Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow

RetiredMatthebrute

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Oh, I forgot - practically speaking the only portions of the plant that are responsible for detecting the necessary heat changes are the root and shoot tips.

Maybe water via ice cubes during the day for a week?
never hurts to try something once...unless it kills them but i dont think thats going to happen, it can be alot of shock though (i would imagine) so prepare for the worst.

as far as the pot:plant size thing thats pretty interesting, so by growing from seed in a solo cup and using a LST method you could essentially grow out a "mini Mj scrog" that would be pretty coolmaybe ill give it a whirl with some bagseed's
 

Gastanker

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If there was no plant limit I'd be growing dixie cup SOGs :) Think about the number of strains you could grow out. I actually really miss growing smaller plants on more of a perpetual. Pretty little things -

These should have been in solo cups.


But these would have easily fit into dixie cups :)
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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yeah them buds do look great. ill veg a bean in a solo cup all summer lol outdoor style ScROG in a solo cup...

yo so i have been thinking about buying a bike. i have 2 that im looking at both are Honda Goldwings ones a 76 other is a 86.

heres the 76 Goldwing, has more plastic than the other but is still missing some pieces, i definatly like this one alot.

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76 goldwing new.jpg
 

flowamasta

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HEY IF A CHICK WANTS TO SIT ON THE SEAT WHILE IT RUNNING, THATS GOTTA BE A GOOD THING!! oops caps, oh well kinda suited the moment lol
 

Gastanker

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I like the older bike a bit more - really like the look of the black one.

Weren't those some pretty plants flowa? Lost all those genetics in a house burglary :(

@poly I was under the impression they were just double ended MHs - same thing, different configuration. But I have no direct experience with them so what do I know. You can always carefully break your MH bulbs and let them burn open. They would deliver quite a bit of UV.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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I like the older bike a bit more - really like the look of the black one.
i feel the same, hopw this guy gets back to me and hasnt sold it yet, and yeah if i buy it i will be painting it to match that black bike, they are the same exact bikes

some of the decorative chrome pipes are a bit different in layout but the same bike
 

flowamasta

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I like the older bike a bit more - really like the look of the black one.

Weren't those some pretty plants flowa? Lost all those genetics in a house burglary :(

@poly I was under the impression they were just double ended MHs - same thing, different configuration. But I have no direct experience with them so what do I know. You can always carefully break your MH bulbs and let them burn open. They would deliver quite a bit of UV.
they were some gorgeous plants Gas, :( sorry to hear they were lost due to a buglary, do you think maybe they smelt your house a mile away?? I'm actually looking for a new combo fan and filter cause i get soo paranoid while drying and trimming, it's always the worst time for the smell to come out, and these last few grows, well actually all of them have been very stinky, and i have often smelt it while coming home up to the front door, and i'm running a filter, a big one for the size tent anyway. i will get another for the room itself or maybe the hallway incase smells get that far, it travels, and i think us as growers and smokers get used to the smell more than we think...if I can smell it out there, a non smoker probably could even easier :( and now i'm growing skunk, i think i better upgrade, even the vegging plant is a smelly bitch
 

polyarcturus

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I like the older bike a bit more - really like the look of the black one.

Weren't those some pretty plants flowa? Lost all those genetics in a house burglary :(

@poly I was under the impression they were just double ended MHs - same thing, different configuration. But I have no direct experience with them so what do I know. You can always carefully break your MH bulbs and let them burn open. They would deliver quite a bit of UV.

i was thinking of breaking them and placing in my cool tube. i am unsure whether my tube is borosilicate glass or tempered but either way transmission of UV-a is like 80% and UV-b about 60%(UV-c 0% completely filtered by most glass except quartz adn few others)

but this is the real question WTF is the uv output of an unblocked metal halide in comparison to the sun? then do the math with the percentage reductions to see if its safe. i just cant find these numbers, me and you both know they coat that glass for a reason!(besides the fact they use cheap glass and let the chemical coating do all the work)
 

Gastanker

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i was thinking of breaking them and placing in my cool tube. i am unsure whether my tube is borosilicate glass or tempered but either way transmission of UV-a is like 80% and UV-b about 60%(UV-c 0% completely filtered by most glass except quartz adn few others)

but this is the real question WTF is the uv output of an unblocked metal halide in comparison to the sun? then do the math with the percentage reductions to see if its safe. i just cant find these numbers, me and you both know they coat that glass for a reason!(besides the fact they use cheap glass and let the chemical coating do all the work)
Kind of crazy - I can't find anything on the actual amounts. Considering the lights can't put out near as much radiation in general compared to the sun, and little of that is in UV, I doubt the lights will put out more UV than the sun - or as much UV than an equivalent wattage UV MV bulb. There are some bulbs what till not operate with cracked glass but should be labeled with ...fuck, I think it's like MPV or some other three letter abbreviation starting with M. I did find this chart which I believe is comparing the amount of UV released by a treated bulb cover and a non treated bulb cover. Unfortunately it's in % intensity.


http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPAT5572091&id=08snAAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd&dq=metal+halide+ultraviolet&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q=metal halide ultraviolet&f=false
 

Gastanker

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they were some gorgeous plants Gas, :( sorry to hear they were lost due to a buglary, do you think maybe they smelt your house a mile away?? I'm actually looking for a new combo fan and filter cause i get soo paranoid while drying and trimming, it's always the worst time for the smell to come out, and these last few grows, well actually all of them have been very stinky, and i have often smelt it while coming home up to the front door, and i'm running a filter, a big one for the size tent anyway. i will get another for the room itself or maybe the hallway incase smells get that far, it travels, and i think us as growers and smokers get used to the smell more than we think...if I can smell it out there, a non smoker probably could even easier :( and now i'm growing skunk, i think i better upgrade, even the vegging plant is a smelly bitch
Yeah... I was being stupid. Growing in a low class apartment building while doing nothing to control the smell aside from smoking a shit ton of pot. lol. You could pretty much smell my 4th floor apartment from the parking lot. Got to call the cops though which really boosted my confidence when it comes to being legal. They took pictures, finger printed, took a very very detailed list of what was taken... Very impressive considering I half expected them to laugh at me and then arrest me. Wont catch me growing without a fresh carbon filter now. Hell I don't even smoke in my own yard or with my windows open anymore.
 

polyarcturus

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its some BS trying to find the info we need on the net. i thing i have tried every variation of the words metal halide and ultraviolet.
im gonna try it with a venture Metal halide i have one that is pretty old and and used. illl let you know if it starts killing my plants! and i guess im gonna have to wear my sunglasses now...

they are labeled R and T(T extinguishes), as far as UV i dont know this might put off a lot more uv in general since the glass is not specialized and its a 400w bulb, thats double the MV bulb wattages
 

polyarcturus

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Yeah... I was being stupid. Growing in a low class apartment building while doing nothing to control the smell aside from smoking a shit ton of pot. lol. You could pretty much smell my 4th floor apartment from the parking lot. Got to call the cops though which really boosted my confidence when it comes to being legal. They took pictures, finger printed, took a very very detailed list of what was taken... Very impressive considering I half expected them to laugh at me and then arrest me. Wont catch me growing without a fresh carbon filter now. Hell I don't even smoke in my own yard or with my windows open anymore.
dude same here. im so paranoid too many cllose calls for me.... 2 filters, no smoking outside the house, no windows ever get opened i cussed the shit out of my roommate yesterday for just that. im just glad they didnt deter you! i know if i got caught i would be right back at it
 
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