trayvan martin

[Harrekin]

Don't blame Zimmerman..??? Dude STFU and go suck your own cock. When he was told " we don't need you to follow" and then he ignored the advice of the very people he called for help, thats when he received the blame from me. ABC has nothing to do with the 911 tapes I heard. Bitch running around with a gun trying to be Captain Jerk Off. As a gun-owner/CCW myself Zimmerman fucked up. With these rights come a greater responsibility that most are not ready for... again go suck your own cock if you feel Zimmerman is without blame.

So you're the civilian dispatcher's little bitch now? You HAVE to do what they say?

No you fucking don't, stop following this angle, it's retarded.

And you've heard the tape, it wasn't even an instruction, so get some new material retard.

EDIT: Try using your brain, it's murder 2 and he's out on bail, possibly out of State...it's a bullshit case put on to stop rioting, he'll never be convicted on what's come out.

Cant wait to say I told you so

 

[UncleBuck]

So you're the civilian dispatcher's little bitch now? You HAVE to do what they say?

No you fucking don't, stop following this angle, it's retarded.

And you've heard the tape, it wasn't even an instruction, so get some new material retard.

EDIT: Try using your brain, it's murder 2 and he's out on bail, possibly out of State...it's a bullshit case put on to stop rioting, he'll never be convicted on what's come out.

Cant wait to say I told you so

this isn't old mcronald's last stand gone down in flames. this is not an 'i told ya so' kind of thing.

the reason why the advice of the non-emergency dispatch is important is plain: we don't need vigilantism here in the states. hence "we don't need you to do that".

this is why the whole tragedy was described by the police that night as "ultimately avoidable by zimmerman".

that's also why serino wanted to try him for manslaughter the night of after hearing his bullshit story.

that story is blacked out right now, but we will hear it. and it will be laughable bullshit, just as the prosecution has already hinted.

also take into account that zimmerman wasn't simply trying to ask the kid where he was going or why. he had a couple chances to do that, and never did.

zimmerman's goal that night was to detain one of those assholes who were always getting away. just have the police call me when they get here, because i'm hunting this kid down.

the detainment went wrong, he should have never even tried to detain the kid in the first place, manslaughter at best. murder 2 seems to fit the bill a little better base don his actions and mindset that night.

 

[Harrekin]

this isn't old mcronald's last stand gone down in flames. this is not an 'i told ya so' kind of thing.

the reason why the advice of the non-emergency dispatch is important is plain: we don't need vigilantism here in the states. hence "we don't need you to do that".

this is why the whole tragedy was described by the police that night as "ultimately avoidable by zimmerman".

that's also why serino wanted to try him for manslaughter the night of after hearing his bullshit story.

that story is blacked out right now, but we will hear it. and it will be laughable bullshit, just as the prosecution has already hinted.

also take into account that zimmerman wasn't simply trying to ask the kid where he was going or why. he had a couple chances to do that, and never did.

zimmerman's goal that night was to detain one of those assholes who were always getting away. just have the police call me when they get here, because i'm hunting this kid down.

the detainment went wrong, he should have never even tried to detain the kid in the first place, manslaughter at best. murder 2 seems to fit the bill a little better base don his actions and mindset that night.

You've got it all twisted, I think he SHOULD be held accountable for manslaughter at least, the point Im making is he WON'T.

If Trayvon was secretly alive, then he'd be fucked, but there's no conflicting party or evidence to disagree with his story and under SYG if Trayvon did attack him he's within his rights to take him out.

Blame SYG, don't get butthurt at me for being a realist about this. It's a beautiful case to highlight that if you wanna shoot someone and claim SYG you better shoot to kill tho, not a great message to be putting out.

 

[MyndMy]

Now I ask all of you what would you do if some guy in regular clothing is following you home and maybe you see he has a gun on him.
Let's take it further let's say he gets you to stop by pretending to be the police, he has you sitting down asking you questions then decided he wants you to wait for police, saying you just robbed someone. Now you know he's not a cop, but you don't want to let him put a case on you. So you run you fight all cause he wanted to do what 911 told him not too. He pulls his gun cause he's getting his ass whipped, and kills a kid he could have just let go home.

 

[Harrekin]

Now I ask all of you what would you do if some guy in regular clothing is following you home and maybe you see he has a gun on him.
Let's take it further let's say he gets you to stop by pretending to be the police, he has you sitting down asking you questions then decided he wants you to wait for police, saying you just robbed someone. Now you know he's not a cop, but you don't want to let him put a case on you. So you run you fight all cause he wanted to do what 911 told him not too. He pulls his gun cause he's getting his ass whipped, and kills a kid he could have just let go home.

Yeah but under Florida law, if Rimmerman can convince the Jury that Martin attacked him physically and that he feared for his life (as his doctor has done) then SYG applies.

If you don't like it, then repeal SYG and just give a better legal definition as to what self defence is.

Or just sit here crying that the big bad Zimm played the game and played it well.

EDIT: Iv spent about 6 weeks in various parts of Florida, won't be going back again now, it's clearly full of whack jobs with guns that can legally shoot you...fuck that shit.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Yeah but under Florida law, if Rimmerman can convince the Jury that Martin attacked him physically and that he feared for his life (as his doctor has done) then SYG applies.

If you don't like it, then repeal SYG and just give a better legal definition as to what self defence is.

Or just sit here crying that the big bad Zimm played the game and played it well.

EDIT: Iv spent about 6 weeks in various parts of Florida, won't be going back again now, it's clearly full of whack jobs with guns that can legally shoot you...fuck that shit.

We vacation in Orlando almost every year and then drive down to Port Charlotte to visit my wife's grandfather. We usually take I-4 to Tampa and then I-75 down the coast. One year we decided to take a different route through central Florida on smaller roads to see more of the state. What a mistake.

Almost every town we went through felt like we were in the movie "O' Brother, Where Art Thou?", it was one depressing, dilapidated, shantytown after the next. The homes we passed all looked like they were barely standing and the front yards looked like appliance/automobile graveyards. It seemed like an endless stretch of poverty. Stick to the coasts or Orlando, the rest of Florida is awful.

 

[NoDrama]

also take into account that zimmerman wasn't simply trying to ask the kid where he was going or why. he had a couple chances to do that, and never did.

He had NO chances to do that, unless yelling at someone in the rain from 500 feet away seems reasonable to you.

BTW how much TV do you watch each day? Your arguments seem to rely completely on MSM reporting which we all know to be mostly lies interspersed with a tiny bit of truth once in a while. You don't really think that the MSM tells the truth when it comes to most things do you?

 

[NoDrama]

Now I ask all of you what would you do if some guy in regular clothing is following you home and maybe you see he has a gun on him.

I run away?

All too easy.

 

[Corso312]

@harrekin ...you are aware that woman who fired a warning shot at an abusive boyfriend and hit nobody was just given 20 years...she used STG as a defense also...same prosecutor angela corey.

 

[Corso312]

why do you think police have to identify themselves when they are plain clothes and apprehend/question someone?...it is because if some douche is creeping on me and he is armed i have every right to beat his ass...unless he identifies himself as police...this turd is not the police...martins girlfriend will bury him with her testimony.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

@harrekin ...you are aware that woman who fired a warning shot at an abusive boyfriend and hit nobody was just given 20 years...she used STG as a defense also...same prosecutor angela corey.

She wasn't touched and went out to get the firearm, then came back in brandishing it and fired the weapon without the threat of death. Big difference, you might as well have referenced Roe vs Wade as it has about the same relevance.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

why do you think police have to identify themselves when they are plain clothes and apprehend/question someone?...it is because if some douche is creeping on me and he is armed i have every right to beat his ass...unless he identifies himself as police...this turd is not the police...martins girlfriend will bury him with her testimony.

Actually, you don't have that right. And if the weapon is concealed, how would you know someone is armed? Psychic much?

Is that a Glock in your pants or are you just happy to see me?

 

[Corso312]

if someone is reaching and touching under his belt ..i assume he is packing..so yeah i would drop that clown too....lol@ row v wade...actually these cases have a lot in common...same state...florida...same prosecutor...angela C.......same defense SYG...same outcome..guilty

 

[londonfog]

So you're the civilian dispatcher's little bitch now? You HAVE to do what they say?

No you fucking don't, stop following this angle, it's retarded.

And you've heard the tape, it wasn't even an instruction, so get some new material retard.

EDIT: Try using your brain, it's murder 2 and he's out on bail, possibly out of State...it's a bullshit case put on to stop rioting, he'll never be convicted on what's come out.

Cant wait to say I told you so

WOW you can't wait to "tell me so" on a case in which a child lost his life due to someone following him. Tells me a lot about you. WTF does being out on bail has anything to do with shit. People get out on bail on a murder charge. You always get bail unless you are a threat to others or a flight risk. Maybe someone can follow you around and then when you confront, he puts one in your chest. Maybe that will change the way you think.

 

[Harrekin]

WOW you can't wait to "tell me so" on a case in which a child lost his life due to someone following him. Tells me a lot about you. WTF does being out on bail has anything to do with shit. People get out on bail on a murder charge. You always get bail unless you are a threat to others or a flight risk. Maybe someone can follow you around and then when you confront, he puts one in your chest. Maybe that will change the way you think.

We don't carry guns around, my country isnt quite as fucked as yours, so it's extremely unlikely I'll ever face that situation.

Nice try tho.

 

[UncleBuck]

You've got it all twisted, I think he SHOULD be held accountable for manslaughter at least, the point Im making is he WON'T.

If Trayvon was secretly alive, then he'd be fucked, but there's no conflicting party or evidence to disagree with his story and under SYG if Trayvon did attack him he's within his rights to take him out.

Blame SYG, don't get butthurt at me for being a realist about this. It's a beautiful case to highlight that if you wanna shoot someone and claim SYG you better shoot to kill tho, not a great message to be putting out.

SYG will not apply. zimmerman chased after the kid. the key word is "stand". the prosecution admits no one knows who attacked who but they're going forward with murder 2 anyway.

 

[UncleBuck]

He had NO chances to do that, unless yelling at someone in the rain from 500 feet away seems reasonable to you.

BTW how much TV do you watch each day? Your arguments seem to rely completely on MSM reporting which we all know to be mostly lies interspersed with a tiny bit of truth once in a while. You don't really think that the MSM tells the truth when it comes to most things do you?

lol, where in the fuck do you get 500 feet from, genius?

they were mere feet apart, certainly within earshot on the 911 call and guarantee they were before the 911 call when zimm spotted martin coming from behind the houses on his way to target.

that's two chances to identify himself and ask the suspicious person what they're up to. he didn't do that. he wasn't interested in doing that. his goal was to finally detain an asshole, because those assholes were always getting away. that's why he told dispatch to have the police call him for his location rather than meet him somewhere.

no MSM nothing in that, that's all pure out of the evidence.

 

[Harrekin]

lol, where in the fuck do you get 500 feet from, genius?

they were mere feet apart, certainly within earshot on the 911 call and guarantee they were before the 911 call when zimm spotted martin coming from behind the houses on his way to target.

that's two chances to identify himself and ask the suspicious person what they're up to. he didn't do that. he wasn't interested in doing that. his goal was to finally detain an asshole, because those assholes were always getting away. that's why he told dispatch to have the police call him for his location rather than meet him somewhere.

no MSM nothing in that, that's all pure out of the evidence.

As much as youve repeated the same thig over and over again, just cos you want something to be a certain way doesn't make it so, and repetition isn't going to make it any less blindly biased.

Zimmerman will walk, and probably get shot in the face by one of those assholes that were always getting away.

Only in America...

 

[UncleBuck]

As much as youve repeated the same thig over and over again, just cos you want something to be a certain way doesn't make it so, and repetition isn't going to make it any less blindly biased.

ok, zimmerman was on the ohone with dispatch parked out of his way from the route that led him to target. what do you suppose lead him to park there? having seen nothing?

so after zimm notices martin coming through the passage between houses in the NW part of the complex (encounter #1) he calls dispatch and him and martin have encounter #2 while he's on the phone with dispatch.

he never identifies himself during either encounter!

still never does it during encounter #3.

 

[londonfog]

We don't carry guns around, my country isnt quite as fucked as yours, so it's extremely unlikely I'll ever face that situation.

Nice try tho.

Your country and life must be boring as hell seeing how you keep in American business so much. You must be one of those that dream to be an American.