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upbuds

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Mike K let joe do this, and he has no respect from me, as i see it

8:21:09 AM] Michael Komorn
To the Membership of the MMMA;
Earlier today our site was hacked. The problem is under control. I personally want to thank you for your patients while we transition the website. We appreciate your confidence in our organization, and look forward to refocusing our efforts on protecting patients. If any concerns were raised by this attack, our members can be assured that they will be addressed with openness, clarity, compassion and respect Again I thank you for your understanding and patients.
Michael Komorn
CEO/President of the MMMA

The server is still a problem. I'm going to try to do a custom install. We'll see. Thanks, Joe

in the end of the sinking ship., they both lie to the patients,
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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Well, if things are kept in perspective, they should be just fine. So long as they have the OK from the community they are located in. OK from the Local City Board, Mayor and Prosecuting Attorney. the only worry would then be on the Federal level. Or at least should be.


If anyone is familiar with networks and Hacking, they can tell you any site can be hacked. Just depend if you have the abilities, and the big hairy balls to take down a site that is well funded and secured. but it can be done.
 
ozzrokk

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I do not think it will affect the jackson farmers market in the long run but who knows if there will be a lapse or not.
 
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bob harris

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ozzrokk said:
I do not think it will affect the jackson farmers market in the long run but who knows if there will be a lapse or not.
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My only concern would be that the cops or AG view now as a good time to strike..based on Joe's involvement..kick him while he's down sort of thinking..
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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I would Expect NO Less from a majority of our government bob. THey are opportunists of the HIGHEST Degree. Which is why I have stood up and spoke my mind in public.
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
I would Expect NO Less from a majority of our government bob. THey are opportunists of the HIGHEST Degree. Which is why I have stood up and spoke my mind in public.
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Which is why I'm pointing it out. I don't want to be there if it happens..just a word of caution...
 
blissfest

blissfest

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So tell us the story Timmahh, what happened? Is Joe gonna go on a rampage and try and fuck Mike and whoever else?
 
FatMarty

FatMarty

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Timmahh said:
you must play the game to get through to the end of the game. one cant play if one is not on the board.

I stand by my defense of the 3MA and the Organization. In doing So, I had to defend Joe in the process. at the time they went hand in hand. But that is now done. I no longer need to stand and say I am behind Joe.....even though i DO believe his bottom line of protecting the 08 MMM Act, the Patients, Caregivers, and Citizens of Michigan the Act was passed by and passed for. But from this time forward, I do NOT have to allow myself to defend that piece of shit any longer.

In the good words of Dr. Martin Luther King
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You aren't making any sense.

If you would lick the guys boots just because he is your boss and then toss him under the bus the minute he gets fired...

And now everything he said was a lie and everything will be alright?

I call bullshit.

The guy is a nut; but he laid out some serious stuff and says he has proof of some of it.
The lawyer is a shyster that is fostering confusion so he can make money.

If Korman ever really cared about the patients of mmma he would have worked to get AG Cox to issue that finding we needed.
I told that cocksucker on his radio show blog to the point of absolute beligerence that what mmma needed was a good lawyer who would file suit against the State to force them to fully implement the Act.

Let it die.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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upbuds said:
Mike K let joe do this, and he has no respect from me, as i see it

8:21:09 AM] Michael Komorn
To the Membership of the MMMA;
Earlier today our site was hacked. The problem is under control. I personally want to thank you for your patients while we transition the website. We appreciate your confidence in our organization, and look forward to refocusing our efforts on protecting patients. If any concerns were raised by this attack, our members can be assured that they will be addressed with openness, clarity, compassion and respect Again I thank you for your understanding and patients.
Michael Komorn
CEO/President of the MMMA

The server is still a problem. I'm going to try to do a custom install. We'll see. Thanks, Joe

in the end of the sinking ship., they both lie to the patients,
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Does Mike Komorn (an attorney) know the difference between patients and patience?

My god, what a gong show!
 
FatMarty

FatMarty

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stow if you ever listened to his radio blog you would know the answer to that question.

Let's just put it this way - imagine a bunch of stoners partying around a microphone who aren't funny.
 
pharmacoping

pharmacoping

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bob harris said:
Yes, I am a registered card holder.

I don't think dispensaries (as they were being run) are "the" answer. But I do think something along that model is better than a farmers market.

Another issue I have with a "market" is: are their receipts for those transactions? I mean is the farmer taking in this money with only their word that they will file taxes and report their income and expenses for their caregiver "business" to the IRS and State?

One of the biggest roadblocks to any distribution scenario is that once money starts changing hands, income should be taxed. Even a NPO is required to have records and file taxes.

Any model that truly worked, would have to account for the transfer of cash. At the cg level, the dispensary level, even a p2p level.

Currently, how many patients and cg's are do you think are really keeping any records, and reporting their activity at tax time? My guess is very few.

I would say that anyone other than a patient growing for themselves, SHOULD be REQUIRED report to the state with records every year. Once you accept a patient, you become a business. Yes, you may be non profit...but you'd have to be giving away a lot of cannabis to be truly non profit.

Perhaps the largest problem of all, in every aspect of this law, is how poorly we have policed ourselves.

At least with a dispensary model of some sort, the dispensary can 1099 the growers that sell to them. The State can audit receipts and expenses of the dispensary, and there is an element of legitimacy for everyone.

If you are so naive as to think that the majority of "care givers" at this point are honest, compassionate caring individuals, barley making a nickle for their time, you need to wake up.

Sure, those people exist. But the vast majority care givers right now. and I'd suspect the ones with the most patients on their card, are in this to make under the table profits. If you don't agree with that..sorry, but you're just naive.
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It is a tax code violation to declare deductions to the IRS if you are involved in the production,manufacture, delivery, of illegally scheduled drugs. just sayin
 
buckaroo bonzai

buckaroo bonzai

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FatMarty said:
The lawyer is a shyster that is fostering confusion so he can make money.

If Korman ever really cared about the patients of mmma he would have worked to get AG Cox to issue that finding we needed.
I told that cocksucker on his radio show blog to the point of absolute beligerence that what mmma needed was a good lawyer who would file suit against the State to force them to fully implement the Act.

Let it die.
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this IS the gospel!! thanks be!! the best quote I never read before!! amen!
 
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