Arizona Growers Thread

[fatboyOGOF]

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gonna cut in 6 days. looking frosty

nice looking buds. some of your leaves took a beating though!

are you going to check the trichs before you cut or just cut them on a certain number of days in flower? 7 weeks in flower. did you start counting from day one or after they showed sex? to me, and to the breeders of most genetics, those would only be about 39 days in flower if day one was when the light schedule was changed.

once i started checking the trichs, and getting a feel for what high i liked, i found that it was a very good investment. i cut anywhere from mostly clear and a few cloudy to mostly couldy with a few amber. i prefer the mostly cloudy!


1. for those of you who check the trichs, when do you guys like to cut them?

2. who checks trichs and who doesn't?

3. do you count flowering from day one of switching the lighting schedule or from when they show sex?

4. do you do something more extensive than simply checking the trichs? if so, what?

5. NO FIGHTING!

 

[BeaverHuntr]

1. I check trichs and like to look for 50/cloudy 50/amber or close to that..
2. BeaverHuntr checks for trichs with his 15 dollar microscope from radio shack its covered in sticky hash
3.I count flowering from first day of 12/12
4. Not really I do check hairs too but mostly rely on trichome look.
5. I'm a lover not a fighter.

 

[jayco420]

I harvest 1 week after sprout cure in bud candy smoke 5 min later.

 

[jayco420]

And NPK is overrated just water with kool-aid..... pick flover depended on taste of yohr bud.

 

[fatboyOGOF]

1. I check trichs and like to look for 50/cloudy 50/amber or close to that..
2. Beaverhuntr checks for trichs with his 15 dollar microscope from radio shack its covered in sticky hash
3.i count flowering from first day of 12/12
4. Not really i do check hairs too but mostly rely on trichome look.
5. I'm a lover not a fighter.

i've never gotten to more than a few amber. my genetics would take 90 days to get that far and i'm not waiting that long!

i'm a lover too but i'm packing anyway!

 

[fatboyOGOF]

I harvest 1 week after sprout cure in bud candy smoke 5 min later.

NICE!

 

[phxfire]

1. I check trichs and like to look for 50/cloudy 50/amber or close to that..

3.I count flowering from first day of 12/12

In my Opinion....
If you count flowering from day one of 12/12 I can not see having 50% ambers in trichomes.(Depends on strain) Most strains will stretch for 2-3 weeks after being under 12/12 ... That means only 5-6 full weeks of budding after stretch..

So you really need to Subtract the stretch time or you are pulling premature buds....

What strains are you running??

 

[BeaverHuntr]

In my Opinion....
If you count flowering from day one of 12/12 I can not see having 50% ambers in trichomes.(Depends on strain) Most strains will stretch for 2-3 weeks after being under 12/12 ... That means only 5-6 full weeks of budding after stretch..

So you really need to Subtract the stretch time or you are pulling premature buds....

What strains are you running??

I didnt say I harvested from the starting day of 12/12 I dont even scope my buds usually until the breeders 12/12 finishing time nears, the breeders just put faster flowering times on their seeds to make the buyers want to buy them.. I find myself usually chopping 7-15 days longer than what the breeder says or when I start seeing mostly cloudy/amber trichomes.
Strains I'm running now look to be 12 week finsihers.. Blue Dream, Lavender, and Larry OG

 

[phxfire]

I didnt say I harvested from the starting day of 12/12 I dont even scope my buds usually until the breeders 12/12 finishing time nears, the breeders just put faster flowering times on their seeds to make the buyers want to buy them.. I find myself usually chopping 7-15 days longer than what the breeder says or when I start seeing mostly cloudy/amber trichomes.
Strains I'm running now look to be 12 week finsihers.. Blue Dream, Lavender, and Larry OG

If you harvest on the first day of 12/12 there would be NO buds... I did not say thing dude...

What I am saying is that you count day 1 of the flower cycle when the lights are switched to 12/12

When you do this the plant stretches the first 2-3 weeks and then starts to flower... So that is the reason why you have to go over a week or longer... it is because the day you are counting as day 1.... Nothing wrong with it... especially if you are checking trichomes...

In My opinion... It is just a better practice.. To start day 1 of flower when the plants stop stretching and show good signs of pre flower...
I am running blue dreams.... Several harvests (3). This strain stretches for a good 3 weeks and a few days over.... If you count the day 1 when she was put under 12/12 it would take over 11 weeks to finish... But if you waited until the stretch was over it will finish in 8-9 weeks...

But just what I do..... It is alot easier to determine harvest day... All strains stretch different and will throw off the harvest day alot... Its cool just a guessing game when counting day 1 of flower at 12/12 switch...

 

[Bird Gymnastics]

i read that they were doing this. it's disgusting and it will end up in court! i can pop oxy all day and have any weapon i want! fucking senseless gubment interference as usual.

i'd advise you to back off. unless you're stupid wealthy it isn't worth it. the gubment will fuck you up. it's not a myth, the gubment is a beast with unlimited resourses and manpower to force you to do what they want. our med pot laws could be turned over next election and you'd be very high on their list of people to fuck with!

emails, letters, meetings with congress people yes, taking them to court, not so much!

jesus. you guys and the arguing.

just agree to disagree and move on like adults.

it's no fun reading with all this anger! smoke some pot and mello out for fucks sake! sheeesh!

nice looking buds. some of your leaves took a beating though!

are you going to check the trichs before you cut or just cut them on a certain number of days in flower? 7 weeks in flower. did you start counting from day one or after they showed sex? to me, and to the breeders of most genetics, those would only be about 39 days in flower if day one was when the light schedule was changed.

once i started checking the trichs, and getting a feel for what high i liked, i found that it was a very good investment. i cut anywhere from mostly clear and a few cloudy to mostly couldy with a few amber. i prefer the mostly cloudy!


1. for those of you who check the trichs, when do you guys like to cut them?

2. who checks trichs and who doesn't?

3. do you count flowering from day one of switching the lighting schedule or from when they show sex?

4. do you do something more extensive than simply checking the trichs? if so, what?

5. NO FIGHTING!

1. I like chopping at about 25% clear, 50 % milky and 25% amber ( one stop I'll look, see about 20 heads, 10 being cloudy and a mix of amber and clear...that's how I get that number)
2. I check trichromes with a 60-100x microscope. (needs to me my friend alcohol )
3. I start day one from when I switch my lights. To me the breeders give you a general idea of when they should be done. The rest is up to you.
4. Not really...usually I will go and smell it. Some of the strains just have a "finished" smell to them. Others stink the same way throughout most of the grow but I must have some unique ones. When they are finished...they literally tell me!
5. I hate fighting almost as much as I hate ignorant people

 

[BeaverHuntr]

1. I like chopping at about 25% clear, 50 % milky and 25% amber ( one stop I'll look, see about 20 heads, 10 being cloudy and a mix of amber and clear...that's how I get that number)
2. I check trichromes with a 60-100x microscope. (needs to me my friend alcohol )
3. I start day one from when I switch my lights. To me the breeders give you a general idea of when they should be done. The rest is up to you.
4. Not really...usually I will go and smell it. Some of the strains just have a "finished" smell to them. Others stink the same way throughout most of the grow but I must have some unique ones. When they are finished...they literally tell me!
5. I hate fighting almost as much as I hate ignorant people

Thats very similar to what i do, I use the breeders advertised finishing times to give me a general idea of when I should starting scoping the buds, then like you said " the rest is up to the grower"

 

[fatboyOGOF]

musical interlude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXs9-XEiDoY

"Sweet Leaf"


ALRIGHT NOW!
Won't you listen?

When I first met you, didn't realize
I can't forget you, for your surprise
you introduced me, to my mind
And left me wanting, you and your kind

I love you, Oh you know it

My life was empty, forever on a down
Until you took me, showed me around
My life is free now, my life is clear
I love you sweet leaf, though you can't hear

Come on now, try it out

Straight people don't know, what you're about
They put you down and shut you out
you gave to me a new belief
and soon the world will love you sweet leaf



this shit still gives me shivers

 

[phxfire]

Thats very similar to what i do, I use the breeders advertised finishing times to give me a general idea of when I should starting scoping the buds, then like you said " the rest is up to the grower"

If using the handy dandy microscope it doesn't matter if you count days of flower... You will be on track with this tool....

But I remember growing for the longest time without a microscope... I would imagine that beginning growers would not know the difference between a cloudy, clear, or amber trichome.... That is my reason for the way I count flower days... I usually check the trichomes the day I plan to harvest... a few times have been off a few days but for the most part I get 60% amber on top cola and around 40% on lower branches....

what I really look at is the inside of the top cola... Kind of open up a little and look... The outer trichomes will get cloudy or amber way before the inside of the colas amber... I have a buddy that almost lets the plant die before harvest....

 

[irieie]

nice looking buds. some of your leaves took a beating though!

are you going to check the trichs before you cut or just cut them on a certain number of days in flower? 7 weeks in flower. did you start counting from day one or after they showed sex? to me, and to the breeders of most genetics, those would only be about 39 days in flower if day one was when the light schedule was changed.

once i started checking the trichs, and getting a feel for what high i liked, i found that it was a very good investment. i cut anywhere from mostly clear and a few cloudy to mostly couldy with a few amber. i prefer the mostly cloudy!


1. for those of you who check the trichs, when do you guys like to cut them?

2. who checks trichs and who doesn't?

3. do you count flowering from day one of switching the lighting schedule or from when they show sex?

4. do you do something more extensive than simply checking the trichs? if so, what?

5. NO FIGHTING!

i start counting from the first day i change the lights. flowering is a multi step process that includes, budset, budding and finishing. i find that if you do everything correctly and have healthy unstressed plants and feed them the right stuff at the right time you can speed up the transition period and make the budset happen earlier, as far as the other stages of flower, it is hard to speed up. so i turned the lights for these on sept 30. that makes today the 50th day of flower. the way i determine when to harvest is usually a combination of the trich color, flowering time and overall appearance of the plant. personally i like a more heady speedy high so some might say that i harvest early. i like to cut when the trichs are mostly cloudy or opaque and are first starting to show amber with one or two still clear. the pistils must have mostly died off and receded into the calyx and the calyx has swelled significantly in size. when i grow one strain, the first time i flower it i get a feel for how it will develop and i take branches starting at about week 6 and then for each week there after. i have grown this strain before and liked it the most after 8 weeks. i will be cutting it on the 22 so that will be a total of 53 days. i am also going away for thanksgiving and want to harvest before i leave that is why it is three days early.
trichome color is not always a definitive way of knowing when your buds are done. i have seen some strains with amber trichs starting in week 6 but they had all white pistils and no swelled calyxs. i have also heard of measuring the sugar levels in the plant, apparently 3 days before ripeness (peak potency) the sugar levels drop drastically. the only hard part is doing the actual measurement. one way i have read is with a machine which wine makers use and it takes a drop of liquid. getting the drop of liquid from the plant to test is the hard part.

on another note, i have read a lot of what uncle ben has to say and have studied his philosophies about growing. i have to say that much of what he preaches is quite controversial and i do not subscribe to his school of thought. in my opinion his methods are outdated and new techniques and methods have been developed that as just as or more successful than what he preaches. also i dont think that thee guy has actually grown anything for quite some time.

 

[jcdws602]

I just eyeball it all......damn handheld microscope just collects dust in the corner.... only thing I monitor is ph and ec and even that is becoming obsolete to me, after doing this so long I pretty much know how much to add by hard....

 

[BeaverHuntr]

I just eyeball it all......damn handheld microscope just collects dust in the corner.... only thing I monitor is ph and ec and even that is becoming obsolete to me, after doing this so long I pretty much know how much to add by hard....

I;m good like that with my PH UP too, I pretty much add it my res then when I'm ready to check PH it's always at 5.8-6.1 I guess doing it so many times just makes it a lot easier.

 

[MasterS]

1. Depends on the strain really. For Sativas I cut at 25% cloudy 75% clear. Indica it's usually first signs of amber the cloudy and clear are usually mixed half and half by then. My Silver Dragon strain is a very high CBD strain and medicates best when there is a lot of amber.

2. who checks trichs and who doesn't?
I check trichs for new strains.

3. do you count flowering from day one of switching the lighting schedule or from when they show sex?
I count from the switch because it's easiest with my paperwork and it's just how I've always done it.

4. do you do something more extensive than simply checking the trichs? if so, what?
When it is new and I check trichs I compare it to the last harvest, what I harvested at and how the effects turned out. Plus if I change/test new dry and cure methods I record everything.

5. NO FIGHTING!
Fistycuffs!!!! I don't fight, I ignore because some people will go off on a tangent and if pulling them back doesn't work they aren't worth my time. Having too much arrogance to say, oh I might be wrong or inferred something wrong, is not something I tolerate.

 

[phxfire]

I just eyeball it all......damn handheld microscope just collects dust in the corner.... only thing I monitor is ph and ec and even that is becoming obsolete to me, after doing this so long I pretty much know how much to add by hard....

I add nutrients and add PH down... Check PH the next day some times... Always at 6.0

 

[Scupra]

would something like this keep temps down in my tent? I am having some heat issues now that I turned on the sun

http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/M6P09S2A.html

I found a good deal on one of these and was thinking about picking it up. I just don't want to run into more problems trying to get rid of the heat that the a/c unit will put off. thanks guys

 

[BeaverHuntr]

would something like this keep temps down in my tent? I am having some heat issues now that I turned on the sun

http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/M6P09S2A.html

I found a good deal on one of these and was thinking about picking it up. I just don't want to run into more problems trying to get rid of the heat that the a/c unit will put off. thanks guys

Yeah it should work fine just dont run co2 with one of those single hose units.. That will cool your tent in a heart beat...Honestly look for one on Craigs list, thats what I did I got my 9,000 BTU for like 100 bucks when I was growing out my closet... Have you looked into a strong fan might be cheaper something in the 300-400 CFM