So you are proposing that the terrorists conveniently opened a window while traveling 500 mph and tossed the passports out ehh? Can you prove the passports were found before the collapse? Not that it really matters to me, it's simply that you find nothing wrong with how unlikely the entire situation is that doesn't work for me.
That debris has a long time to eject, I am talking about a plane that was one whole piece and a split second later was a thousand pieces embed deep inside a building followed momentarily by a fireball.
To believe two passports made it out of their container (luggage, pants pocket, suitcase) then somehow survived the initial impact and following fire ball to proceed to just slowly drift to the ground is absolute gullibility on your part sir.
Your third point is redundant, the 2.3 trillion is plenty of motive for any small organization. At that point I'm not convinced the government did have a part in this but some other party could've and the government could've simply failed to follow up with a sustaining and irrefutable investigation.
^ I know you'll argue the investigations you refer to are "foul" proof but I don't agree when so many Americans disagree.
4. I've been thinking about this one.
You would have to rely on the fire's burning completely even through the entire building to soften up every single steel girder to fail almost simultaneously. Not to mention that the building had considerably more damage at one corner than the opposite corner yet still somehow the entire building collapsed into itself a split second after the affected corner began to collapse.
reasons it through your head all you want I have come to surmise that unless those fires burned consistently and evenly through the entire structure across entire floors and multiple floors that building should not have collapsed into it's own foot pring in the same fashion as a demo'd building does.
The whole "pull it" argument is conjecture and I won't address that, of course the guy wanted to get his fireman from a building that appeared unstable. regardless of what me or you believe's the cause to me, he had to watch out for his men's lives.
I have a feeling debating with you is going t be like trying to explain Austrian economics to the White House. Pointless.
Other "items" please explain .
How did you see it that 9/11 families aren't involved or that Professors with Ph.D's in physics and engineering as well retired Air Force Lieutenants are lacking" of expertise in these subjects?
The only thing glaring is that the building fell into itself against the path of most resistance from the inside out. So why don't you school me in physics while your at it?
Formula's with proven data would be the best way to reinforce your argument there.
I have thought about the welding done on these towers to produce such spheres and for me the jury is still out on that one, I need to see the elemental profile of weld splatters compared side by side by side to the iron rich spheres found in the dust and spheres produced from thermitic reactions before I get conclusive there.
Did you find any experiment like that done on your debunking sites? If they did that the results could really push the train of thought one way or the other on this issue at hand.
Like I said, jury is still out on this one.
That was a good read you posted, glad I picked up some more knowledge there and I'm glad there was quotes from both sides of the fence there but it's contradicting, I didn't see a clear trend, just quotes of some people saying on thing and others saying another.
My claims are admittedly contradictory but here's the scenarios.
You have shitty pilots managing to pull off a 330 degree turn with a fully loaded 737, plane out and fly mere feet from the ground to crash into the only reinforced side of the pentagon.
You have trained pilots managing to pull off a 330 degree turn with a fully loaded 737, plane out and fly mere feet from the ground to crash into the only reinforced side of the pentagon.
My questions is how did they manage to get such certifications with such contradicting quotes from each side? Sure the flight school was in 2000 but do you seriously expect a civilian level pilot to gain enough skills to pull a of maneuver that is admittedly difficult even for Air Force pilots with many hours experinece and slam into the only part of the Pentagon meant for a plane attack which caused the least damage?
Next scenarios :
You have lousy pilots flying at a 45 degree descent into the pentagon causing damage to multiple rings of the pentagon where more sensitive operations occur.
You have trained pilots flying at a 45 degree descent into the pentagon causing damage to multiple rings of the pentagon where more sensitive operations occur.
My question I pose to you is if they were trained enough to have the rudimentary skills to pull of the pentagon strike why didn't they have the brains to crash into the building from above?
Also, why is it do you think the Pentagon doesn't have any other video of the incident released? Do you believe the Pentagon had no other security cameras point at that side of the lawn that captured the plane? Why don't they release such video if there is nothing to hide? That's fishy my friend.
Whatever it was it was enough for the government to seal it off and not allow any cameras near it, if it was paper why would that do that?
Good video at the end, no sensationalism. BUT I am completely uneasy until the other security footage is released. Why is it that our government would use such an unclear, unfocused and partially blocked video for footage when they must have had better angles of the event.
Rebuttal.
