medicineman
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Really?? Where are you from. I want to make damn sure I don't end up on that street late at night.
Obama the AMERICAN FLAG HATER
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AnitaNuggs
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southern cali...
medicineman
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I lived in CA. for 20+ years. Can't stand it anymore. Too many people and takes 2 hours to get out of town. Here in Vegas, if the traffic is light, I can be in the middle of nowhere in 25 minnutes, wait, I'm already in the middle of nowhere.
kronicsmurf
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hmmm politicians all pretty much cut from the same cloth whether its a democrat or a republicen. they all pander to this party or that party to gain votes. they all lie with a straight face. and that leaves you with 3 choices, vote don't vote, or leave the country. oh and one more thing they never ever do anything good unless it benifits them in some way.
ViRedd
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I don't give a rat's ass if he wears a flag pin or not.
I believe that its a first amendment right to burn the flag in protest if you want to.
There is no way that McCain could get me to vote for him. The only people who could get me to vote for McCain are Hillary and O'Bama.
Vi
I believe that its a first amendment right to burn the flag in protest if you want to.
There is no way that McCain could get me to vote for him. The only people who could get me to vote for McCain are Hillary and O'Bama.
Vi
hom36rown
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lol hes not irishO'Bama.
Vi
VTXDave
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I "personally" am opposed to flag burning...I was waiting for you to go on a tear about flag-burning and whether or not it should be Constitutionally restricted, which you KNOW I happen to disagree with vehemently.
To the rest of you, carry on!
But I would never foist that belief upon others as that would violate their 1st Amendment rights. What kind of American would I be if I allowed myself to get swept up in imposing my beliefs upon others and force them to comply? I love my country too damn much. It's my opinion that my nation is represented in our flag. Again...This is my belief and if someone was burning a flag in front of me, I would have to let them do it or I'd be compromising my belief in the US Constitution.
Dankdude
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Flag worship is one of the signs of a Fascist state.
How to Recognise a Fascist state.
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
How to Recognise a Fascist state.
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
medicineman
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Geeze Dank, remind you of anyone. I think you have summed up the Bush regime in the above tutorial.
Dankdude
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That's the point Med......
Check out this Link........ I think you'll like it.
George W Bush and the 14 points of fascism - Project for the OLD American Century
Check out this Link........ I think you'll like it.
George W Bush and the 14 points of fascism - Project for the OLD American Century
medicineman
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What a great site. That pretty much has every arguement against the Bush regime you could think of. Just reading some of it makes my blood boil. It brings back all the reasons Why I hate this motherfucker and his minions, great site. I bookmarked the site for future references, thanks Dank.
LoudBlunts
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OH SHIT!!!!! dont let zenmaster see this...he'll flame us all
medicineman
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We'll have to wait and see, but, I hope Obama takes Pennslyvania. That would solidify his nomination. If enough Blacks and young people turn out it could happen. Either way, Hillary needs at least a 10% lead to make her a viable candidate.
AnitaNuggs
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I think it's possible.
but think about it...
obama would get assassinated.
and not a lot of countrys look down on women.. whos going to respect a country with a women?
and mccain is just a joke....
but think about it...
obama would get assassinated.
and not a lot of countrys look down on women.. whos going to respect a country with a women?
and mccain is just a joke....