stuccodude
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is this the way to grow, seen a guy on youtube that had a amazing plant only a couple months old. dont see much talk about it here?
deep water culture
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only heard a bit about looks like it's the way to grow.my next set up is going to be dwc.seems to be alot easyer doing dwc don,t have to worrie about the pump fucking up,but you do have to watch them getting to much water.but i'm new to all this only 29 days into my plants.sorry i can't be more help but i saw the youtube clip that you was going on about,fucking nice plant lol
Penyajo
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When I started growing I started with DWC. I have also grown in soil aswell. The main diff is the speed thT your plant will grow. In soil it will be much slower than DWC. As for worrying about you water getting to high. You don't have to worry. You put water in your Rez to the lvl you want it. No more water goes in till u put it in. So I don't know what te post above me was about. STAY HIGH!!
funkyskunky
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dwc is simple good for begginers
legallyflying
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DWC can easily and cheaply set up. I however, would NEVER steer a beginner towards DWC. You need to have a hell of a bigger knowledge base and diagnostic ability when growing DWC. You need to give the plant PRECISELY what it wants when it wants it. If you can' rattle off different nutrient deficiencies and what they look like I would think twice about DWC.
just my 2 cents.. from a guy that has grown outdoors and indoors with soil, ebb/flow, and DWC(and I'm not talking about growing in a box inside a closet with CFL's either.
just my 2 cents.. from a guy that has grown outdoors and indoors with soil, ebb/flow, and DWC(and I'm not talking about growing in a box inside a closet with CFL's either.
Penyajo
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I don't know if I would totally agree. I started with DWC for my first grow. I used flora nova series nutes. Even as a beginner it was very easy for me. I set my PH @ 5.7 and change out Rez every 4 days. As long as you are dedicated to your research and are confident in your knowledge. You could pull a DWC off very easy. Just read up about before you go buying some expensive system. Because you can build a nice one for around 40$. STAY HIGH!!
legallyflying
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I dunno man. With a solid knowledge base it can be done. hell some beginners start with aeroponic systems. I guess if you are only growing a couple small plants and you did your homework it wouldn't be a problem. When I started out, EVERYONE told me to start with soil. Of Course I went ahead and started using an ebb/flow system but it also came with some stressfull lesons.
BeaverHuntr
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I started in DWC and I did encounter deficiencies and nutrient burn etc etc , its a very easy set up but new growers have to understand the maintenance involved with it and how important it is to have cool water temps in DWC. Alot of beginners dont think you need cool water in DWC and then they get the slime. Anyone can do DWC but man does it throw you a lot of problems and you really have to monitor your garden and water daily..If you know you get lazy at time dont do DWC. I always tell DWC beginners " keep that water 70 degrees and lower!"
golddog
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legallyflying
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Dude, you should see my DWC chiller in action. Its soo fucking money! It only runs a total of 3 hours a day and keeps the entire system between 65 and 68.
Gotta love automation.
UnderCurrentDWC
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A link would be nice when asking people to check something out, I'd love to see it!
legallyflying
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Well. It's only applicable to people running who have a Rez with their dwc setup. I took an ebb and grow setup and just reversed the timer so instead of the buckets being mostly empty, they are mostly full. All the DwC buckets empty into the Rez three times a day for 15 min.
This let's me adjust the ph of all the buckets, chill all the water at once, and also helps stabilize ppm because when the buckets are full there is still 20 gallons or so left in the Rez.
So basically the automated chiller setup is thus: ( it cost me a total of $107).
Make a chilling unit from a craigist dehu. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/453857-cheap-effective-diy-water-chiller.html
Now that chiller cools water in a small cooler. There is a small small pump in the cooler which pumps the cold water through a 3/8 hose, through a stainless coil (wort chiller), an back to the cooler thus
Cooling my Rez water.
I have the dehu and pump on a timer synced with the timer on the buckets.
Four times a day this happens:
12:00. Dehu and pump turn on, chilling the Rez water. It runs for approximately 30 minutes and will chill the Rez to about 60 degrees.
12:30. The dwc buckets drain into the Rez. That water was about 75 before implementing the system. Now it's around 70. The warm bucket water hits the cold Rez water and mixes. The resulting temp is around 65. I ph the water and record ppm. The chiller and pump are still running.
12:45. The chiller shuts off and the bucket timer kicks in filling the buckets with freshly ph'd cold water.
Tadah..
One thing however is that the chiller is so effective you have to adjust the chiller timer because compared to no chiller at all.. The bucket water coming back to be chilled gets colder and colder. (b/c it is colder on the buckets). So what happens is that over the course of a couple days the water gets progressively colder and colder and colder. I only ran that dehu about 3-4 hours a day and I'm running hot veg room (80s) and the water was 62 degrees!
I would post a whole thread but the water chiller thread I started got completely dickered up by some hard headed thinks he knows it all douchebag. To the point that I had the mods clean it up. Anyways, that is what I'm doing.
This let's me adjust the ph of all the buckets, chill all the water at once, and also helps stabilize ppm because when the buckets are full there is still 20 gallons or so left in the Rez.
So basically the automated chiller setup is thus: ( it cost me a total of $107).
Make a chilling unit from a craigist dehu. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/453857-cheap-effective-diy-water-chiller.html
Now that chiller cools water in a small cooler. There is a small small pump in the cooler which pumps the cold water through a 3/8 hose, through a stainless coil (wort chiller), an back to the cooler thus
Cooling my Rez water.
I have the dehu and pump on a timer synced with the timer on the buckets.
Four times a day this happens:
12:00. Dehu and pump turn on, chilling the Rez water. It runs for approximately 30 minutes and will chill the Rez to about 60 degrees.
12:30. The dwc buckets drain into the Rez. That water was about 75 before implementing the system. Now it's around 70. The warm bucket water hits the cold Rez water and mixes. The resulting temp is around 65. I ph the water and record ppm. The chiller and pump are still running.
12:45. The chiller shuts off and the bucket timer kicks in filling the buckets with freshly ph'd cold water.
Tadah..
One thing however is that the chiller is so effective you have to adjust the chiller timer because compared to no chiller at all.. The bucket water coming back to be chilled gets colder and colder. (b/c it is colder on the buckets). So what happens is that over the course of a couple days the water gets progressively colder and colder and colder. I only ran that dehu about 3-4 hours a day and I'm running hot veg room (80s) and the water was 62 degrees!
I would post a whole thread but the water chiller thread I started got completely dickered up by some hard headed thinks he knows it all douchebag. To the point that I had the mods clean it up. Anyways, that is what I'm doing.
VoidObject
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It's funny how these threads always turn into something else ^^
Besides that, I DID NOT start DWC and I STILL had my fair share of issues.. and a lot of them could have easily been avoided if I had the funds to get the equipment I want..
It is, however, my first SERIOUS hydroponic experience. Soil or outdoor.. just doesn't compare. DWC is A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK!
Besides that, I DID NOT start DWC and I STILL had my fair share of issues.. and a lot of them could have easily been avoided if I had the funds to get the equipment I want..
It is, however, my first SERIOUS hydroponic experience. Soil or outdoor.. just doesn't compare. DWC is A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK!
nog
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it is a lot of work, i agree,
stuccodude
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Im new here and actually sterted this thread in the indoor gardening forhum not knowing there was a forham just for DWC. i love this site and appreciate everything i learn. i am into saltwater fish tanks and it seems very similiar, i love it. after this soil run is done im going dwc so expect a couple questions. theres a guy on youtube that shows you step by step and his plants for the age are amazing, talking about a half pound from 1 plant indoors in a few months. with cfl's i think. i might be getting carried away, lates all.
legallyflying
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The best lesson you cab learn from here is that there is allot of bullshit on YouTube. It's basically like free TV but with nobody to filter the content.
If you learn WHAT is going on in terms of physiology and microbiology of plants and WHY they are showing or acting certain ways, then the how to grow part comes fairly easy.
If your constantly trying to learn HOW to grow without putting your time in learning what and why, I guarantee you will run into problems. Every situation is different as are all the strains and Phenos. Mimicry is good but don't decide how to grow from one guys grow.
But yeah, DWC is a race car and race cars are high maintenance.
If you learn WHAT is going on in terms of physiology and microbiology of plants and WHY they are showing or acting certain ways, then the how to grow part comes fairly easy.
If your constantly trying to learn HOW to grow without putting your time in learning what and why, I guarantee you will run into problems. Every situation is different as are all the strains and Phenos. Mimicry is good but don't decide how to grow from one guys grow.
But yeah, DWC is a race car and race cars are high maintenance.
BeaverHuntr
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It is a lot of work. If you dont do RDWC man its a back breaker if you are doing more than 3 plants. Kills every other way of growing in veg though.
legallyflying
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I would highly highly highly suggest hooking all your buckets to a central rez. Picking up the plants to check the condition of each bucket? Fuck that noise. Amazing veg though, hopefully amazing flowering as well. I'm going to flip my 12 in about two more weeks. 70 sq ft of scrog filled buds 
I may accidentally go over my legal weight limit ...but only by like 500%
I may accidentally go over my legal weight limit ...but only by like 500%
jesicalorren
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i been doin soil for the last yr or so and i just started dwc in a 18 gal rubbermaid tub with 10 babes on each . i set up 2 tubs with 10 sites each for about $80 . thats including a pump with 2 air outlets . i veged for a month and they took off way faster that soil . the leaves even feel alot softer and healthyer. it sux haveing to change out water tho. i got 6 18 gal tubs and at water change i have to dip it out with a bucket and fill the same way ... thats dumping 18 or so 5 gal buckets then filling with 18 . thats alot of work so think about an easy way to drain and fill them .. try to not be carrying buckets like my dumb ass. BUT you get 10 nice plants in the same space u could only put 2 5 gal buckets. im in the beg of second week of flower. i hope to put up some pics soon hope this helps.
legallyflying
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Just install a valve in the bottom of the tubs with some hose on it so you can empty into a bucket. Then mix your nutes in a 50 gallon barrel, PH, then use a small pump and hose to walk around the room and fill your totes.