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strictly seedleSs

strictly seedleSs

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camp - Im seeing both sides of the clones debate. I dont give the cuts I have to anyone unless I really respect their growing abilities, and them. I want to see the grow room that the cuts will be in, and I want to smoke some of the cured buds they have grown. My reasons are this -
1. If someone grows a cut that I am known for, and it hits a dispensary around me and isnt up to par, then it makes it harder for me to sell the same strain (for good $$$) because the name has been tarnished.
2. I have spent alot of time and money collecting/growing my keeper strains. (this doesnt make them MY strains)
3. When a strain has proven itself, it becomes more valuable to a grower that doesnt want to spend time and money collecting/growing untested cuts.
The cuts I have are medical cali top shelf buds, and as such, they pay my bills. I have given my cuts to 2 people in Club 600, and ive sent seeds to 1 person in Club 600. The 2 guys that I have given my cuts to know that I dont want them to give them out. The only other people that I have given cuts to, I didnt "give" them. I charge $200 for the ability to buy clones from me (per strain). That might sound crazy to alot of you, but the cats that buy my clones are happy to have proven cuts right out of the gate, and they know how much they can charge for them(when dried and cured properly). If you look at DST who grows to breed, he will make money off his seeds. If I was a breeder I would share the same opinion(I think), but Im a grower for collectives and make my money on my hard to find buds. If I was to sell clones to the collectives, then my buds wouldnt make me as much $$. As there would be more growers with my cuts(as possibly lesser quality buds as I said before). None of my cuts are "MY STRAINS", I want to make that clear, just cuts I have collected.

Now when it comes to your brother giving you clones to take care of.....well the guy that says they must be killed Fd up. You have been giving life to those cuts because your bro didnt have a place to do it. Thats a big mistake for your bros friend. Why give a precious cut to someone w/o a grow room? Dont kill them, grow them out, smoke them up, and enjoy your fine work. If you feel that you shouldnt clone them, then dont. If you feel that its a great addition to your collection, then clone those ladies out.

Monsanto has spent alot of money breeding and enhancing their potatoes. Why should they give their hard work away? Maybe they should charge less for the ability to grow it, but I dont think they are in the wrong for charging customers for a product they have proven to be a hearty and vigorous plant. Im sure alot of farmers are happy to have a potato that puts up with just about anything mother nature can throw at it.

I think everyone should read the book "The Botany of Desire", or watch the cliffs notes version on PBS.

or you can watch it here-
[video=youtube_share;AHUKC8ovPzE]http://youtu.be/AHUKC8ovPzE[/video]
 
bassman999

bassman999

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I can definitely respect that point SS, at the same time several ppl have asked me for cuts of Harlequin, and as it is a highly medical CBD dominate strain (supposedly, we will see) that if I was able to give cuts out and didnt I would feel bad. This isnt the same as strain that ppl like for smell/taste/high effect though I believe.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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CampUnderDog said:
i use an ulti-lumenx 600 hps... no blue supplemental...
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geekmike said:
My point was, don't worry what the box says because it's mostly B.S. The supplemental blue addition to a standard HPS is negligible.
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Thank You CampUnderDog.

GeekMike, That's the point! Remember , I have a 1000MH IN THE FLOWER CHAMBER. So Why waste negligible extras? Just run red HPS bulbs.

That's twice we've "Beer goggled" the same point! ROFL!
 
DST

DST

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Very good points Strictly and I totally understand that view. I too would only give cuts to people I like/trust (that is a no brainer), but once they have them it's there business I guess. But for you it's a slightly different situation.

And big ole lol at DST making money from selling seeds.....may be one day in the future but until that day all I seem to do is shell out, but that makes me happy so I don't mind too much. What makes me even happier is when my weed strains get sold in coffeeshops and they sell out in the day....in fact in some instances half way through the day they get removed from the menu. Now that makes me "super trots"
 
3eyes

3eyes

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DST said:
Very good points Strictly and I totally understand that view. I too would only give cuts to people I like/trust (that is a no brainer), but once they have them it's there business I guess. But for you it's a slightly different situation.

And big ole lol at DST making money from selling seeds.....may be one day in the future but until that day all I seem to do is shell out, but that makes me happy so I don't mind too much. What makes me even happier is when my weed strains get sold in coffeeshops and they sell out in the day....in fact in some instances half way through the day they get removed from the menu. Now that makes me "super trots"
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I hope there's some left when i come over this year (maybe the last time :()
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Picked up some clones from a 6'er yesterday. Got 7 Blackberry Kush , 2 DOG Kush , 1 Banana OG. Can't wait to get things going. Thanks Dez.

I gotta say it was pretty cool hearing people ask about the Dog in the coffee shop.
 
strictly seedleSs

strictly seedleSs

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There will always be different views on what a job well done is worth. Im doing my darndest to get the BB name out, and would give out any BB strain I have for free to a grower I respect. Because I know BB isnt a corporate monster, or a seed company that will fall short of making a customer happy. They are strains that I want to see all over california menus. If good growers put them in the collectives good things can happen. I think D should be bringing something home for the work work work he has put in, maybe it takes more time then I thought. We all know how breeding is a big no no for the wallet, and I think alot of us know this because of our friends over the pond. I had dreams of being a great breeder until i saw what DST was putting into it, thats when the reality of breeding hit me. I decided to give that dream up for now. But I watched him do what he does, and Ive got 2 BB strains in a garden that has 4-5 strains max. Its not a bad thing when people make money doing what they love.
 
strictly seedleSs

strictly seedleSs

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bassman999 said:
I can definitely respect that point SS, at the same time several ppl have asked me for cuts of Harlequin, and as it is a highly medical CBD dominate strain (supposedly, we will see) that if I was able to give cuts out and didnt I would feel bad. This isnt the same as strain that ppl like for smell/taste/high effect though I believe.
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I would hook anyone up with finished buds if they needed the meds and had no money, but I wouldnt give them a clone.
 
CampUnderDog

CampUnderDog

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SS, I gotta say I completely agree that someones hard work should be rewarded. Thing is, I grew them a month, and I understand he doesn't want just ANYONE growing his strain... but he gave them to a first time grower. Was going to give him 16 clones, he ended up with 8... because the guys dog ate them. (that in itself doesn't sound very professional)... he grows in foxfarm only, and uses humboldt brand ferts. He hasn't even had HIS first real harvest off of HIS girls. He got a bunch of these clones, and some weight from someone else... it's a fk'd up situation. Either way... he gave them to my little brother... a first time grower... with the following instructions

1) keep them in the party cups for 2 more weeks max, under 24 hours light... ANY LIGHT.
2) 2 weeks from the pickup date he was to have his place, transplant them into fox farm soil, in 3 gallon pots, and start feeding HEAVY with nutes.
3) 12/12 for 8 weeks total... then chop.

* edit * He said doing this should see 1/2 bow to a full bow per plant... another reason i have to doubt him... that is INSANE yields for 1 600w and a 2 week veg...
those were the guys instructions!

*edit 2* and I also smoked some of the kids latest harvest... had it under the scope. TASTED LIKE GRASS... TRYCHOMES WERE STILL CLEAR PARTIALLY MILKY... got to taste some last night before the lil bro left... and I was not impressed. I am not hurt to have only kept 3... and hopefully my girls come out better than THAT.

then he got all paranoided when he found out that lil bro wasn't growin them, but that I was. He at first wanted 1/2 the finished... and I was like... nope. This is going to be my last grow for a while. It's all mine. Then he was like... i don't know if he gonna harvest and sell on the streets or to dispensaries.. but I can't h ave it... he has to kill them. Well... lil bro came over... and to let him have peace of mind, i let him kill the smallest 5... and i kept 3.

now lil bro is on his way to humboldt county with a couple friends with peace of mind *good luck lil bro*... and I have a 600w MH addition to my grow... which i am running as a vertical cooltube... still in the works of how exactly i am gonna expand... if at all. for now... it just is...

600w vertical mh and 600w top hps... giddyup
 

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billcollector99

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duchieman said:
Good morning to the West of me and good evening to the East. Everyone else, good afternoon.

Nice shot bill. Is that the one with the purple trichs? bassman your gardens looking really good man. You've dealt with a lot of stuff in the past year and battled you way through it pretty well it looks.

Hey Heads Up. My little YouTube romp led me to the old news clips from the time and they pissed me off again, and as much as the first time and asking what everybody was, "Randy, why the fuck did you get in that plane with that idiot?" All they found in his system was nicotine. Not even alcohol. The guy had his head on real straight. It must have been some crazy around your place when that happened. I was a teenager at the time actively playing in a Metal band playing Quiet Roit, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and such, so that was a big thing for me and my friends.

So, not much to report today. Just waiting for some seeds to pop. I'm using a temporary solution to warm the area until I can get a heat pad this week. Also, I didn't use any of the primo stuff I've been gifted this time. I took 10 seeds. Four are my Jack Hammer, two are C4/Caseys hermied seed and 4 are Deep Blue/JTR hermie seed the last one spit out. As an experiment, I pre split 3 of the DB/JTR in my mouth like you would a sunflower seed, ever so gentle and then rinsed the seed off right away with clean water. I said I was going to try this a little while ago so here we go. Depending on the results, if they do pop up before everyone else I'll try again with a better sample. Sorry if that sounds wacky. Maybe I'm just bored. Other discoveries have happened that way. :lol:

Well, good day all :peace:
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Hey Duchie, that last pic is actually off the Cougar that I just chopped last night. I just really liked the pic because of the colors in it :)
 
jhod58vw

jhod58vw

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Hello everyone, here's some pics taken today just jarred to start the curing process. Pic 1 is my OG Kush hydro grown & pic 2 is my Double Dream soil grown. Very high grade looking quality. Thanks for letting me be apart of the 600 grow club will have much more to share over my next grow. Please follow my new grow forum want to share with everyone. Learned so much from this website in the last few years and my turn to give back what I can. Thanks again. Stay Lit!!



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bassman999

bassman999

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strictly seedleSs said:
I would hook anyone up with finished buds if they needed the meds and had no money, but I wouldnt give them a clone.
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I have never bred a strain, and dont have the notion to at this time....I have to open my mind to the fact that is who I am in a way if I do. In that respect I wouldnt want some half-assed representation of my work floating around.

I wouldnt want someone making a shitty sub-woofer enclosure that copied an old one I built and telling everyone it was a Bassman creation!!

SS I am watching that whole video you posted. and it is very interesting!!
 
duchieman

duchieman

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billcollector99 said:
Hey Duchie, that last pic is actually off the Cougar that I just chopped last night. I just really liked the pic because of the colors in it :)
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That's what I liked too, I was just wondering if it was the plant with those purple trichs and that's what was giving off that color on the edges of the leaves. It really is too bad that the rest of the world is so cut off from seeing the beauty in these plants. I'd have no problem landscaping my property with cannabis for the ornamental factor, like so many other things we adorn our properties with for both looks and fruit.

Strictly, thanks for the other perspective. That's something I'd never consider because things just aren't set up that way here. It's still an underground market here and most people have no clue what they're selling or buying. But you made a lot of valid points and thanks for the link to the documentary. I will check it out.

Off to do a bowl now. I think I'll have some Caliband.
 
geekmike

geekmike

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afrawfraw said:
Thank You CampUnderDog.

GeekMike, That's the point! Remember , I have a 1000MH IN THE FLOWER CHAMBER. So Why waste negligible extras? Just run red HPS bulbs.

That's twice we've "Beer goggled" the same point! ROFL!
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Negligible means there are [FONT=arial, sans-serif]quantities so small that they can be ignored. So just buy any HPS and you will be just fine. I don't think you are "wasting" anything by adding the negligible blue that is added by some HPS bulbs, all HPS bulbs have some blue spectrum. [/FONT]
 
billcollector99

billcollector99

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duchieman said:
That's what I liked too, I was just wondering if it was the plant with those purple trichs and that's what was giving off that color on the edges of the leaves. It really is too bad that the rest of the world is so cut off from seeing the beauty in these plants. I'd have no problem landscaping my property with cannabis for the ornamental factor, like so many other things we adorn our properties with for both looks and fruit.

Strictly, thanks for the other perspective. That's something I'd never consider because things just aren't set up that way here. It's still an underground market here and most people have no clue what they're selling or buying. But you made a lot of valid points and thanks for the link to the documentary. I will check it out.

Off to do a bowl now. I think I'll have some Caliband.
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Those colors are coming out cause she was grown in the green house, so she had some really cold nights ;)
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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Good evening 6ers bongsmilie. Just cracked a beer and about to smoke a j after a good day of labor.
My oh my the pr0n! oh the lovely pr0n :-) I miss growing already.... I'll be back at it again, you'll see! ;-)
 
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