White House Saves The Life Of A Murdering Raping Illegal Immigrant.

beardo

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The White House has stopped the execution in Tecas of an Illegal Immigrant who Raped and Murdered a 16 year old because they say he should have been able to contact the Mexican consulate for legal help.
 

olylifter420

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What the fuck!!! He'll be killed on the streets, rapos dont get to far in life. Or the stupid fucking wetback will make his way back to mx to his shit hole!
 

BendBrewer

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Or saved the lives of thousands of future Americans that might have their rights restricted from them if charged in a foreign country.

It's not all black and white man. You can shelve your hate. Ignorance is the root of all frustration.
 

BendBrewer

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they say he should have been able to contact the Mexican consulate for legal help.
No. A treaty that we are part of says that. You should really look into this before trying to mislead others. Just a thought.
 

Mupphet.Man

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Yeah, BEND is right, I heard about this on NPR a little while ago, though they were speculating this would happen then, now I guess it's concrete policy.

So he got a freebie. LEO's: GO CATCH SOME SKINNERS AND LEAVE THE CANNABIS CULTIVATORS ALONE.
 

mame

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And an Orlando jury let a baby killer off the hook.
Because there wasn't enough proof to convict in the eyes of the jury; That's how our legal system works...

"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" as they say.
 

urmomis100

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No. A treaty that we are part of says that. You should really look into this before trying to mislead others. Just a thought.
The treaty is not legally binding to the US unless our Congress approves of it and passes it- which has not happened yet. It protects our sovereignty as a nation.
 

urmomis100

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Or saved the lives of thousands of future Americans that might have their rights restricted from them if charged in a foreign country.

It's not all black and white man. You can shelve your hate. Ignorance is the root of all frustration.
But I agree w/ you on this, Ive been watchin Locked Up Abroad and some foreign governments have treated our detained citizens like shit... and we cant necessarily bitch about that if we're hippocrates.
 

sync0s

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Because there wasn't enough proof to convict in the eyes of the jury; That's how our legal system works...

"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" as they say.
Isn't beardo one of the people arguing on the side of constitutionalists??? He just resorted to fear mongering in order for rights being sacrificed in the name of security...
 

beardo

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Isn't beardo one of the people arguing on the side of constitutionalists??? He just resorted to fear mongering in order for rights being sacrificed in the name of security...
I just think it's strange how were not at war with Libya and we continue to celebrate our victory in Iraq from the war we never fought their but won 8 years ago and the ongoing war terror that again is not a war in Packistan and Afganistan and police are shooting people and our country is being invaded and They interviened to stay this guys exicution? What about the Retard they executed awhile back? I mean that guy was retarded or what about Eddie Lepp doing time for plants?
This guy probably should have never been tried or gone to waste our money in prison, If Gun laws and rights were as they should be he could have gotten a bullet in his ass under the constitution upon commision of his crime and saved us all a lot of trouble.
I'm glad to hear their starting to think about human rights, I just think this is the wrong place to start.
 

sync0s

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I just think it's strange how were not at war with Libya and we continue to celebrate our victory in Iraq from the war we never fought their but won 8 years ago and the ongoing war terror that again is not a war in Packistan and Afganistan and police are shooting people and our country is being invaded and They interviened to stay this guys exicution? What about the Retard they executed awhile back? I mean that guy was retarded or what about Eddie Lepp doing time for plants?
This guy probably should have never been tried or gone to waste our money in prison, If Gun laws and rights were as they should be he could have gotten a bullet in his ass under the constitution upon commision of his crime and saved us all a lot of trouble.
You must be in favor of waterboarding terrorists....
 

beardo

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You must be in favor of waterboarding terrorists....
I am against water boarding for the most part, I believe it is ineffective at this point, they are prepared for that now they know it is a technique we use they might even train to endure it now. I am infavor of more extreme measures like the use of massive doses of LSD and Marasa and Audio and Visual stimulis as well as electro shock and sleep depravation and simulated drowning and food depravation.
 

olylifter420

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So i guess you are ok with dudes rapping young women and then killing them... Seems pretty american to me!



Or saved the lives of thousands of future Americans that might have their rights restricted from them if charged in a foreign country.

It's not all black and white man. You can shelve your hate. Ignorance is the root of all frustration.
 

sync0s

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I am against water boarding for the most part, I believe it is ineffective at this point, they are prepared for that now they know it is a technique we use they might even train to endure it now. I am infavor of more extreme measures like the use of massive doses of LSD and Marasa and Audio and Visual stimulis as well as electro shock and sleep depravation and simulated drowning and food depravation.
I have repeated Ben Franklin to many times, and I now refuse to do so.

If you torcher (SUSPECTED) terrorists, you can torcher Americans. The other added detail to this is that none of those torchered 'terrorists' have ever seen a court room. Effectiveness is completely irrelevant.

1) Do you know how easy it is for the government to turn on a normal American citizen with views of desent and torcher them for "information?"
2) Our humane treatment of prisoners is there also to prevent American citizens captured internationally from being treated in that manner.
3)
...any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions. --UN Convention Against Torture
4) How can you be okay with torchering somebody who may be innocent for information? How would you feel about your friend who doesn't smoke pot being torchered by the DEA for information on your grow op??
 

olylifter420

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Have you ever been locked up in mexico? Or iran?


I have repeated Ben Franklin to many times, and I now refuse to do so.

If you torcher (SUSPECTED) terrorists, you can torcher Americans. The other added detail to this is that none of those torchered 'terrorists' have ever seen a court room. Effectiveness is completely irrelevant.

1) Do you know how easy it is for the government to turn on a normal American citizen with views of desent and torcher them for "information?"
2) Our humane treatment of prisoners is there also to prevent American citizens captured internationally from being treated in that manner.
3)
4) How can you be okay with torchering somebody who may be innocent for information? How would you feel about your friend who doesn't smoke pot being torchered by the DEA for information on your grow op??
 

londonfog

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Have you ever been locked up in Mexico? Or iran?
I was locked up in Tijuana long ago whilst in the USAF...had to pay 275 bucks to get out ..dumb ass me could have gave the police 50 bucks on the street, but hey I was trying to argue my rights...lesson learned that day...STFU and pay....worst jails ever!!!!!!
 

olylifter420

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Been there before, In tamaulipas though... Not the niciest of places!



I was locked up in Tijuana long ago whilst in the USAF...had to pay 275 bucks to get out ..dumb ass me could have gave the police 50 bucks on the street, but hey I was trying to argue my rights...lesson learned that day...STFU and pay....worst jails ever!!!!!!
 
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