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S33K

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this is my jack the ripper at 3.5-4 weeks into flower.

its in happy frog soil, 15 gal smart pot, under single 1000w hps

plant size is 6.5' tall and 4.5-6' wide...the leaves are yellowing and the spots look brownish/rust like which makes me believe cal/mag deficiency. day temps run mid to high 70's and night run mid 60's to low 70's. has one wall mount fan blowing near top of plant

i run RO water and have fed maybe once or twice during flower with roots organics, and one progress earth compost tea, one ancient forest compost tea, one worm casting tea, and few times got some organic product called thunder. also have 3 worms that live in pot

any help would be appreciated..thanks
 
max316420

max316420

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Looks like a calmag def, more on the calcium side but get some calmag or epsom salt and add it to your feeding schedule. when using RO water you should always supplement with some sort of calmag.. You might also be underfeeding them. Do you have a pic of the whole plant?
 
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im taking my RO membrane off next watering and running just as a small boy unit as sediment filter, and carbon filter. My ppms when i tested early this year was 200 out of a well, and im gonna try to remember to test my water tomorrow. ( i did collect about 95gallons of rain water the other night)

so two stage filtered water and i'll do 2/3-full dose of roots organic feeding, ph'd 6.3-6.5. following watering will be progress earth compost tea then organic thunder next watering

should i top dress with some castings or organicare bloom granulars at all?
 
del66666

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S33K said:
im taking my RO membrane off next watering and running just as a small boy unit as sediment filter, and carbon filter. My ppms when i tested early this year was 200 out of a well, and im gonna try to remember to test my water tomorrow. ( i did collect about 95gallons of rain water the other night)

so two stage filtered water and i'll do 2/3-full dose of roots organic feeding, ph'd 6.3-6.5. following watering will be progress earth compost tea then organic thunder next watering

should i top dress with some castings or organicare bloom granulars at all?
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you say you got carbon filtering your water?
 
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yes im using a stealth ro unit by hydrofarm

Im switching to only compost teas and no more bottled nutrients to do true TLO "true living organics" and never ph..focus on microbe teas up to mid flower and then switch to fungal teas

ill start my next batch tomorrow and see what happens

i also have or had some baby aphid coming out of my saucer..i had ants in my basement coming out at night and i believe they were trying to start up farming aphids on my plant! not sure if its just aphids or root aphids (somthing new ive been hearing about)....i'll do a mite-rid drench and then switch to my teas and see what happens
 
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so i got home today to check on my outdoor and indoor plant to see if the teas showed any effect. my outdoor crop still looking healthy and abit more green and some more growth showed today ...my indoor flower plant looks still even sicker!

i dunno what to do at this point, im 3.5-4weeks into flower and im seein SLOW flower formation, 1/3 of my plant is yellow with brown spots, crinkly dead brown leafs, and its KILLING me. i have no idea what to do.

i tested my soil ph with the the ph pill kit and the color shows that im about 7, so neutral. should i water in some cal/mag, add superthrive or what?

will superthrive kill my microbes?

maybe my plants choking out in a 15gal fabric pot..it is 6.5' tall by 5-6' wide, but i transplanted it from a 7gal smart pot to this pot one week before flowering
 
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i have them a compost nutrient tea last night with castings, mushroom compost, mexican, and peruvian guano, and some maxicrop seweed... tomorrow i'll top dress with worm castings and hit with well water thats 200ppms instead of ro water and add cal/mag

sounds like a start?
 
MrGhettoGrower

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Sounds like you was not feeding regularly and feeding at a lower ppm or was you even checking ppms? I don't even try to say it short this or that cuz how can you give'em this or that. You give it a full dose of a top of the line nutrients every other watering!
 
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well i hit it last night after my post... since i watered heavily last night i just grabbed a gallon of rain water out of my collection bucket...gave it kelp at full dose, and general organics cal mag at double dose and alil roots oregonismxl

i didnt ph. im running compost teas and nutrient teas, and im told to not ph as microbes do the work and feed the plant and that if i ph it will hurt my teas? i do have earth juice natural up and down and safergro omri ph down
 
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im beginning to think its my roots and my pot.

i had my plants fully rootbound in a 7gal smart pot. i didn't have anywhere to put them so they sat under t5s and began dieing.

few weeks later i cleaned up the dead leaves and cleaned em up, then transplanted into a 15gal dirt bag (hydrofarms smart pot version) and let her veg for about a week or two to green up and get her health back then i went into 12/12

feeling the fabric pot it feels pretty solid, so maybe it fully bound again and possibly suffocating its self, or maybe i need to mess with the pot pushing on it to shift the dirt inside to allow air flow and loosen the dirt?
 
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i could try transplanting, but transplanting out of a 15gal fabric pot i could see being a pain, and not to mention my tops are only few inches from my hood.

i could put outside and build a greenhouse for her..problem still being its late july and theres still over 14hours or about 14hrs of day. my outdoor crop has pre flowers, but not flowering yet..so i dunno if shes gonna remain flowering or stress out and try to revert to veg?
 
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google it..they're pretty cool

its a pot thats made out of fabric that allows more airflow tot he root system, and air prunes roots when they hit the edge instead of allowing them to run down the side to spiral on the bottom

basically you get a much larger, denser root system

problem so far im seeing though is once they fill out it appears you get issues like mine. so they work but as long as you finish in a pot bigger than you think you need
 
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S33K

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isn't everyone?

The bigger the roots, the bigger the fruits :bigjoint:

Roots are your most important part of your plant. Their health, their environment, their size, all play a key role in the direct growth, size, health, and flower size of the plant above.
 
max316420

max316420

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Start doing some research on mycos... I just started using it and its fuckin nuts, I WILL NEVER NOT USE IT AGAIN. It usually takes 2-3 weeks to get my ladies up to the size i wanna to flower them but after introducing mycos, it took 10 days and they are healthier then I have ever seen them. Wish I would have knew about this shit years ago
 
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