Whats your opinion on immigration??

Hepheastus420

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Dude for me, the jobs dont matter. I have no problem finding work and no illegal can change that. For people that work in the construction and agriculture industry it might be different.
They provide construction services for a cheaper price.. So what? You see sales everywhere.. What's wrong with a discount on labor?
 

Kaendar

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They provide construction services for a cheaper price.. So what? You see sales everywhere.. What's wrong with a discount on labor?
Like I said, for me personally I dont see the whole jobs thing as that big of an issue, so I dont really have much to say about that. Oh except to say I feel bad for some of the ppl working everyday all day for like 4 dollars an hour. That would suck ass.
 

Hepheastus420

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Like I said, for me personally I dont see the whole jobs thing as that big of an issue, so I dont really have much to say about that. Oh except to say I feel bad for some of the ppl working everyday all day for like 4 dollars an hour. That would suck ass.
Damn.. You know people that work for 4 dollars an hour? That must suck.
So I suck at this whole political crap and only base my opinions of immigration from my morals. Do you mind telling me why you think it's a problem for them to come over? Do you find it morally wrong or economically wrong?
 

Kaendar

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Damn.. You know people that work for 4 dollars an hour? That must suck.
So I suck at this whole political crap and only base my opinions of immigration from my morals. Do you mind telling me why you think it's a problem for them to come over? Do you find it morally wrong or economically wrong?
Yea I do. The guys that work at the lonchera on the corner work full time and get paid $4-5 an hour. They are really cool and I know they are busting their ass.

As far as your question, let me say that mostly asians and hispanics come here illegaly. I know there are europeans and shit that come but they do it white collar style and forge documents. Anyway, let me just say that for asians they are brought here from thailand and vietnam and shit as slaves on the big ol ships that dock at Long Beach. They come packed 40 to a shipping container and are sold when they come here. This is something alot of ppl arent aware of so they think its only hispanics illegally immigrating. Its obvious why this needs to stop. As far as the hispanic immigrants, I just dont like the whole "do whatever you want just dont get caught" attitude about living here. Im not saying they are all shiftless hooligans, but a big lot of them make no attempt at assimilating to make their lives easier. The guys will do clandestine construction jobs, and the women pop out kids and collect welfare and food stamps. NO RACISM INTENDED, im just saying the truth that ive experienced first hand living in little Mexico, I mean LA.
 

UncleBuck

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As far as the hispanic immigrants, I just dont like the whole "do whatever you want just dont get caught" attitude about living here. Im not saying they are all shiftless hooligans, but a big lot of them make no attempt at assimilating to make their lives easier. The guys will do clandestine construction jobs, and the women pop out kids and collect welfare and food stamps. NO RACISM INTENDED, im just saying the truth that ive experienced first hand living in little Mexico, I mean LA.
no racism there, just a shit ton of stereotypes and prejudices mixed with a heft helping of bigotry. all followed by a NO RACISM INTENDED disclaimer. lol.

dude, you can say you're not bigoted/prejudicial all you want, but that doesn't negate the dumb ass things you actually type.
 

UncleBuck

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i don't intend to be an asshole/troll, that's just how folks like you label me for what i say.

you don't intend to be a racist/bigot, that's just how folks like me label you for what you say.

see how that works?
 

Kaendar

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i don't intend to be an asshole/troll, that's just how folks like you label me for what i say.

you don't intend to be a racist/bigot, that's just how folks like me label you for what you say.

see how that works?
Yes, but everything else aside, can I ask what drives your madness? What is so great about pissing ppl off all day. It seems like you really enjoy it.
 

codexcannabis

Active Member
Surely immigration into any country needs to be controlled. The problem in modernised countries like the uk and us is that our govts give amnesty to far too many ppl in what seems like a campaign to drive down the wages of the workin/middle class.

Our countries couldnt function without immigrants but we dont need freeloaders we have too many of those as it is. I would happily swap a bunch of hard working immigrants for a bunch of lazy brits any day :)
 

UncleBuck

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Yes, but everything else aside, can I ask what drives your madness? What is so great about pissing ppl off all day. It seems like you really enjoy it.
i pick my battles fairly carefully.

with what i knew about your anti-gay bigoted attitudes, i looked for hints in your very first post that you did not want opinions on illegal immigration, but rather a soapbox to express your anti-latino views. and surprise, i found hints in post #1.

from there you went on to expose all your bigoted stereotypes about latinos. i left others alone who simply voiced their opinion, as that was the point of the thread. but i took to task people spreading lies like you, okie, and winter woman.

stating an opinion is one thing, asserting a false stereotype/opinion as fact is another.

i truly enjoy making sport of people like you, and i have a lot of free days to do it. i enjoy it almost as much as watching my corn grow or baby chicks to hatch.
 

UncleBuck

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Surely immigration into any country needs to be controlled. The problem in modernised countries like the uk and us is that our govts give amnesty to far too many ppl in what seems like a campaign to drive down the wages of the workin/middle class.

Our countries couldnt function without immigrants but we dont need freeloaders we have too many of those as it is. I would happily swap a bunch of hard working immigrants for a bunch of lazy brits any day :)
BNP partier?
 

Kaendar

Well-Known Member
i pick my battles fairly carefully.

with what i knew about your anti-gay bigoted attitudes, i looked for hints in your very first post that you did not want opinions on illegal immigration, but rather a soapbox to express your anti-latino views. and surprise, i found hints in post #1.

from there you went on to expose all your bigoted stereotypes about latinos. i left others alone who simply voiced their opinion, as that was the point of the thread. but i took to task people spreading lies like you, okie, and winter woman.

stating an opinion is one thing, asserting a false stereotype/opinion as fact is another.

i truly enjoy making sport of people like you, and i have a lot of free days to do it. i enjoy it almost as much as watching my corn grow or baby chicks to hatch.
At the end of the day, most stereo types stem from truth. But all these things that I talked about werent stereotypes, they are things that I see everyday around me.
 

UncleBuck

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At the end of the day, most stereo types stem from truth. But all these things that I talked about werent stereotypes, they are things that I see everyday around me.
at the end of the day, you are still judging others based on you preconceived notions about them which are solely based on perceived nationality/heritage.

we all see this abortion of a thread for what it is. it was obvious from post #1.
 

H R Puff N Stuff

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i am a licensed contractor and for the record most contractors that under bid construction work are unlicensed not a race and i see it everyday and my personal experience is the unlicensed contractor is usually white and there workers are mexican but you get what you pay for and people will pay for quality
 

Winter Woman

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I'm going to try and put my reply on this thread. When I type it in it says too short.

I guess a mod is against free speech.
 

Winter Woman

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Was going to post under new ID. But what the heck. UB you're the one who talks like that and it's always when you think you're going for the kill. lol.

Grow up little boy and use something other than attack trolling. I thought you wanted a discussion?
 

UncleBuck

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Was going to post under new ID. But what the heck. UB you're the one who talks like that and it's always when you think you're going for the kill. lol.

Grow up little boy and use something other than attack trolling. I thought you wanted a discussion?
ARIZONA: A 2008 study by the University of Arizona’s Udall Center for Studies in Public Policy concluded that “the total state tax revenue attributable to immigrant workers was an estimated $2.4 billion (about $860 million for naturalized citizens plus about $1.5 billion for non-citizens). Balanced against estimated fiscal costs of $1.4 billion (for education, health care, and law enforcement), the net 2004 fiscal impact of immigrants in Arizona was positive by about $940 million.” Moreover, the “2004 total economic output attributable to immigrant workers was about $44 billion ($15 billion for naturalized citizens and $29 billion for non-citizens). This output included $20 billion in labor and other income and resulted in approximately 400,000 full-time-equivalent jobs.”
 
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