Before I was with her I was on disability making 1066 a month and had to live in a shitty area for a while. I couldn't afford to buy anything, once I got my lady and got my grow really growing we decided I am going to be a stay at home man and help where I can! I honestly wish I could give everyone free stuff! It was a lot of work getting the farm setup and a lot of money came out of my pocket, my buddy was broke after buying the land. We got help from anyone that could help but most of the people I grow for are like me, with out guts, or cancer patients who aren't working either. I was going to support groups for years and met a lot of sick people! Being able to talk to someone who has the same problems as you is nice!!!
Maximus cannabis
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Tell them your d!ck is so big it hurts to walk because the tip is dragging...
obijohn
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hehe if they won't prescribe weed for that, they should at least give you a wheelbarrow!
Kushjr42014
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they make u itchy because their opium based i had same feeling now im all organic =]
CanadianDank
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So they guy with no medical condition was taking painkillers?
You sound like a bright one junior.
mazand1982
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they dont care anymore, u only need medical documentation like 1 out of 5 times i think...its all a money game now, u pay the doctor the 100 bucks or whatever and he acts like something is wrong with you....ofcourse i live in cali and we dont give a fuck about nuffin over here,LOL...so it might be different where ur at
Kushjr42014
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i got them when i went through surgery like 3 years ago