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[zambonic]

So let me get this straight, The goverment in your world is what drives the demand? And yes the workers of course do not go out and widen the highways or build bridges themselves. They work for a comapany.. correct? (I am glad I have you to teach me) Now please tell me who owns said company?

 

[zambonic]

I can give you 787 billion reasons it is not a tax break!!

 

[UncleBuck]

So let me get this straight, The goverment in your world is what drives the demand? And yes the workers of course do not go out and widen the highways or build bridges themselves. They work for a comapany.. correct? (I am glad I have you to teach me) Now please tell me who owns said company?

government is one of the biggest consumers out there, so of course they can help drive demand in any number of ways. like, for example, hiring a privately owned company to go out and widen the highway, making it easier for goods and services to move freely along instead of sitting and idling, wasting gas.

 

[UncleBuck]

I can give you 787 billion reasons it is not a tax break!!

i can give you 288 billion reasons why it was.

[h=4]Tax incentives for individuals[/h]Total: $237 billion

• $116 billion: New payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phaseout begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers.[SUP][24][/SUP]
• $70 billion: Alternative minimum tax: a one year increase in AMT floor to $70,950 for joint filers for 2009.[SUP][24][/SUP]
• $15 billion: Expansion of child tax credit: A $1,000 credit to more families (even those that do not make enough money to pay income taxes).
• $14 billion: Expanded college credit to provide a $2,500 expanded tax credit for college tuition and related expenses for 2009 and 2010. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $160,000.
• $6.6 billion: Homebuyer credit: $8,000 refundable credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years. This only applies to first-time homebuyers.[SUP][38][/SUP]
• $4.7 billion: Excluding from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009.
• $4.7 billion: Expanded earned income tax credit to increase the earned income tax credit — which provides money to low income workers — for families with at least three children.
• $4.3 billion: Home energy credit to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners.
• $1.7 billion: for deduction of sales tax from car purchases, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000.

[h=4][edit]Tax incentives for companies[/h]Total: $51 billion

• $15 billion: Allowing companies to use current losses to offset profits made in the previous five years, instead of two, making them eligible for tax refunds.
• $13 billion: to extend tax credits for renewable energy production (until 2014).
• $11 billion: Government contractors: Repeal a law that takes effect in 2012, requiring government agencies to withhold three percent of payments to contractors to help ensure they pay their tax bills. Repealing the law would cost $11 billion over 10 years, in part because the government could not earn interest by holding the money throughout the year.
• $7 billion: Repeal bank credit: Repeal a Treasury provision that allowed firms that buy money-losing banks to use more of the losses as tax credits to offset the profits of the merged banks for tax purposes. The change would increase taxes on the merged banks by $7 billion over 10 years.
• $5 billion: Bonus depreciation which extends a provision allowing businesses buying equipment such as computers to speed up its depreciation through 2009.

 

[abandonconflict]

Good, one less vote for socialism.

I'm already planning to vote against the GOP.

 

[kelly4]

Buck, if the stimuless is so good for us why don't we do another one? Of course we would want to do it bigger though. That should make you happy! More tax breaks and wider roads! Every 3 years we should do a stimuless, in twenty years we will all be so fucking rich! Why haven't we been doing these for.......ever????

 

[abandonconflict]

Buck, if the stimuless is so good for us why don't we do another one? Of course we would want to do it bigger though. That should make you happy! More tax breaks and wider roads! Every 3 years we should do a stimuless, in twenty years we will all be so fucking rich! Why haven't we been doing these for.......ever????

Because we haven't had to fire Dubya every 3 years, only had to do that once. The first time we tried to fire him, he somehow managed to keep the job.

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck, if the stimuless is so good for us why don't we do another one? Of course we would want to do it bigger though. That should make you happy! More tax breaks and wider roads! Every 3 years we should do a stimuless, in twenty years we will all be so fucking rich! Why haven't we been doing these for.......ever????

if trickle down economics works, why aren't we swimming in jobs as we speak? i mean, the deal with trickle down is that if the rich get richer, they will hire more people for some reason, assumably because they're so damned rich.

so we've been doing that for 30 years now and the wealth is demonstrably flowing to the top, but wages have been stagnant for 30 years and we are certainly not swimming in jobs.

explain that one for me, would ya?

 

[UncleBuck]

Because we haven't had to fire Dubya every 3 years, only had to do that once. The first time we tried to fire him, he somehow managed to keep the job.

thanks to 50,000 religious whackjobs in ohio that probably went out to vote to make sure the gays don't marry and just checked off their born again hero while they were at it.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

We never got one dime of any stimulus package nor do we know anyone who did around here. Sure somebody did, whoever got the money it wasn't us. Not dissapointed after all we have a huge national debt and dont look to the government to make us rich, we'd be waiting a long time.

 

[zambonic]

You can copy and paste what ever you would like. At least I am smart enough to know that you can not spend 787 billion dollars of tax payers money and call it a tax break. You may give it to me now, but I have to pay it back at some point. Listen if you are a socialist UB, just say so.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

No, we are self employed and file quarterly. Small bussiness owners who did not qualify. We have a very good accountant.

 

[RyanTheRhino]

 

[kelly4]

You can copy and paste what ever you would like. At least I am smart enough to know that you can not spend 787 billion dollars of tax payers money and call it a tax break. You may give it to me now, but I have to pay it back at some point. Listen if you are a socialist UB, just say so.

He says it on here every day, you just have to listen.

 

[UncleBuck]

You can copy and paste what ever you would like. At least I am smart enough to know that you can not spend 787 billion dollars of tax payers money and call it a tax break. You may give it to me now, but I have to pay it back at some point. Listen if you are a socialist UB, just say so.

how is letting someone keep more of their own money "spending"?

explain that one for me, genius.

 

[RyanTheRhino]

You can copy and paste what ever you would like. At least I am smart enough to know that you can not spend 787 billion dollars of tax payers money and call it a tax break. You may give it to me now, but I have to pay it back at some point. Listen if you are a socialist UB, just say so.

we are all socialist to some level. You share your wealth with your family & friends. so that is a socialist system within your bubble that you define.

 

[zambonic]

Ok explain to me where you think the 787 billion came from?

 

[Moses Mobetta]

How do you let someone keep what is theirs in the first place ?

 

[zambonic]

I guess we can keep printing our way out of debt!!

 

[zambonic]

Thank you Moses!!