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DoobieBrother

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It a little bit of a read, but these are the known facts on light as we know physics to exist in our tiny plane of existence:

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/refln/u13l1d.cfm

**keep in mind that the direction arrows used in the illustraions do not indicate the sinoidal waveforms of the light which, as DST stated, can cancel out/mute waves of opposite (or near opposite) phases

Also, light is a wave and a particle
;-)
 

DST

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no worries, I didn't think you meant it as some sort of all encompassing statement, hehe, sometimes I can just be a tad Dry with my posts. PArt of my humour I guess, or lack of it.
All my bulbs are vertical...I must be failing, lol. :(
just for the record..i DON'T KNOW for a fact..didn't mean it that way...im just sure that they grow better with a reflector directing it..every book I've read has said a reflector is important and the bulb should be horizontal
 

DoobieBrother

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limit to three in the band....or they could be the backing singers......"The Three-chomes."
Or the main band could be THC, and the three back up singers/maracas/tambourine/triangle/glockenspielers can be "The Tri-chomes"
"THC and The Tri-chomes"
"Dirty Bong and The Tri-chomes"
"Bong Water and The Tri-chomes"
"Skunkbud and The Tri-chomes"
etc?
 

DST

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Guess that makes me a bitch ass Tri-chome:), Woohoo, first music band I have been in. So whens rehearsal?...."DST runs off to dust down his Triangle and glockenspiel."
 

stuckonsticky

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Verticle with no reflectors? I guess im wrong...the place i got the info was the course book for oaksterdam u...but alt of this stuff gets contradicted...fifteen years ago we didn't even know about 12/12...i bet now that people are more able through law changes or whatever..able to grow more safe well learn alt in the next ten years...i know a place in Massachusetts just mapped out the entire chemistry of marijuana for the first time..so change is.coming..
Maybe i should buy another bulb to hang between my plants to fattened up the lower buds
 

DoobieBrother

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No, D, you would be playing "the Death Tri" or the "Waffenspiel":
DST ain't no one's bitch but Mrs. DST's bitch
;-)

[video=youtube;DCrDuGyZ6FA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCrDuGyZ6FA[/video]

fuckin' love Jules
 

genuity

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Guess that makes me a bitch ass Tri-chome:), Woohoo, first music band I have been in. So whens rehearsal?...."DST runs off to dust down his Triangle and glockenspiel."
thats some funny shit....realy am laughing.

"bitch ass tri-chome"
 

DST

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no reflectors and vertical......double fail...or not: some pics of how my cab can look from time to time (this was a while back):


Verticle with no reflectors? I guess im wrong...the place i got the info was the course book for oaksterdam u...but alt of this stuff gets contradicted...fifteen years ago we didn't even know about 12/12...i bet now that people are more able through law changes or whatever..able to grow more safe well learn alt in the next ten years...i know a place in Massachusetts just mapped out the entire chemistry of marijuana for the first time..so change is.coming..
Maybe i should buy another bulb to hang between my plants to fattened up the lower buds
 

DoobieBrother

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The only thing reflector is for is to reflect light that is directed away from the growing plants.
In horizontal bulb it is a way to bounce the light back down into the canopy.
In doing this reflection, energy is lost and there is a small shift in the light spectrum (negligible amount, but a nanometer here and a nanometer there adds up).
Going vertical without a reflector lets the light stream out in all directions (not including the base where light is obscured by the metal base assembly).
With plants clusters around, they are getting more pure light than they would have with a horizontal light equipped with a reflector.
The surfaces of he walls only play a part in that they can scavenge as much light as possible to redirect some of it back to the leaves before too much energy is lost.
But the strength of reflected light diminishes even more rapidly than light not reflected, whether it is diffused or specular.

**edit:
Speaking of which:

Since the strength of light diminishes as a function of a square based on distance, has anyone tried one of these bulbs yet?
http://www.growlightsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_60_71&products_id=166


If the bulb in a typical hood is 6-inches from the reflector, then it has already traveled at least 12-inches just to make it out of the reflector hood.
By having the reflector integrated into the bulb, theoretically, there should be stronger light (1-inch to the reflector, instead of 6-inches).
 

shnkrmn

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Why do I think I would burn myself within 3 minutes of working with that? lol. I am not a small man.

Although I can see where the thermal chimney effect would be great for dissipating heat.
 

DST

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hey shank, you mean my vertical tower? I can put my hand on those tubes without burning myself. Can't wait until I get my 200mm 8 inch cool tubes!!! Should be getting sent out in the next week, Mr Chung is fixing them up as I type, lol.
Why do I think I would burn myself within 3 minutes of working with that? lol. I am not a small man.

Although I can see where the thermal chimney effect would be great for dissipating heat.
I hope with these beasts I can have my face resting against the tubes permanently.
 

shnkrmn

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Oh, okay, then I'd elbow a pot off a shelf and onto the plants below, or something. Sorry, I'm in a pessimistic mood, or something.

What's the advantage of the 8 inch tube if they are already cool enough to touch?

I'm cooling three lights in hoods with a single 454cfm fan at the moment. I really need to reorient the lights so the are lined up; my ducting is too bendy right now with the lights side by side, the last one is warm to the touch and the 1K in the middle isn't as cool as I'd like.
hey shank, you mean my vertical tower? I can put my hand on those tubes without burning myself. Can't wait until I get my 200mm 8 inch cool tubes!!! Should be getting sent out in the next week, Mr Chung is fixing them up as I type, lol.


I hope with these beasts I can have my face resting against the tubes permanently.
 

stuckonsticky

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Wow that's a very very cool set up..i see how you can fit.more plants in there.by stacking em up...now what if the bulb was horizontal would that be wasted light?..
 

jigfresh

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So when it the Club 600 band forming?? Remember my Triangle skills will always come in useful!!! I always liked smashing it up with the glockenspiel as well (what a great word!!!!)
i play a wicked cowbell..
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if you want to see the cowbell video without the crazy annoying ringing in your ear:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80542959/

While having fun I found another video that reminded me of a post yesterday.
Like a Bo$$
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And this is just funny to me:

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jigfresh

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Hey D... your grow may be a double fail, but at least you are in good company. ;) We just pulling your leg stuckonsticky. Personally I don't think horizonatal or vertical are better than one or the other... just how you do things. Me and D got small footprint, tall spaces... so it's either grow in a flat space of say 7-9 sq.ft... or open things up going vert giving us like 30-40 sq.ft of canopy space to work with. Horizontal light in a vert setup would be a waste in most cases, just like a vert bulb in a horizontal setup would be a waste in most cases. The other thing I love about vert is being able to surround the bulb. I only have 3 sides ocuppied, but I like that better than 1 side of the bulb. does that make sense there, I hope so.

Here's the plants as they are now. About 1.5 weeks left. Banana OG and Larry OG. Oh, and I've stopped freaking out about using HCO products. Don't get me wrong, I'll never use again... But, I don't think I'm going to die. I only use 1 ml/gal of gravity one time in each grow. And the bushmaster I use 2.5 ml/gal for only 24 hours, once a grow (when I use it, only 3 grows). So I don't think too much carsinogens got into the final product. And while sitting at a traffic light thinking about it yesterday I remembered how many cigarrettes I used to smoke, how much liquor I used to drink, how much acid, ecstacy, and coke I put in me. Not to mention years of eating taco bell, jack in the box, and weinerschnitzel... I think all that shit will kill me long before my herb. But like I said... I will never mess with the shit again. I guess I'll just throw the bottles away... I don't feel right selling or giving them away. Here... have some cancer.

Last thing. I said it was cooler here. I'm so stoked, the closet is at 79 f with lights on. Three days ago it was 94 f. I bet the heat had a lot to do with why the plants are so small. That's another thing bugging me, like you were saying whodat, i've been gettin gdown on myself because of this grow. Wife's on a money tear, and said if we don't make $x on this grow, I shouldn't do another one for a while. So I'm stressing hoping I get at least what I need, to get the ok from the boss. I am no ones bitch... except mrs. jigs, lol. Ain't that the fucking truth. But I'll tell you what. It is really awesome having a happy marriage and a happy wife.







Some sort of deficiency I've never had before. But I'm not too worried... almost chop time. And I did look for pests and saw no eveidence.


And this poor little buddy... I took a pic to show you how vicious coons can be. I still remember the schreeks, fuck I'll never forget them, when this guy and his siblings got into it. His 3 siblings chased this one up a tree and they fought up there, with the end result being this guy shunned from the family and left with a horrible looking bloody stump where his tail was. It has since healed, but buddy still has no tail. Sad.
 

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DST

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Sometimes you just have those moments:

After having an argument with my mate, telling him I couldn't talk to him when he was being so stupid I headed off to the pub to meet my wife. Not only do I get to drink delicious 8% IPA organic, unfiltered, unpasteurised beer, I also took along my Club 600 Judges spoon for a cheeky little pipeski chief on the side. We sat at a bench and got pissed off with some dudettes from Middle Earth that where smoking Glamour cigarettes (thin and ill looking prostitute fags) so we moved and quickly discovered there were no other seats to sit at (it was a beer garden). So we planked ourself next to 3 Moroccan guys on the ground that were also smoking cigs but at least we were not getting it in the face. The wife left to go to the shops to get our dinner and I stayed and had another beer, of course. I got back to my spot and fired up the spoon. Next thing I know I am passing it round the Moroccan guys. Then one of them pulls this thing out of his pocket, that I can only describe as a "blonde brick". Hello I thought...Zit er mooi uit, I commented, Next thing I know we are passing round my pipe filled with lovely earthy florally hashish. Then the guys starts picking bits off and giving them to me....and a little bit more. This was after I told him I was from Scotland, lol. So I ended up going home with a nice buzz and about a gram of hash in my pocket to try. What a nice turnaround!!!!

If normal human beings meet normal human beings, there tends to be love and friendship. Involve a punk ass politician, leader, ruler in there....then you got WAR!
 
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