Why transplant instead of starting in the end grow container?

[F A B]

Most water runs off between the soil and the side of the pot, thus haveing a small pot with the roots just touching the sides a bit gives the plant optimum access to it. But if roots start crossing each other by twisting around the sides, they choke each other... so we pot up....
In my experience potting up to larger size brings faster growth than plonking a seed in the middle of a 30gal... At the end of the day though the plant is limited by the container's size.

i agree with that

 

[MonkeyGrow]

I sometimes wonder if these so called burned seedlings aren't really victims of moisture stress or something else. I have added EW castings and perlite (and humus) to FFOF for years and germed seeds in it with no proplems at all. I add the EW castings to the point that it gets me though veg and into flower without adding ferts. The perlite is important because FFOF is a little too heavy, really. As far as transplanting goes...I've alway subscibed to the school of bigger roots = bigger buds. The more dense you could pack the roots in the better. Hense the frequent transplants.

 

[F A B]

I sometimes wonder if these so called burned seedlings aren't really victims of moisture stress or something else. I have added EW castings and perlite (and humus) to FFOF for years and germed seeds in it with no proplems at all. I add the EW castings to the point that it gets me though veg and into flower without adding ferts. The perlite is important because FFOF is a little too heavy, really. As far as transplanting goes...I've alway subscibed to the school of bigger roots = bigger buds. The more dense you could pack the roots in the better. Hense the frequent transplants.

yep it is easier to blame product then the user lol

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

i usually put plant with its pot in the new larger pot and fill it full of soil around it and water good. once it drains good i pull the small pot out with the plant in it still, flip it upside down with the main stem between my fingers and tap the pot off. after that i put my pot shaped root ball into the pot shaped hole in the larger container. fits perfect like a puzzle piece and never disturbs the plant. absolutely no shock and it goes on living like nothing ever happened.

worse thing to ever happen to me while transplanting was getting dirt and perlite stuck in my sticky buds :/ but hey a little dirt never hurt....not sure about perlite though

why were you transplanting whilst your plant was budding ?

 

[Brother Numsi]

I think people transplant to try to avoid root rot. A botonist told me I could do it, but I'd really need to mind the moisture.

 

[red0021]

Another advantage for indoor growers transplanting is that you can keep the plants closer together, and make more use out of the light you have.

 

[Cheifin420]

I always thought transplanting was a root thing. Starting smaller lets them grow stronger before switching to a bigger size for them to grow bigger. I dunno

 

[crazyhazey]

I always thought transplanting was a root thing. Starting smaller lets them grow stronger before switching to a bigger size for them to grow bigger. I dunno

the more they can stretch the better, some do it when they're afraid the plant has become root bound. plants that get planted in the ground are usually much better than those in a 5 gal or so, theyve yielded better for me before as well. probably because their taproot can go down several feet and reach nutrients deep in the earth.

 

[BuddhaC]

Can't you veg for one month and flower in two with a 1 gallon pot?

 

[crazyhazey]

Can't you veg for one month and flower in two with a 1 gallon pot?

you can veg and flower in a party cup, idk about a whole month but a week or two and straight to flower can be done, under certain conditions they could go root bound easily though. i would suggest 3 gals for veg, 5 gals for flower.

 

[BuddhaC]

you can veg and flower in a party cup, idk about a whole month but a week or two and straight to flower can be done, under certain conditions they could go root bound easily though. i would suggest 3 gals for veg, 5 gals for flower.

What's root bound o.0 first I've heard of that

 

[crazyhazey]

What's root bound o.0 first I've heard of that

i guess the word describes itself, it means the roots are stuck and cannot spread anymore, or "bound". but i poke holes in my soil to avoid this problem, breaking the root endings causes it to throw out new roots replacing said root, and the holes make for more direct air getting to the roots.

 

[1993stoner]

i usually put plant with its pot in the new larger pot and fill it full of soil around it and water good. once it drains good i pull the small pot out with the plant in it still, flip it upside down with the main stem between my fingers and tap the pot off. after that i put my pot shaped root ball into the pot shaped hole in the larger container. fits perfect like a puzzle piece and never disturbs the plant. absolutely no shock and it goes on living like nothing ever happened.

worse thing to ever happen to me while transplanting was getting dirt and perlite stuck in my sticky buds :/ but hey a little dirt never hurt....not sure about perlite though

I'm going to adopt this. Great idea.

 

[rocknratm]

didnt read the thread, but

1. the plant focuses on root growth first, if its in the big container it wont seem like its growing foliage wise because its focused on roots. in a smaller one, it realizes its limit and goes to foliage focus faster. imo
2. less chance of overwatering, and problems with that. if theres no roots in a huge pot, and you keep watering the hell out of it, problems may arise;

 

[cropz]

Alright thanks for all the help lol.

 

[BLAZDBANDIT]

When i transplant can i go straight into flowering or should i veg a week or two under hps?

 

[crazyhazey]

When i transplant can i go straight into flowering or should i veg a week or two under hps?

i would veg her another week, in this week you could give them a bit of flower nutes and lower the light time. switching to hps would be good also.

 

[cindysid]

My plants seem to develop better root systems if I start them in a small pot. I start in pucks or starter pots then move up to quarts, then 3 gal, then outside. I have had very good luck with this. Also if a plant gets stretchy I can move the soil level up at transplant. I also like the fact that I can see what kind of shape the root system is in when I transplant. A big pot can have air pockets or dry/wet areas that can make it hard on a small seedling. Most people who grow outdoors start their plants in small pots. I assume it is for the same reasons, but do what feels right to you. Everyone who grows has their own methods.

 

[crazyhazey]

My plants seem to develop better root systems if I start them in a small pot. I start in pucks or starter pots then move up to quarts, then 3 gal, then outside. I have had very good luck with this. Also if a plant gets stretchy I can move the soil level up at transplant. I also like the fact that I can see what kind of shape the root system is in when I transplant. A big pot can have air pockets or dry/wet areas that can make it hard on a small seedling. Most people who grow outdoors start their plants in small pots. I assume it is for the same reasons, but do what feels right to you. Everyone who grows has their own methods.

outdoor in fl is rough on the humidity, but adding perlite or coco works out great. i also poke holes in there so the roots get some fresh air. imo, skip the quart and go to the 3 gal, she's gonna shoot out roots if the top part of the soil gets dry, this means those roots will go to the lower part of the pot. there will be less growth up top for a small amount of time, but bigger root systems means that the plant can take more nutes.

 

[pelt1]

What I used to do was start in a dixie cup, then transplant into final pot around flowering time. What I noticed is that I would have seriously fast foilage growth initially. But after I chopped, and took a look at the root-ball that had formed, I would barely be able to see the root system.

But on the contrary, when I would plant directly into final grow space from seed, after chopping, I would notice a massive root ball penetrating the entire soil.