email468 - Big Bud and PPP grow

LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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no....it hooks up under the stink without disturbing your regular pumping while giving you an output for your RO/water filtration systems!
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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yea. the saddle valve does the same shit! but that pressure will spit out that tube.... im not a fan of the compression. i call bullshit!

but those John Guest quick connect fittings fucking rock! the colar will make sure no leaks will show its face!!!! plus all you do is push in the tube and waaahlaaaa!!!!

i know i could of had it working if i was to stop being so difficult, but i be damn if i have to unhook my adapter from the faucet just so somebody can wash their hands....fuck that.
 
email468

email468

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LoudBlunts said:
yea. the saddle valve does the same shit! but that pressure will spit out that tube.... im not a fan of the compression. i call bullshit!

but those John Guest quick connect fittings fucking rock! the colar will make sure no leaks will show its face!!!! plus all you do is push in the tube and waaahlaaaa!!!!

i know i could of had it working if i was to stop being so difficult, but i be damn if i have to unhook my adapter from the faucet just so somebody can wash their hands....fuck that.
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if you plan on having the filter constantly on and attached to a sink that gets used - then i completely agree - you absolutely don't want to have to unhook the filter every time you want to wash your hands.
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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and another question. as far as the RO....

a tds/ppm reading will let me know when i need to change my filters correct?

im thinking about getting one of those inline tds meters...i seen a sweet one for 20 bucks
 
email468

email468

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LoudBlunts said:
and another question. as far as the RO....

a tds/ppm reading will let me know when i need to change my filters correct?

im thinking about getting one of those inline tds meters...i seen a sweet one for 20 bucks
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yes - just make sure to keep you pH probe out of the RO water!
 
email468

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We TaRdED said:
huh? why?

:confused:
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The simple version and my understanding is - RO water renders the pH probe useless over time. The RO water does this through absorbing the ions from the pH probe since the RO water has none. After the pH probe loses its ions, it is useless as a probe. Checking pH AFTER you add nutrients is not a problem because the nutrient solution either contains ions or causes the RO water to not absorb ions - to be honest - i'm not sure which but either way - it is safe to test pH of RO water only after adding nutrients. Which is just as well - if you've ever attempted to check pH of RO water you'll see your meter fluctuating pretty wildly and it is difficult to get a solid reading anyway.

Here is the detailed explanation from the mighty (and mighty helpful) Earl:
A pH probe is basically a sensitive voltmeter,
and converts the reading in mV that it gets,
into a digital number representing the pH.

A solution of neutral pH should have a mV reading of 0.0.

Two chemical solutions can have the same pH,
with one solution having a higher ionic value.

pH calibration solutions are made with High Ionic chemicals.

High Ionic solutions will cause the meter to react faster,
than low ionic solutions.

RO has little or no ions.

Two potentials are needed to make a pH measurement:

1. The sensing electrode provides a potential
proportional to the logarithm of the
hydrogen ion activity,
in your nutrient solution.

2. The electrode reference solution inside the probe,
ideally provides a stable and consistent ionic potential,
independent of your nutrient solution.

Comparing the ions in these two solutions
gives an electrical potential
we can read on the meter.

Since the RO has no ions,
ion transfer occurs
from the electrode reference solution in the probe,
to the RO.

Once the ions are reduced in the electrode reference solution,
or depleted from the electrode reference solution,
the probe becomes slow to calibrate, or totally disabled.

Ph adjusting RO has the same ionic problem.
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LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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my girl's mom works at a water treatment plant or something. i talked to her last night about this topic and she said...it varies....although in order for a ph to be picked up it (the sample) has to have hydrogen ions or some shit. she said they ph check the RO water all the time, but im pretty sure they have special dedicated ph meters. She said...it wont immediately fuck it up.....but she said over time, it MIGHT.

i love using my resources!!!
 
email468

email468

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LoudBlunts said:
my girl's mom works at a water treatment plant or something. i talked to her last night about this topic and she said...it varies....although in order for a ph to be picked up it (the sample) has to have hydrogen ions or some shit. she said they ph check the RO water all the time, but im pretty sure they have special dedicated ph meters. She said...it wont immediately fuck it up.....but she said over time, it MIGHT.

i love using my resources!!!
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Excellent! I love when two separate sources agree :mrgreen:
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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great info. thanks a bunch email :D

email468 said:
The simple version and my understanding is - RO water renders the pH probe useless over time. The RO water does this through absorbing the ions from the pH probe since the RO water has none. After the pH probe loses its ions, it is useless as a probe. Checking pH AFTER you add nutrients is not a problem because the nutrient solution either contains ions or causes the RO water to not absorb ions - to be honest - i'm not sure which but either way - it is safe to test pH of RO water only after adding nutrients. Which is just as well - if you've ever attempted to check pH of RO water you'll see your meter fluctuating pretty wildly and it is difficult to get a solid reading anyway.

Here is the detailed explanation from the mighty (and mighty helpful) Earl:
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email468

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alright - last i peaked at them (the plants) they still look severely heat burned - not sure if they're going to recover - though all is not lost - they're still some healthy looking buds left (i hope) - i'll try to update the details and add pix later tonight.
 
Enigma

Enigma

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Hate to hear it for ya brah.. I know the next cycle will be uber dank since you learned from this one.

Cycles brotha, cycles!

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mmclean3

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email468 said:
alright - last i peaked at them (the plants) they still look severely heat burned - not sure if they're going to recover - though all is not lost - they're still some healthy looking buds left (i hope) - i'll try to update the details and add pix later tonight.
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Dude i'm sorry to hear thats a shame Id kill me !!! Anyway i hope all works out n those bitches kick back into action to give ya whatca need!! :p
 
email468

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mmclean3 said:
Dude i'm sorry to hear thats a shame Id kill me !!! Anyway i hope all works out n those bitches kick back into action to give ya whatca need!! :p
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thanks - but its my own dumb fault for not being more aware of the warning signs. i'm really not sweating it - the PPP looks (well looked) great and there are still some large very salvageable buds.

i just feel badly i didn't do right by my little babies ... but there is always next time and now i have the AC installed - shouldn't have the heat problem again.
 
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Started taking a just before lights out and just after lights on (warmest/coolest) readings
DAY 50 / FLOWER DAY 27:
Ambient Temperature: 81.5/70.8 F
Humidity: 33/50%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 71.4/66.9 F
pH: 5.2/5.9
PPM: 562/565
Notes: Reservoir Change - to 20 Gallons of RO water added the following: 5 TBSP. Flora Micro, 10 TBSP. Flora Bloom, 1 TBSP. Floralicious Bloom, 5 TBSP. KoolBloom
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DAY 51 / FLOWER DAY 28:
Ambient Temperature: 84.2/70.5 F
Humidity: 39/51%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 72.6/68 F
pH: 5.7/5.9
PPM: 562/534
Notes:
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DAY 52 / FLOWER DAY 29:
Ambient Temperature: 88.1/72.8 F
Humidity: 37/48%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 73.9/69.8 F
pH: 5.8/6.0
PPM: 537/539
Notes:
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DAY 53 / FLOWER DAY 30:
Ambient Temperature: 77/70.5 F
Humidity: 55/52%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 68.7/68.3 F
pH: 5.5/5.3
PPM: 925/912
Notes: Reservoir Change - to 20 Gallons of RO water added the following: 5 TBSP. Flora Micro, 10 TBSP. Flora Bloom, 1 TBSP. Floralicious Bloom, 5 TBSP. KoolBloom
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DAY 54 / FLOWER DAY 32:
Ambient Temperature: 78/70.7 F
Humidity: 57/53%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 69.6/68.3 F
pH: 5.6/5.6
PPM: 945/953
Notes:
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DAY 55 / FLOWER DAY 33: (PIX)
Ambient Temperature: 75.2/68.3 F
Humidity: 43/45%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 67.2/67.4 F
pH: 5.9/5.8
PPM: 945/982
Notes:

The poor scrawny heat damaged babies (you can see the green PPP in the lower right corner peaking out there) - a decent Big Bud bud - a beautiful PPP bud beginning to show some crystals - hmmm slow but sure
 

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