Are there ANY Christians on RIU?

eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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Doer said:
attention atheists dont waste your time arguing with superstitious people... it'll save you alot of grief... its like a geographer trying to have a conversation and explain that the earth is a sphere with a "flat earther"...

I don't see it a waste of time or gathering any grief. I'm not an atheist, so I don't take the position of no god, I take the position of know now. It requires a big effort to be NOW.

If one can be now then one will know. Those that don't know, argue theology and the interpretations of seers. Where has gone the basic "know thyself?"
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...amen to that :)
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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eye exaggerate said:
...amen to that :)
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Living life in the present instead of living for the past or future, has nothing to do with anything spiritual at all. I live in the moment because its all im ever going to have, this moment right now. Living in the "now" will not allow you to know of anything metaphysical or theological.
 
Doer

Doer

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Zaehet Strife said:
Living life in the present instead of living for the past or future, has nothing to do with anything spiritual at all. I live in the moment because its all im ever going to have, this moment right now. Living in the "now" will not allow you to know of anything metaphysical or theological.
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You are right and wrong. No need to know anything metaphysical or theological in NOW. But, I'm not talking in the moment. I mean so now, we are not listening to our inner dialog. Those dialogs are sequences and concern the past and future, expectation and regret. Everyone has this. They are time bound sequences that have nothing to do with now. When you spend the effort one can immerse into NOW, for "brief" timeless moments.

My experience is Knowledge of Self. It's what all the metaphysical and theological natter is about, seems to me. The mind-cloud is nothing and will perish. Knowledge starts when we are calmly and thoughtlessly now. It's like music, harmony here. Hard to explain. What is the feeling of your favorite song? Hard to explain and it kind of doesn't come close to describe why that song makes you feel. Explainations seem worthless and there is no need to explain. Just listen. Music expresses itself as we listen. Same as NOW.
 
Doer

Doer

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Does gold panning count? :) I was looking for something to go with my forum name. Found that logo. :peace:

Defense Operations Engineering Resource or some such.
 
PrivateEye6

PrivateEye6

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Religion sucks :p

I dont need a church to feel safe for when I die. I am free i am fearless, I worry not of retaliation for my sins or expect anything in return for my good deeds. We are here to learn and "god" loving death fearing people shall live in the shadows. Im not one to follow trends or adopt an others reasoning and belief system and for that reason Im able to tap into otherwise hidden potentials. Free your soul and you'll see.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Doer said:
You are right and wrong. No need to know anything metaphysical or theological in NOW. But, I'm not talking in the moment. I mean so now, we are not listening to our inner dialog. Those dialogs are sequences and concern the past and future, expectation and regret. Everyone has this. They are time bound sequences that have nothing to do with now. When you spend the effort one can immerse into NOW, for "brief" timeless moments.

My experience is Knowledge of Self. It's what all the metaphysical and theological natter is about, seems to me. The mind-cloud is nothing and will perish. Knowledge starts when we are calmly and thoughtlessly now. It's like music, harmony here. Hard to explain. What is the feeling of your favorite song? Hard to explain and it kind of doesn't come close to describe why that song makes you feel. Explainations seem worthless and there is no need to explain. Just listen. Music expresses itself as we listen. Same as NOW.
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Experiencing the now happens a lot when i consume large doses of cubensis mushrooms. But i know what you mean, meditation of no-thought. Word to living without regret, but that doesn't mean i will ever forget.
 
Doer

Doer

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....jumping out of an airplane, bombing a downhill ski run, taking that perfectly smooth racing turn up onto the freeway...and certainly, the even more thrilling incidents in life....well....., we are hardly thinking about the grocery list, are we?! :)

But, to consciously and regularly practice to un-lax from the mind cloud, it all adds up, it gets better. It is like a light after a while. Always here, more easy to be aware of, to contact quickly, to remain if and when possible, for the Pearls of Great Price.

Knowledge of Self for the hard won price of un-divided attention.
 
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jessy koons

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GanjaGod420000 said:
U know nothing of faith, or of God... Dont talk to me about what u believe it should be... God, nor His followers wants damnation for anyone... If He wouldn't have given His only Son to be slain, and become the perfect sacrifice for us all, then we would ALL be headed for hell, or eternal separation from God... I dont wish damnation on anyone... U should check your own ignorant beliefs before u come bashing mine... Or as a wise man once said, "You better chiggety check yourself, before you wreggety wreck yourself..."
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I don't believe a wise man would say 'chiggety' or even 'wreggety'.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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BA142 said:
Why do you believe? Because you "feel" God?
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Self-delusion seems to be a defining quality of human behavior. Lies maintain our flimsy order, we find consolation in myths like 'what we do has significance' and 'God punishes the wicked'. The constant avalanche of empirical evidence to the contrary simply gets relegated to the third class bureau of irrational philosophers. Very sad indeed.

Our traditional values are warped; they reflect fantasy not reality. Our values are so removed from actual substance that fantasy becomes reality and truth becomes error. This is the primary difficulty in conveying the meaning of nihilism because all morally loaded concepts are biased against a lucid description of the nihilistic viewpoint. Nietzsche was addressing this issue when he wrote the title and the book Beyond Good and Evil. But it's not just a series of lies it's a debasing and wholly aberrant structure. The problem is so deep that even the words to define it must be replaced with a new lexicon.
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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Zaehet Strife said:

Self-delusion seems to be a defining quality of human behavior. Lies maintain our flimsy order, we find consolation in myths like 'what we do has significance' and 'God punishes the wicked'. The constant avalanche of empirical evidence to the contrary simply gets relegated to the third class bureau of irrational philosophers.
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...I kinda thought at first glance that his avatar looked like one of those photocopies of a woman's bottom with a g-string on...wick-ed :D
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Independent theologies and decentralized organizations have replaced the Church/State monopoly. With the loss of government support (money) the Church has revealed its true nature as the giant predatory profit-motivated scam that it is. The theological monopoly has been broken and now any faith is just as valid as any other is. History will rate the separation of Church and State as one of the most critical pivots of the modern era. The secondary effect of this is that the national population doesn't know which faith to choose, and although religion can't be eliminated it can be easily replaced. Now all the addicts to God will have to make do with a pluralistic methadone.
 
Rascality Afoot

Rascality Afoot

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I like a good christ-like christian. I just can't see Jesus sitting on a computer made of pure human suffering and trying to make his case on RIU. I can however see him getting crucified by the internet community, so I guess we're both right.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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These poor christians are still getting picked on? lol Yes, I agree that what they believe in is ridiculous but all the main religions do have slivers of truth and divinity. They get a little respect from me because they acknowledge that theres more to life than what we can experience with our physical senses *cough cough monkey need to see cough cough*. This thread shows that spiritualists arent free to discuss anything without facing reticule from those die-hard atheists. Its funny how they claim that religion separates us (which it does but less so now than in the past) yet here they are in the spiritual forum causing arguments and separation lol Its almost like they are compelled to prove that there is no God... Kinda sounds like religious people being compelled to spread their religion... Im surprised these guys arent knocking on doors asking "Do you want to accept science, reasoning, skeptical thinking and utter lack of imagination as your new morals to live by? The Church of the Almighty Nothing is calling out to you! See all the things that are NOT in store for you when you die! Learn how to laugh without showing any facial expression! At the end of the year we plan to have a parade and march like Nazi's to the Vatican while chanting SCIENCE IS GOD in a monotone manner. Please take this pamphlet on how to re-program your brain so you can be a boring, calculating robot of rationality like we are, we're only being honest with ourselves is all!" ... xD I crack myself up.
 
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