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bundee1

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NLXSK1 said:
You constantly harp on Zimmerman's record but dont want to talk about the 12 wedding rings and the suspicious behavior of someone who was not just walking home but was casing the joint.

Whether Zimmerman knew it or not he certainly had probable cause for watching Travan.
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Not racist at all.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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NLXSK1 said:
You constantly harp on Zimmerman's record but dont want to talk about the 12 wedding rings and the suspicious behavior of someone who was not just walking home but was casing the joint.

Whether Zimmerman knew it or not he certainly had probable cause for watching Travan.
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Watch,watch,watch. Yes, he may have had a reason to WATCH him. He had no authority. (Remember he was instructed by police to stand down.) As soon as 911 says,"STOP!." He should have stopped. But no, he didn't. He had no right to follow, confront and kill TM. Period.

And civilians don't get probable cause, because they are not legally authorized investigators. So he really should have stayed in the truck, which is why every one is pissed. And if TM was your kid, you'd be outraged at the blatancy of this situation.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Corso312 said:
agreed fraw...what do you think the chances of zimm serving time are?
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Not likely. My guess is he'll be shot in his home in a couple years as retaliation. Personally, I'd rather do a few years. I knew a boy who was killed in a similar way. He was running from cops, jumped a fence, and was shot by the home owner trying to cross the back lawn. The police ruled it justified because the suspect entered the property and approached the owner quickly. All good right? A year later the old man was shot 11 times in his home...Hmmm...Wonder why?
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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afrawfraw said:
Not likely. My guess is he'll be shot in his home in a couple years as retaliation. Personally, I'd rather do a few years. I knew a boy who was killed in a similar way. He was running from cops, jumped a fence, and was shot by the home owner trying to cross the back lawn. The police ruled it justified because the suspect entered the property and approached the owner quickly. All good right? A year later the old man was shot 11 times in his home...Hmmm...Wonder why?
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Are you saying innocent little Van-tray knows people who would shoot Zimmerman in his home in retaliation? Nice crowd he must've associated with.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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if he were my brother ...i would kill zimm down the road..i believe in an eye for an eye...if no justice in the courts..then street justice
 
CSI Stickyicky

CSI Stickyicky

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Florida is a corrupt state. I have known this for years, and i have made the decision to NEVER travel there. I prefer to take my vacation money to states that allow me to live my life. Colorado gets my vacation money a lot.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Harrekin said:
Are you saying innocent little Van-tray knows people who would shoot Zimmerman in his home in retaliation? Nice crowd he must've associated with.
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I know people who would shoot in retaliation. And? You probably do too. Let's be real...
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Corso312 said:
if he were my brother ...i would kill zimm down the road..i believe in an eye for an eye...if no justice in the courts..then street justice
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I would take both of his hands, grind them up, drop him off at a hospital, and go turn myself in.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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And I love how Zimm supporters are trying to paint TM as a criminal, LIKE IT MATTERS! There is a reason why we have police. There is a reason why we have rights. I've fucked up a few times. Do I deserve to be shot and die alone on a sidewalk in the rain!? FUCK NO!

Think about the Bar brawls you had as a kid. Any one of those guys could have shot you and had Zimm's story. HELLO!
 
Corso312

Corso312

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eh..not being a keyboard warrior...what would you do if he was your lil brother or nephew?..just sit back quietly and take it? accept that this d bag wanna be cop murdered your family member and chalk it up as justifiable ?...i think not..you would be irate and want your pound of flesh..difference is i can think outside the box..how would i react to this terrible injustice ?...how would i feel?...try it sometime
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Corso312 said:
eh..not being a keyboard warrior...what would you do if he was your lil brother or nephew?..just sit back quietly and take it? accept that this d bag wanna be cop murdered your family member and chalk it up as justifiable ?...i think not..you would be irate and want your pound of flesh..difference is i can think outside the box..how would i react to this terrible injustice ?...how would i feel?...try it sometime
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.......Like
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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afrawfraw said:
Watch,watch,watch. Yes, he may have had a reason to WATCH him. He had no authority. (Remember he was instructed by police to stand down.) As soon as 911 says,"STOP!." He should have stopped. But no, he didn't. He had no right to follow, confront and kill TM. Period.

And civilians don't get probable cause, because they are not legally authorized investigators. So he really should have stayed in the truck, which is why every one is pissed. And if TM was your kid, you'd be outraged at the blatancy of this situation.
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If it was my kid he would not be going around assaulting people and still would be alive today...
 
Total Head

Total Head

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considering that the voice analyses concluded that the screaming voice on the 911 call was NOT zimmerman, any thread that guy had to hang on to is gone imo.

i don't care if trayvon had just ridden his bike through zimmerman's prized petunias. you don't get to shoot someone in a confrontation that you initiated because you're suddenly scared he's going to kick your ass. why wasn't zimmerman worried about getting his ass kicked when he decided to follow the kid in the first place? because he was packing? sounds righteous to me :roll:
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Total Head said:
considering that the voice analyses concluded that the screaming voice on the 911 call was NOT zimmerman, any thread that guy had to hang on to is gone imo.

i don't care if trayvon had just ridden his bike through zimmerman's prized petunias. you don't get to shoot someone in a confrontation that you initiated because you're suddenly scared he's going to kick your ass. why wasn't zimmerman worried about getting his ass kicked when he decided to follow the kid in the first place? because he was packing? sounds righteous to me :roll:
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They also got less than a match for Nixon on a known Nixon recording ie. those "experts" lack expertise ;)
 
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