gladstoned
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...that's what she said.
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bob harris
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That's ok..when I hear Cory and Trevor, I think punk stoner...
gladstoned
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I would rather be a punk stoner, than a dick. And I don't know of any words that would make me think of dick. I can't recall every thinking about dick actually. WTF Cory? lol
jonnynobody
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You're kind of a douche bag eh? I don't remember saying that I hated baby boomers, I only suggested that the younger generation is more informed and capable of making knowledgeable decisions about marijuana policy. If you have a qualifying condition with paperwork, then your primary doctor should write your recommendation but it isn't happening that way you ignorant fuck. My wife's own oncologist would not sign her recommendation b/c of bullshit politics which neither her nurse or patient advocate could understand. Is that how the system is supposed to work bob? Also, I didn't even mention anything about strain shopping and I also don't grow so fuck yourself on money from my alleged overages. Go back to the drawing board asshole as you obviously have many flaws in your logic.
Cory and trevor
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Sorry I said I think of dick when I see bob or whatever. I still think you are, in fact, a dick though. you have these little boxes that we all should fit in and when we don't you jam us in one of your catch-all boxes like punk stoner or law abuser or some such other shit. for realsies bob, you seem to be the only legit patient in your view and we're just living in your world. There was legal medical alcohol after it was federally prohibited, bet you were the only one that fit the medical profile back then too. we'd all be drunks in your world and you're the one righteous guy out there with serious conditions that need treatment with whiskey. I'm just so sad that cannabis won't cure your dickheadidness.
bob harris
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Where do you come up with this crap? I think there are lots of legit medical cannabis patients. I also think there are as many or more people with cards who are simply trying to "legalize" their behavior. There also seem to be a bunch of just plain old anti-government people shouting about rights. But you are unable to even consider rational conversation..in regards to medical cannabis. You want to interpret medical as legal...and that's not what passed.
You should get off a medical forum and find a legalize forum...are you out collecting sigs for the legalize campaign? It's sure to pass, I mean..you and great thinkers like you voted in this medical bill....I'm sure that same 63% will show up to vote "legalize"
ozzrokk
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So you acknowledge it is the will of the people? But, you still think it is wrong? What is wrong with you lol?
bob harris
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What? Yes, a med law was the will of the people. I highly doubt that motel room certs and profiteering care givers were part of that "will of the people".
And all I'm saying is that if your take on "will of the people" is accurate...the legalization drive will get enough signatures to make the ballot...and will be easily voted in.
Do you think the legalization bill is going to make it? I mean, by your logic, why wouldn't it?
ozzrokk
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So this was sarcasm.? So you think that great thinkers like us were not A BIG PORTION of the 63%? You think that the majority of people do not think it should be legal already? Delusional much. Will it get voted in right away? Probably not. But it hasnt anywhere YET. Does that have anything to do with peoples true beliefs or federal stance and schedule 1 status? Will it be legal one day in our near future? Yes. If you say it will not you are out of your mind or lying to yourself. So that being said, You say it should be legal one day and hope it does but you seem to relish in the punishment of those doing things that SHOULD BE LEGAL.
Timmahh
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im far from anti government. but I know the government works for You and I! not the other way around. You may be fine with the government telling you when to piss, and when to whipe your ass, and who you have to buy your asswhipe from, but im not.
But I was born i a Repubilc, and I plan to die in one, and leave one for our children to die in also. Not some Governmental/Corporate state of slavery.
But I was born i a Repubilc, and I plan to die in one, and leave one for our children to die in also. Not some Governmental/Corporate state of slavery.
jonnynobody
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Just to be clear, I don't support doctors who are fraudulently signing patients' paperwork for the state; I support access to compassionate doctors who are willing to check their politics at the door and legitimately review a patients history and sign the certification paperwork as the law allows. So many doctors out there are apprehensive to even consider signing the certification paperwork for legitimate patients, but are more than happy to hand over fentanyl, morphine, oxycontin, etc...
In a perfect Michigan bob, doctors would have no stigma attached to signing legitimate medical marijuana certifications but we do not live in that perfect world yet. As far as what these doctors charge for a checkup, review of medical history, and consultation - if you don't like the price, go somewhere else. The fact that people are willing to pay exorbitant prices which are only that way because of aforementioned politics, shows clear evidence of a need for these services. By the way, my psych doc charges $145 for each visit and he spends less than 7 or 8 minutes with me so get off your high horse about the pricing of doctors visits.
In a perfect Michigan bob, doctors would have no stigma attached to signing legitimate medical marijuana certifications but we do not live in that perfect world yet. As far as what these doctors charge for a checkup, review of medical history, and consultation - if you don't like the price, go somewhere else. The fact that people are willing to pay exorbitant prices which are only that way because of aforementioned politics, shows clear evidence of a need for these services. By the way, my psych doc charges $145 for each visit and he spends less than 7 or 8 minutes with me so get off your high horse about the pricing of doctors visits.
sencinitas
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Hey man, you're welcome. just realized I posted it in the middle right in the middle of a fight(/debate). Kinda makes it carry extra weight.
< onemoreformebob harris
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totally agree Dr's should be free to sign recommendations without fear of reprisal. But their employers allow them to prescribe only traditional prescription meds...It's not the Dr's...It's the people employing the Dr's.
And I'm not on any high horse about the cost of medical treatment...My god man..I have huge medical expense..
Timmahh
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Can you afford them bob? No. so what about the guy that wasnt as fortunate as you with your life, career, or ability to make lots of money while you COULD work?
Ive worked my entire life. I have zero in savings, and no job, no ins, at the moment, but I have it lucky. What about about those not even as fortunate as I am bob?
by your logic, they should be imprissoned due to the inability to live UP to your Standard of human existence. Perhaps we could bring back those warm ovens from 1944 Germany, that could bring the FINALE Solution you seem to be seeking here.
Ive worked my entire life. I have zero in savings, and no job, no ins, at the moment, but I have it lucky. What about about those not even as fortunate as I am bob?
by your logic, they should be imprissoned due to the inability to live UP to your Standard of human existence. Perhaps we could bring back those warm ovens from 1944 Germany, that could bring the FINALE Solution you seem to be seeking here.
jonnynobody
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I have a secret I'm going to share with you bob; most doctors' employers are doctors themselves. The problem lies within the establishment doctor community and it needs to change. They're bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies and bob, that's no secret. I believe we agree on the fundamentals of change that needs to happen but we have some differences with how it should be done.
None of these amendments are designed to protect the patient with the exception of a photo on the medical marijuana id card, which I do believe is already required but the state in all their knowledge, wisdom, our money, and power....have yet to figure out how to do.
These amendments are an attack on the medical marijuana community here and if you can't recognize that, you need to regroup your thoughts. You think it makes me happy to see some 18 year old kid walk out of a dispensary and light up a joint in the damn parking lot? It upsets me quite a bit as I'm sure it does you and many people on this forum. My wife's favorite dispensary had more older clientele than anything else. We struck up great conversation on more than a few occasions with regulars and it was very cool. Other dispensaries (kalamazoo) are very unprofessional and I would like to see less of them.
I think the doctor patient relationship needs to be left alone as it is. If a doctor is misbehaving, we already have measures in place to handle them by professional sanctions and even taking their license to practice away from them. I don't agree with a couple of the amendments such as having to lock your mj in you trunk. When my wife and I travel, I don't have to lock her fentanyl in the trunk or her oxycodone or any of her other meds that can easily cause accidental death through diversion; but I have to lockup her mj in the trunk? C'mon bob, that makes absolutely no sense, unless you consider that the particular amendment is nothing more than muster and bluster from the opposition to the '08 mmm act to stir up dust where there is no problem so said politicians can make the news. Am I or you safer because your mj is in your trunk instead of in your glovebox? Ya know....now that I think about it, you would be more safe - from the police.
gladstoned
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So you guys are pretty sure that doctors are legit and they are not controlled by money?
I think I can do a pretty damn good job of deciding if I need to smoke a joint.
You guys are bitching about the legit doctor vs. bullshit fake doctor. When is it discussed that these same crooked ass con-artist doctors are the ones that have the country strung the fuck out on meds and that is the REAL thing stopping federal legalization.
The thing I love about medical marijuana is that I grow it, I pick out my strains, I medicate myself. I do not need any fucking cops, politicians, lawyers, doctors or any other PREDATOR telling me shit. I look at medical marijuana as my medicine.
I think I can do a pretty damn good job of deciding if I need to smoke a joint.
You guys are bitching about the legit doctor vs. bullshit fake doctor. When is it discussed that these same crooked ass con-artist doctors are the ones that have the country strung the fuck out on meds and that is the REAL thing stopping federal legalization.
The thing I love about medical marijuana is that I grow it, I pick out my strains, I medicate myself. I do not need any fucking cops, politicians, lawyers, doctors or any other PREDATOR telling me shit. I look at medical marijuana as my medicine.
jonnynobody
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Actually, no. The exact point I was trying to make was that most doctors are not legit when it comes to medical marijuana. Most outright oppose it for pure political reasons and most are controlled by far more money than $100-$200 patient visits that the majority of mmj specialty docs are getting. That's why I support the doctors that are willing to brave the storm and work with mmj patients in a legitimate manner. Other than that, I agree with the rest of your statement.
Timmahh
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I agree Glad. Exactly why I chose chiropractic, exercise and cannabis at the tender age of 14, over oxys, a knife and a scare from my asshole to my head. And dammit all, that dumb choice allowed me to have to work the majority of my life, though through pain in doing so...
And i ll be damned if I still can work, though with a little help from our green friend. but in the world according to bob, even if i qualify, im a criminal, cuz im not confinded to my home like an invalid ready to die, who has been blessed by Bill Schuette and bob with the ability to utilize a little cannabis as I Die in the next few weeks.
How Honorable of them to allow me this reprieve.
And i ll be damned if I still can work, though with a little help from our green friend. but in the world according to bob, even if i qualify, im a criminal, cuz im not confinded to my home like an invalid ready to die, who has been blessed by Bill Schuette and bob with the ability to utilize a little cannabis as I Die in the next few weeks.
How Honorable of them to allow me this reprieve.
gladstoned
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I didn't mean you. lol.
