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ccodiane

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SS was alright until Ronnie Reagan changed it so the surplus could spent on shit...like wars etc...just keep the repukes away from and it will work out fine...A democrat governor started tenncare and it was fine and then a 2 term republican gov.fucked it up...and now a democrat fixed it and it's fine...tell you anything...:mrgreen:
Your a Democrat?
 

Florida Girl

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I guess you really don't know much. 1st my SS check gets deposited in my bank account every month on the same day of the month like clockwork. I have no complaints. If the congress and the executive branch would have left the SS trust fund be, There would be enough money in there for your grandkids-grandkids and then some. They raid the fund yearly and put the money in the general fund with an IOU, sorry charlie, but that IOU is worthless as shit on a stick. Don't get me wrong, I hate big government and as I've said, my only use for them is my SS and medicare, as far as I'm concerned, they can kiss my rosy red ass. They are obviously doing the bidding of the corporations, and that is exactly why we don't have universal health care, although it may be why you have a job.

And yet.... you want them to be the gatekeeper of your healthcare..... HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Looks like YOU are the one who doesn't know much!
 

We TaRdED

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too bad we all cant get along. the world would be a lot better place.
all this animosity from fellow Americans, no wonder why we will never be able to unite and the government will always have us by the balls....
 

Juntistik

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And yet.... you want them to be the gatekeeper of your healthcare..... HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Looks like YOU are the one who doesn't know much!
Well at least we can attempt to hold the government responsible! insurance companies and hospitals do whatever the fuck they want to their customers ( thats what the exec's see us as, instead of patients). I honestly would rather pay out the ass in taxes like other developed nations for healthcare that is actually in line with the times. Our healthcare system sucks cock, and thats just because its more of a business than it should be. It should be about helping your fellow sick american, not raping their paycheck until they go into debt. i would gladly pay more in taxes to recieve the healthcare i need, when i need it - without going broke, as well as to see my fellow american recieving the same care.

immigration and illegal immigrants taxing the health care system is a different story, and should be dealt with after the fact

just my opinion
 

We TaRdED

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Well at least we can attempt to hold the government responsible! insurance companies and hospitals do whatever the fuck they want to their customers ( thats what the exec's see us as, instead of patients). I honestly would rather pay out the ass in taxes like other developed nations for healthcare that is actually in line with the times. Our healthcare system sucks cock, and thats just because its more of a business than it should be. It should be about helping your fellow sick american, not raping their paycheck until they go into debt. i would gladly pay more in taxes to recieve the healthcare i need, when i need it - without going broke, as well as to see my fellow american recieving the same care.

immigration and illegal immigrants taxing the health care system is a different story, and should be dealt with after the fact

just my opinion
i like your opinion :D +rep for that, if i can give it out right now....
 

ccodiane

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Well at least we can attempt to hold the government responsible! insurance companies and hospitals do whatever the fuck they want to their customers ( thats what the exec's see us as, instead of patients). I honestly would rather pay out the ass in taxes like other developed nations for healthcare that is actually in line with the times. Our healthcare system sucks cock, and thats just because its more of a business than it should be. It should be about helping your fellow sick american, not raping their paycheck until they go into debt. i would gladly pay more in taxes to recieve the healthcare i need, when i need it - without going broke, as well as to see my fellow american recieving the same care.

immigration and illegal immigrants taxing the health care system is a different story, and should be dealt with after the fact

just my opinion
How?.............This is where your argument really starts to break down.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Well at least we can attempt to hold the government responsible! insurance companies and hospitals do whatever the fuck they want to their customers ( thats what the exec's see us as, instead of patients). I honestly would rather pay out the ass in taxes like other developed nations for healthcare that is actually in line with the times. Our healthcare system sucks cock, and thats just because its more of a business than it should be. It should be about helping your fellow sick american, not raping their paycheck until they go into debt. i would gladly pay more in taxes to recieve the healthcare i need, when i need it - without going broke, as well as to see my fellow american recieving the same care.

immigration and illegal immigrants taxing the health care system is a different story, and should be dealt with after the fact

just my opinion
After what fact? After they, illegal immigrants, all get government medical, we can just take it away after we get immigration dealt with?
 

Twistyman

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ROFL... let me ask you this... why would you want the GOVERNMENT being in control of your healthcare? FUCK... they can't even manage the few programs they do run (medicare, medicaid etc.) and you want to let them have control over your healthcare? Damn... hope you never ever need more then a wellness check-up cause you will be FUCKED!

Personally I don't want to pay for someone else's healthcare... I already work to pay for my own... and THEN some! Most states already have programs in place to pay for the most needy. I work... I pay for my coverage... do I want to pay EVEN more so people who are too stupid to use birth control and spit out 10 babies they can't afford can have coverage? NO I DON'T!

This is NOT a socialist country.... but keep on holding out those hands for free cheese and it soon will be!
When exactly did this mentality of "let the government take care of me" become so acceptable???


I've worked in the industry over 15 years... I work in IT (info. tech) and no I'm not getting rich or even close off the industry. A few of my family members also work in the healthcare industry.... and no they aren't getting rich or even close either. I never said I was an "expert"... just that I've worked in it long enough to know how the system works.... yes healthcare is a CASH COW industry... because people will ALWAYS be sick and ALWAYS need care.

Healthcare isn't FREE.... and it never will be.... but letting the Government control it is tantamount to letting the wolf guard the heard of sheep.

Be careful what you wish for ;)
The gov. should care for it's people, I know they can't supply everything, but health , yes.. health
( good ) benifits society as a whole, through people working. I quess it's better to have some C.E.O make a few million dollars performance bonus for saying no to sick people. Capitilizism works........for the top 4 -5 percentile. Here if your on welfare your meds. free. dental free. transport to DR. free, x-ray free ,blood test free, hosp. room free. yeah I can see where that,s the end of the FREE world, as we know it.
:)
 

ccodiane

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The gov. should care for it's people, I know they can't supply everything, but health , yes.. health
( good ) benifits society as a whole, through people working. I quess it's better to have some C.E.O make a few million dollars performance bonus for saying no to sick people. Capitilizism works........for the top 4 -5 percentile. Here if your on welfare your meds. free. dental free. transport to DR. free, x-ray free ,blood test free, hosp. room free. yeah I can see where that,s the end of the FREE world, as we know it.
:)
No, the government should uphold the law, and protect its' citizenry. People should care for people. Charity is a beautiful thing.
 

We TaRdED

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No, the government should uphold the law, and protect its' citizenry. People should care for people. Charity is a beautiful thing.
most of the money that people donate to "charity" doesnt even go towards the people in dire need.

hence the advertising and the fat people in the commercials.
 
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