Experiment - drooping plant

Illegal Smile

Illegal Smile

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I'm doing a little experimental grow and seeing something I have not seen before. A total plant droop (not just leaf tips) after feeding. BUT, it bounces right back after a few hours. What puzzles me is that droop is usually associated with watering in soil grows, isn't it? And, I'm feeding on a conservative schedule that I have long used and using the same nutes as usual.

Yet when a plant droops that badly (it looks like sudden death syndrome) within an hour of feeding, it has to be feeding related. For this week's feeding I split it into two parts 48 hrs apart to lessen impact. The droop was the same for both halves, and the bounceback was 80% in a few hours and 100% in 12 hrs.

Thoughts appreciated!
 
BigBuddahCheese

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We need environment specific details like medium, ppms. ph maybe.. but MANY things can cause the droop I would imagine so narrowing it down would help most people willing to chime in.
 
Illegal Smile

Illegal Smile

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BigBuddahCheese said:
We need environment specific details like medium, ppms. ph maybe.. but MANY things can cause the droop I would imagine so narrowing it down would help most people willing to chime in.
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I guess I'm asking y'all to trust me that all those factors have been closely monitored and kept within normal ranges. I guess the question really is - what about feeding is known to lead to droop? Nothing that I have heard of.
 
Bigz2277

Bigz2277

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Water temps? maby they are getting shocked by cold water and then bouncing back naturally once the temp rises a bit? just a guess.
 
Illegal Smile

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Yes, water is a good guess. But my res temps have not gone over 69, and all water used is out overnight before use.
 
Illegal Smile

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polyarcturus said:
genetic maybe? the plant may not like feeding at intervals but prefers a steady source of food?

that is odd
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Maybe that is the best guess. Only 4 of 5 seeds germinated and 2 of those 4 failed to sprout. I still wish I could get an autopsy and know exactly what it was. Over-feeding of some kind seems to be the only answer, but yet I've never heard of that causing droop, just burn.
 
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dtischerd

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on my first DWC/RDWC grow i did a rez change with 39F water(ouch) the plant drooped like no other plant drooped before..i thought for sure it was gonna die..so i then raised the temp of the water to around 68F and by morning she was as healthy as ever before..scared the crap outta me.

i do however top off with refrigerated water,but i'm only adding at most a gallon of water to a total of 15 gallons of R/O water.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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mj autopsy would that work? what strain is it? could it be pH related just shocking the shit out of it then pH adjust to water and plant recovers.
 
Illegal Smile

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It is blue mystic autoflower. I don't think pH is related. The res was 6.0 to begin with, the water added was 6.0 and the nutes are a good buffer.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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okay figured. maybe cuz its an auto they have some interesting genetics for sure, it not a perfected breed/art yet, i have heard a lot of unusual things about autos.
 
BigBuddahCheese

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Illegal Smile said:
DWC = Death Without Cause
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My garden has never resembled that definition, not saying I haven't had problems but there was a cause.

I also never "assume" any grower knows what they are doing or talking about, especially the ones with problems as they are of course doing "something" wrong to be asking for help. So with that said, probably should provide details as specific as possible when asking for "any" help.

The best answers you will get are from those "asking for particulars" and NOT the ones "assuming" you know what you are doing. Sorry to offend, I guess.
 
Illegal Smile

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BigBuddahCheese said:
My garden has never resembled that definition, not saying I haven't had problems but there was a cause.

I also never "assume" any grower knows what they are doing or talking about, especially the ones with problems as they are of course doing "something" wrong to be asking for help. So with that said, probably should provide details as specific as possible when asking for "any" help.

The best answers you will get are from those "asking for particulars" and NOT the ones "assuming" you know what you are doing. Sorry to offend, I guess.
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That is offensive. You should know better than to say problems mean the grower is doing something wrong. I already told you this is a strain I have never grown and the whole group of seeds had problems from the start. If you don't believe I know what I'm doing then simply blow it out your ass and stay out of my thread.
 
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onthedl0008

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U said after feed... Since you said your ph and ppm have all remained consistant i have to chalk this up to something real simple something ive seen plenty of times with different strains is overwatering...
Yup its possible to shock out a dwc plants medium very easily especially dureing early growth its been seen and proven i dont really ecen need to speak on it but.. Keeping your wlmedium moist and not wet will speed root growth to the water.
I have also seen the same thing by letting my sponges and clay dry out i will also get droop.
What can i say certain strains just like to be wet and some dont typical.
Keep ur clay dark not wet and dont allow it to dry out this should straighten it out.
Peace.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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over watering? i didnt know the media could really get wet like that, i could be a soggy media problem, but i still think its genetics.

@ Buddha wtf man? ive seen healthy plants die without a reason plentyn of time, most of the time its from something that can be fixed but somethime there is just no reason, i dont know how many plants you have actually seen live and die, but it happens all the time, compacted soil, unbalance patches of pH in the soil, hell maybe the rocks needed rinsed or there was a build up of residue from what was growing in there last, maybe he spilled some coffe in the water that week. who know? but plants die all the time for no reason? why do you think they evolved such a rapid way to propagate? because out of every 100 seeds in nature 90% will germ, 10% will die young 30% will die within 3 months, leaving you with 50% of original pop. plants die easy and grow fast, sometime there is no reason for death. ever heard of SIDS?
 
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