The great thermite debate.

ginjawarrior

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first of all hot isnt molten molten is a term look it up i never made any comment on physics and thermo dynamics, which i assume you kow nothing about, with comments like " . . . hot and shit" you sound very convicing here is some reading for you

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/thermodynamics-t_36.html im sure you wont understand this either

modern steel is made with a process chuckles one of the ingredients is heat, go make anything you want leave a crucial step out and see what happens
my only arguement about the steel is that there were suitable conditions for natural furnaces to occour

none of that needs an assay of the steel composition so what ever point you were trying to make doesnt mean shit
 

NoDrama

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im at my parents on my mother comp i hasn't got spell check

noted tho that you have absolutly nothing to attack but my spelling....

is that an equivalent to a white flag, have you given up being a truther, do you finally after 10 years realise how you have wasted that part of your life...?
The computer doesn't need spell check, if you use a browser it has one built in. And I'm not attacking your spelling, I'm attacking your mental capacity to remember how letters are put together to form words. If your words are misspelled and become other words, how are we supposed to know?
 

ginjawarrior

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The computer doesn't need spell check, if you use a browser it has one built in. And I'm not attacking your spelling, I'm attacking your mental capacity to remember how letters are put together to form words. If your words are misspelled and become other words, how are we supposed to know?
3 posts later and still nothing but an attack on spelling...

i'll ask again is this you giving up on being a twoofer?
 

NoDrama

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3 posts later and still nothing but an attack on spelling...

i'll ask again is this you giving up on being a twoofer?
what's a twoofer, is that like a subwoofer? Know of anyone who shares in your theory of a crumbled fallen building turning into a foundry?
 

ginjawarrior

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what's a twoofer, is that like a subwoofer? Know of anyone who shares in your theory of a crumbled fallen building turning into a foundry?
let me spell this out for you very simply

fire + insulation + oxygen = much hotter fire

check back thru this thread i have mentioned this before and other people agree

tell you what lets hear some good reasons from you why it wouldnt work ?
 

Mr Neutron

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funny i thought you asked that before...
If I did ask it before, this is the second time I did not receive an answer.

it seems the people who blow buildings up us the word "pull" only when they use machinery to "pull" wires attached to the top of the building to assist it falling to the side...

imagine that
A quote from your linked article: "1. A building owner would never be in a position to dictate to fire personnel or emergency workers whether his building should be “pulled” or demolished."
The author uses the term "pull" before later saying that it is not used in that context.
 

doc111

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let me spell this out for you very simply

fire + insulation + oxygen = much hotter fire

check back thru this thread i have mentioned this before and other people agree

tell you what lets hear some good reasons from you why it wouldnt work ?
My apologies, I've been dealing with a family crisis and have had little time to post. I was surprised to see Drama had posted to me after days and STILL is bringing nothing to the table in the way of evidence.

To Drama: I have never even implied that there are NO conspiracies, in fact I've even said it in this very thread that "I'm sure some things are conspiracies: This, IMO isn't one of them". You seem to ignore the lion's share of the evidence we are posting. Why is that? Is it because you might have to re-evaluate your positiong? 10 years later and still no proof of a conpiracy and very little evidence of one either. We do, however, have MOUNTAINS of evidence that suggests the events of 9/11 went down pretty much like the gubbermint says it did. Let me ask you another question; why do you think the vast majority of experts in this field don't buy the conspiracy theories? Are they all just stupid? Has the gubbermint gotten to all of them? Please, take a moment to really think before you answer these questions (Take a couple of days if you need it! lol!:-P).

To Samwell: So, you think I'm arrogant, huh? Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'm a bit puzzled. I don't get called arrogant very much by the people who know me best. In fact, I don't ever recall being called arrogant. Now, you don't know me from Adam, and know nothing about me except for what I've posted. Perhaps I am a bit arrogant. I've achieved a lot in my life and am proud of those achievements. I'm not sure why you are so insistent that there was actually "molten steel" at the WTC site. It's never been proven and it's been theorized by MANY an expert to be molten aluminum (if there was actually molten metal at all) which had picked up a bunch of shit which made it appear to be glowing yellow, appearing similar to molten steel. The glowing orange shit in the picture that the excavator is picking up????? Nobody has ever been able to say what it was but it didn't appear to be molten. There are many things which can glow red/orange and appear like steel but could be any number of things (FYI, I've seen steel become glowing red in an ordinary fire numerous times). Even if there were molten steel at the WTC, what does it prove? Does it somehow prove thermite was used? No. Does it prove anything at all in the way of some conspiracy? Nope! It doesn't prove shit, because if it did, there would be NUMEROUS people, credible experts, clamoring out of the woodwork in an attempt to get a pulitzer prize in journalism or some shit. lol! You can continue to insult my intelligence if you'd like. I've posted numerous links from credible sources which debunk many of the myths surrounding this terrible event. What have YOU brought to the table (besides insults and childish remarks with nothing to back them up)? :shock:
 

ginjawarrior

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If I did ask it before, this is the second time I did not receive an answer.



A quote from your linked article: "1. A building owner would never be in a position to dictate to fire personnel or emergency workers whether his building should be “pulled” or demolished."
The author uses the term "pull" before later saying that it is not used in that context.

notice the quotation marks around the "pulled" and the OR

he is specicially talking about the "pulled" meme and your pulling him up for quoting it

let me guess its another in the long list of people "involved" in the conspiracy....
 

doc111

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If I did ask it before, this is the second time I did not receive an answer.



A quote from your linked article: "1. A building owner would never be in a position to dictate to fire personnel or emergency workers whether his building should be “pulled” or demolished."
The author uses the term "pull" before later saying that it is not used in that context.
Not true. I've addressed the "pull it" question at least once and possibly more than that in this thread. I didn't go back to check, but here is the link:

http://debunking911.com/pull.htm
 

ginjawarrior

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If I did ask it before, this is the second time I did not receive an answer.
QUOTE]


Originally Posted by Mr Neutron
It's an incredible story, to be sure. Honestly, I cannot understand how anyone with a fair amount of curiosity and open-mindedness can buy the official version. It seems more like fantasy than any conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
The 9/11 Omission was under funded and stone walled at attempts to question key players in the Bush admin.
They also failed to address WTC 7 which was NOT hit by a plane.
Huge surges in the purchasing of put options prior to 9/11 on United and American Airlines; the companies that insured the WTC (which was privatized 6 weeks earlier); companies hurt by the attack Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, BoA; and huge purchases of 5-year Treasury notes.
Or how about the 6 or 7 hijackers that surfaced after 9/11 to say that they are not dead nor hijackers.
Or how about the 5 Israelis celebrating the fall of the towers?
Or Ghouliniani being warned of the building collapse, 10 before it happened.
Or why FEMA was dispatched to NYC on 9/10 to run disaster drills.
Or why the air defense was scheduled to simulate hijacked airplanes being flown into buildings. This, of course, followed a major change in the chain of command in the air defense mechanism, where Cheney was put in charge of all operations. How conveeeenient.
Or why was the crime scene cleaned up so quickly that a proper investigation could take place and all materials either destroyed or recycled. (all three crash sites)
Or Larry Silverstein, on camera, saying "we decided to pull it", meaning to drop building 7.
Or the massive denial campaign that followed implying that if you didn't buy into the official story, you're a terrorist.
Or how about the pools of molten steel found weeks after the attack.

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty." W



i feel like im hitting my head against a very thick brickwall here


building 7 was hit by a mother fucking giant fucking huge fucking falling fucking sky scraper


hint thats worse than a plane...

"Huge surges in the purchasing of put options prior to 9/11 on United and American Airlines; the companies that insured the WTC (which was privatized 6 weeks earlier); companies hurt by the attack Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, BoA; and huge purchases of 5-year Treasury notes."

irrelevant unless you got link to 911

"Or how about the 6 or 7 hijackers that surfaced after 9/11 to say that they are not dead nor hijackers. "

poor journalism and an over abundance of muslims with same name

"Or how about the 5 Israelis celebrating the fall of the towers?"

irrelevant got muslims celebrating across world too

"Or Ghouliniani being warned of the building collapse, 10 before it happened."

linky?

"Or why FEMA was dispatched to NYC on 9/10 to run disaster drills."

irrelevant unless you got link to 911 itself

"Or why the air defense was scheduled to simulate hijacked airplanes being flown into buildings. This, of course, followed a major change in the chain of command in the air defense mechanism, where Cheney was put in charge of all operations. How conveeeenient."

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/NORAD

"Or why was the crime scene cleaned up so quickly that a proper investigation could take place and all materials either destroyed or recycled. (all three crash sites)"

sorry but what were they searching for in 100's thousands of tons?

"Or Larry Silverstein, on camera, saying "we decided to pull it", meaning to drop building 7."

pull the fire fighters from dangerously unstable building?

"Or the massive denial campaign that followed implying that if you didn't buy into the official story, you're a terrorist."

cause the conspiracies storys are pretty damaging to some americans mentalhealth

i can attest to that personally as i have watched steady decline over last decade

"Or how about the pools of molten steel found weeks after the attack."

this ones a zinger its actually to do with wtc


got any evidence of molten steel at wtc? i warn you i got a snazzy youtube for you :P

ps if your gonna put stuff up links/evidence of your claims normally helps​

 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
I'm not even going to ask.
"specifically" ok thats my spelling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
meme (
/ˈmiːm/[1]) is "an idea, behaviour or style that spreads from person to person within a culture

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/meme

meme(meme)
Pronunciation:/miːm/
noun
  • an element of a culture or system of behaviour passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means.
  • an image, video, etc. that is passed electronically from one Internet user to another.
 

NoDrama

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WTC7 didn't have any buildings fall on it. Pieces might have struck it, but neither of the towers did. NIST already stated that fire alone caused the collapse so get this idea that there was a lot of physical damage out of your head.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
To Drama: I have never even implied that there are NO conspiracies, in fact I've even said it in this very thread that "I'm sure some things are conspiracies: This, IMO isn't one of them". You seem to ignore the lion's share of the evidence we are posting. Why is that? Is it because you might have to re-evaluate your positiong? 10 years later and still no proof of a conpiracy and very little evidence of one either. We do, however, have MOUNTAINS of evidence that suggests the events of 9/11 went down pretty much like the gubbermint says it did. Let me ask you another question; why do you think the vast majority of experts in this field don't buy the conspiracy theories? Are they all just stupid? Has the gubbermint gotten to all of them? Please, take a moment to really think before you answer these questions (Take a couple of days if you need it! lol!:-P).
Mountains? Mole hills more like.

I noticed it took you a few days to respond to my reply, did you have to take a few days to think of something good to say, or were you busy with other things?
 
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