Hey Swerve

JJFOURTWENTY

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I don't see how anyone could develop that many, at least with proper testing. If you take 2 pure strains an make F1's that fairly easy. The next generation you should start looking with about 300 seed, actually more. F3 you should start with 700. So do you test every plant? Not weight them but dry cure and smoke them, test for tolerance build up and such? I smoke a lot, a whole lot but I don't feel I can test more than a few strains at a time (over the course of a few weeks) and it would take even more time to sort phenos. I'm not calling you a pollen chucker but I do have a hard time believing that all of you strains have been tested correctly. Not trying to pick shit, but Shantibaba has been at this 20-30 years and does not have the list of strains you do. DJ short has also been working on his lines for just as long and only has about 5 or so but he smokes all possible examples (as should all breeders).
simply making one cross from someone else's lines then selling the result as something unique is the very definition of a "pollen chucker".

Not that by itself there is anything wrong with simply crossing plants to get F1 seeds. All true breeding has to start there, and as you know, with the right parents, you can get absolutely outstanding plants that way.

But just doing that doesn't make you a breeder!

It takes two YEARS to do enough crosses to create a truly unique and (at least mostly) stable line, and I think that's where you're going to start to separate the children from the adults, so to speak.

It's nothing but pollen chucking at it's finest. There, someone had to say it! ;-) Yeah they may use a good male and hit a bunch of elite clones with him, but 60 strains or whatever pretty much overnight?? Come on, the only result that can possibly come out of that is some straight up F1 madness... and at a 100 bucks a pack, have fun pheno hunting! Someone else in one of the other RD threads has already grown out a half pack and reported six different phenos from six seeds - no surprise there, lolz.:lol:

+Rep to both Bigtacofarmer and Jogro for droppin' the facts/truth up in here.:blsmoke:
 

Fresh 2 De@th

Well-Known Member
yeah just seen a thread up on thcfarmer where someone else stated to grow out the whole pack and found a bunch of pheno's in 10 seeds. i find it funny how these rd reps find time to post here with all this false hype and claims of how they grew this and that out of the catalog and everything's stable. even worst is the bull shit claim of having the best buds and being the best grower in the world, but the funny part is you'll never hear them talk this bs where the big dogs stomp.

side note:

no disrespect to riu but you'll get no respect. at least not from rd. if i was rd i wouldn't either especially when you have a mod protesting against you for not sending out testers but when he gets them is "like let's show rd some respect". like i said no disrespect, i have come to like being here on riu but somethings are too funny to be overlooked and swept under the rug.

i see everyone here talking about how gth tested at 25%+ but failed to look at the fact that it was combined numbers. if you need the link to show proof of what im talking about i will be more than gladly to post here, if not check the farm. there's a thread on it showing the test results and how the numbers was combined to reach that 25% ( actual results 16% thc and 9% thca= 25%). unlike here, the farm and a couple of other places shit get questioned. there are too many great growers, info and well documented test grows there for you to make bullshit claims about you or who you rep grow the best buds.
jj nyce just posted the results of the denver cup- his quava 13 took first place for the sativa cup- but you would never hear them talk about that. let them tell it, they never heard of him or top dawg seeds? i guess jj payed someone to win that cup in your state huh?

keeping it on the up and up, i brought rd seeds but not for the reason most people here did. i like american breeders, so i will always support them, but when you start dissing your customers and can't back none of your false claims i can't support you any more. fuck all test that never took place, fuck all the if they're stable or not that doesn't amount to anything if you can't get support back for whom you support.

funny how all those packs are still up for sale for someone who makes and grow the best bud with the most elites. top dawg, og rascal, cali con, bodhi and loompa stay selling out, why? proven dank. get on there level before you'll start sending dweebs out only to misrepresent rd on a bad note.

jj420 and those alike +1 rep for recognizing the bs and repping riu. atm i wish you guys was mods.
 

IVIars

Active Member
I remember over a year ago RD posted their website in the colorado forum at the farm. EVERYTHING was crossed to the same Afghani IBL male, around 30 strains if i remember correctly. They got flamed for it. In that time, they have came out with even more strains using different males. They known for haveing some good mothers, but watering them down with the males. Thats the word around colorado anyway.

People will say im full of shit, but i dont care. I remember the BS that they posted over a year ago and wont buy a single pack from them.

Dont get me started with that BS Strawberry NOg that swerve is coming out with
 

Fresh 2 De@th

Well-Known Member
I remember over a year ago RD posted their website in the colorado forum at the farm. EVERYTHING was crossed to the same Afghani IBL male, around 30 strains if i remember correctly. They got flamed for it. In that time, they have came out with even more strains using different males. They known for haveing some good mothers, but watering them down with the males. Thats the word around colorado anyway.

People will say im full of shit, but i dont care. I remember the BS that they posted over a year ago and wont buy a single pack from them.

Dont get me started with that BS Strawberry NOg that swerve is coming out with
yeah it's too many big dogs and great growers over there to try to pull a fast one. whenever he post over there he is very humble, just don't get why they choose to show all the hostility here. the same questions, and smart remarks that are said here have been said/asked at the farm, but you choose poor riu to dump on.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Emery pled guilty; basically to protect his friends and family from facing criminal charges as well.

So far as I know he didn't even try to raise a jurisdictional issue to resist US prosecution. (Well, he probably TRIED, but was told "you can bring that up at trial").

Had he fought this, American Federal charges may not have stuck.

But more to the point, Emery openly bragged about selling seeds illegally both in Canada and in the USA, and made it a point to deliberately provoke trouble along the way. Even had he beaten the American charges, he inevitably would have faced more Canadian criminal charges. Had he NOT pissed off his own gov't to begin with, they probably wouldn't have agreed to extradite him over crimes he allegedly committed outside American jurisdiction.

Unlike Emery, I don't see Swerve openly bragging about violating the law. In fact, I doubt he does at all. Swerve just sells his seeds (legally) wholesale to retailers. What they do after getting them isn't his problem!
It's not illegal to possess or sell seeds in Canada.

He did fight extradition, he lost.
 
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