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Lucius Vorenus

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MasterS said:
Oh I love Attitude for an online seed-bank! They are the Walmart of seeds lol

I would just prefer getting them in person from a breeder I know. I can see how my comment could be misconstrued.
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Do you think that if you ordered GreenHouse strains from them you would be getting less of a product than going direct from Greenhouse? Just curious what the deal is with Attitude.
 
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IVIars

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Do you think that if you ordered GreenHouse strains from them you would be getting less of a product than going direct from Greenhouse? Just curious what the deal is with Attitude.
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I think you should buy and grow every greenhouse strain, so you can leave the good genetics to others
 
fatboyOGOF

fatboyOGOF

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IVIars said:
I think you should buy and grow every greenhouse strain, so you can leave the good genetics to others
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i got at least two very good genetics from greenhouse; super silver haze and white rhino. i think i have another but can't think of it at the moment. i bought them years ago though. what's your beef with greenhouse?
 
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irieie

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fatboyOGOF said:
i got at least two very good genetics from greenhouse; super silver haze and white rhino. i think i have another but can't think of it at the moment. i bought them years ago though. what's your beef with greenhouse?
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Mr Nice Seedbank: Shantibaba explains what happened when a Welshman, two Australian cannabis breeders, and the best selection of old and new world cannabis varieties shared a small room.
Howard Marks (Mr Nice) and I (Shantibaba) met during the late 1990's while I was living and working in Holland. A few years previously (1995), I had set up the Greenhouse Seed Company. Coincidentally, at the same time, Howard was released from a lengthy imprisonment in the USA. During the next few years, we became very good friends and with the success of my breeding work and help from Neville Schoenmaker (the father of Dutch Seed banks), Howard and I discussed the possibility of working together. We decided to start a seed company to help growers throughout the world. Neville and I were already working together on various seed projects, growing and supplying certain strains to coffee shops as well as changing the uses and perceptions of cannabis.
In 1998, when Neville co-owned the Greenhouse coffeeshop in the Red Light Area, and I co-owned and worked the Greenhouse Seed co (since establishing it in 1994)...we decided to really try that year to do our best at the HTCC. Until then, Neville and I, operating as individuals, had won almost every prize awarded for cannabis breeding. On behalf of Greenhouse, we blitzed the 1998 HTCC, winning every prize other than that awarded for clothing. We came first and second in the overall HTCC. I did not particularly like the event so decided to retire from it that year. Coincidentally my relationship with my Dutch partner deteriorated, and egos went crazy. As a result, I sold my interest in the Greenhouse Seed Company and, as a sole trader, set up Mr Nice Seedbank (MNS), which has always been and remains a Dutch company. Shortly afterwards, Neville also forego his interest in Greenhouse. MNS never entrusted plants to non-growers, including our ex-Dutch partners. Inevitably, confusion results when different companies use the same names for different sub-species, so MNS renamed them all. Seed companies' most valuable assets are the original mother and father plants, which take many years to collect and select. Every seed company uses strains from particular parts of the world, but they differ greatly. MNS uses a collection of both Neville and Shantibaba's plants, the most pedigreed cannabis plants ever bred. We established MNS, with its forty parent plants, to make strains and seeds available to all levels of growers in order to help them help us spread the genetic diversity of this miraculous plant.
Rather than joining any seed companies' bandwagon by merely chasing money, Neville, Howard, and I dedicated our efforts to make old and new world seeds available for growers. We did not care how many seeds we sold or whether we had a profile in the limelight. We are daily users of cannabis, and the mother and father plants Neville and I have kept alive for the last twenty years are capable of producing every currently existing strain.
In 1999, Dutch law changed and no longer permitted the production of seeds. Due to the Dutch gedogen law, however, selling seed imported from another country remained legal. We wanted to fulfil our project without breaking any country's laws. Accordingly, MNS moved its growing operations to Switzerland, where the law permits growing cannabis for seed production. Many Dutch seed companies lost plants, mother rooms, and seed crops, but in Switzerland, MNS seed production blossomed.

Neville remained in Holland and continued to produce seeds and refine breeding techniques. Howard pursued his cannabis legalisation agenda by writing articles, books, and doing stand up shows. I established Gene Bank Technology in the Swiss canton of Ticino, producing strains and seeds for other companies, as well as furthering the use of cannabis as a medicine and producing unique flower essential oils for the cosmetic industry. All went well, with Ticino eventually playing host to the legally permitted establishment of over seventy growing shops and countless farms producing seeds. The Swiss authorities regularly inspected the premises and the activities taking place, tenaciously collecting any taxes due. Then suddenly, in 2003, without any hint of a warning, a Ticino based Prosecutor launched Operation Indoor, an avalanche of arrests, closures and headlines. The Ticino authorities seized GBT, shut it down, and imprisoned scores of innocent people. To this day, a state of confusion exists in Switzerland as cantons interpret Swiss law whichever way the local politicians want. I received a two-year term of imprisonment in Ticino. (However, I still have all the mother and father plants.) Only a handful of other seed producers have faced the courts, and hundreds of cases remain unresolved.
The lack of union and cooperation among the various seed companies and the consequent frustration for the grower is an unfortunate aspect of this particular industry. To overcome the problem MNS has consistently maintained a visible presence on various helpdesks, directly interacting, testing, and researching with the growers of its products. Some other seed companies do the same. This site is an attempt to set an appropriate standard, and MNS hopes to bring to the seed industry other like-minded companies from all different sections of this sub culture. Our sincere aim is to help people, wherever they are, who have worked or intend to work with any MNS product. I will monitor the site with the explicit intention of promoting interaction and constructive criticism among growers of all levels. It will become an online archive and an educational site for anyone who visits. The site will not be selling seeds or dispatching them but will, if asked, provide links to those interested in this aspect. Live and let live will be the central theme flowing through the MNS site, so please join in if you have something to share or ask. You are all welcome.
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Do you think that if you ordered GreenHouse strains from them you would be getting less of a product than going direct from Greenhouse? Just curious what the deal is with Attitude.
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Attitude is basically a middle man. All they do is buy from the breeder and mark up their product and sell it to us. All my green house seeds came in the original packaging from Green House. They are just a distributor they dont breed or mess around with the seeds.
 
MasterS

MasterS

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Also I wasn't talking about ordering from a breeder who sells to the masses. I mean a local, seed keeping, strain mixing, genetically diverse crop making fuck. Like ol' fatboy's horde of seeds there. haha
 
MasterS

MasterS

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First 2 are Kushberry clones, one took off much better than the other. The third picture is the 2 Pineapple Kush mothers. They are very uniform, branching is perfectly symmetrical even growth. The picture shows my first attempt at soil in 5 years and the slowness and lack of knowledge on my part told me that I'm sticking with trying soil for other plants first :P I used subcool's super soil. The Pineapple kush loooove the crap but the other ones didn't. I've labled the clones by phenotype and want to veg them so I have a mother of each so by the time these flowering girls show a difference in trait I can know which to stick with. Growth wise they look identical, one is a few inches taller but the pot is a little bigger as well. 3.3gallon pot vs the 2.9 gallon pot. Only thing I can attribute to the growth difference. For soil pot size is important. Even in hydro I flood in 2.9 gallon pots. Smaller pots had massive root growth exploding out of it but the 2.9 gives them enough for my set up.
 
Bird Gymnastics

Bird Gymnastics

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Looking good man. Those kushberry look mighty small compared to the genetics we have. I'll post some pictures later to show you what I mean. The kush berry I have is only 2 weeks into veg off of clones. Nice work masters. Hope everything works out for ya :)
 
MasterS

MasterS

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Yeah they took off slow, I was in the process of a move so they spent 3 weeks rooted as clones without being in a system. Just foliar fed. I associated that with stunted growth.
 
kmksrh21

kmksrh21

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A close up of my ak47 entering week 4.
This plant wast topped, close up of one of four main colas...
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I don't know if ak47 is a AZ strain...

But I'm working on making it one... :weed::-P
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

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Heres some updated pics of Larry OG, Blue Dream, Lavender , Pot of Gold, Orange, LA Confidential...bongsmilie They are pretty much ready to flower I just want to take some clones first and I'm now waiting for Pot of Gold , LA Confidential and Orange to catch up I started those 3 a few weeks behind the other ones.
 

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