Fedral judge lol's at Obama Florida voter purge is legal

[UncleBuck]

Did you not watch the video? ID would have fixed the fraud they pointed out. LOL the NYTIMES? LOL

having to show an ID to vote is an effective poll tax, and unconstitutional.

packing away those 16 hour days again, i see

 

[UncleBuck]

{failure to prove extent of voter fraud}

burden of proof is on the person making the claim. note who started this abortion of a thread.

 

[canndo]

Did you not watch the video? ID would have fixed the fraud they pointed out. LOL the NYTIMES? LOL

What a wonderful world it is for those who dismiss evidence or proof simply on the basis of who is reporting it. No one need think at all, simply check the name on the top of the page, if it is in their list, then they needn't even read it. In reality, if a newspaper finds evidence of something and reports on it, it very well might be free of bias. Impugning the source is lazy thinking and lazy debating. If you want to continue, then please give me a list of news sources that are acceptable to you and I can attempt to live in your echo chamber for a bit.

I've not seen your video, I shy away from videos for the most part because they are not linear and are not easily quoteable.

 

[canndo]

Now I gave you the brennan report, SCOTUS's findings (although I have not given you the direct quotation) and I gave you ALEC. It was you who claims that the NYT is lying. Seems to me that you are the one who is confused with the evidence presented (I hesitate to use the word fact - all too often that word is misused)

 

[Red1966]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/11/washington/11voters.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1&ei=5124&en=cba2ba0f1aeb218f&ex=1334030400&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink&adxnnlx=1324148609-vab5WlqTVNG6TQ/Xp4VjMA And curiouser still. There isn't any proof that this voter fraud (the sort that can be corrected by ID) exist, at all, yet suddenly, Republicans are very very concerned that it might be happening, even though they havn't any evidence at all - best to be safe right? Especially if safe includes keeping millions of probable dems from voting. Now beyond even that, initial studies indicate that there is a lower turn out for elections in places where these IDs are required, hmmmm. No proof whatsoever that there is voter fraud, institute the ID requirements and turnouts are reduced - it works! fewer voters means more repubs get into office just like Weyrick says.

Since you seem to ignore anything that doesn't fit into your idea of the way things are, I'll repost the exact thing you say hasn't been posted. I gave specific, verifiable examples of how voter fraud has occurred and has changed the outcome of elections. Of course, I fully expect you to keep on LYING.: Odd, we gave several examples of verifiable voter fraud, but you say it doesn't exist. Loretta Sanchez of Cali was elected through voter fraud. JFK won the presidency, our highest office, through voter fraud. 119% voter turnout in Madison, Wisconsin (recall vote) proves a massive amount of voter fraud there. The Democratic campaign headquarters in Jacksonville, FL bought votes from retarded citizens in a group home with beer and cigarettes. Yet, you guys keep claiming it doesn't exist, or is so tiny it doesn't matter. I think that if Republicans were doing it, you would be marching in the streets. Cheating is OK if you're benefiting from it. This proves that you are morally bankrupt. Shame on you.

 

[Red1966]

I have five valid voter ID cards under five different names. If I choose to vote five times, I can easily do so. Since you guys seem to be OK with voter fraud, maybe I'll go against my moral principles and cast those votes. Your Huffington Post link said millions COULD lose their voting rights, not they WILL.

 

[UncleBuck]

and the dynamic duo has yet to premise their argument.

 

[ChesusRice]

119% voter turnout in Madison, Wisconsin (recall vote) proves a massive amount of voter fraud there. .

By CHARLES MAHTESIAN | 6/5/12 6:53 PM EDT


By all reports, voter turnout is extremely high in Wisconsin today and Twitter has been abuzz with reports of 119 percent turnout in the liberal stronghold of Madison.
But that number — which would have meant more voters than people actually registered to vote before Election Day (a possibility due to same day registration) — appears to be off-the-mark.
According to Madison Clerk Maribeth Witzel-Behl’s office — where the original report is said to have originated — the projected turnout there is on a pace for 96 percent, not 119 percent.
Still, that's pretty astounding.
It’s possible it looked like 119 percent at one time; the clerk's office told me that turnout numbers are extrapolated by looking at actual turnout at various intervals during the day. As of 4 .pm. Central, 48 percent of registered voters had actually turned out. The 96 percent figure is calculated by doubling that figure at the close of polls at 8 p.m.

 

[UncleBuck]

By CHARLES MAHTESIAN | 6/5/12 6:53 PM EDT


By all reports, voter turnout is extremely high in Wisconsin today and Twitter has been abuzz with reports of 119 percent turnout in the liberal stronghold of Madison.
But that number — which would have meant more voters than people actually registered to vote before Election Day (a possibility due to same day registration) — appears to be off-the-mark.
According to Madison Clerk Maribeth Witzel-Behl’s office — where the original report is said to have originated — the projected turnout there is on a pace for 96 percent, not 119 percent.
Still, that's pretty astounding.
It’s possible it looked like 119 percent at one time; the clerk's office told me that turnout numbers are extrapolated by looking at actual turnout at various intervals during the day. As of 4 .pm. Central, 48 percent of registered voters had actually turned out. The 96 percent figure is calculated by doubling that figure at the close of polls at 8 p.m.

awww, looks like the righties were dealing with bullshit "facts".

how surprising.

 

[Red1966]

By CHARLES MAHTESIAN | 6/5/12 6:53 PM EDT By all reports, voter turnout is extremely high in Wisconsin today and Twitter has been abuzz with reports of 119 percent turnout in the liberal stronghold of Madison. But that number — which would have meant more voters than people actually registered to vote before Election Day (a possibility due to same day registration) — appears to be off-the-mark. According to Madison Clerk Maribeth Witzel-Behl’s office — where the original report is said to have originated — the projected turnout there is on a pace for 96 percent, not 119 percent. Still, that's pretty astounding. It’s possible it looked like 119 percent at one time; the clerk's office told me that turnout numbers are extrapolated by looking at actual turnout at various intervals during the day. As of 4 .pm. Central, 48 percent of registered voters had actually turned out. The 96 percent figure is calculated by doubling that figure at the close of polls at 8 p.m.

So that 96% figure is just a guess, not an actual count. I'm surprised not a soul has said anything about me having the ability to vote five times. I guess I will since no one cares.

 

[Toorop]

Only people on the right have identification cards (driver's license, voter registration card, passport, etc)? I honestly don't get how asking for an ID card benefits the "right" and harms the "left"?

Can you point it out to me where in the Constitution it says you need an ID to vote?

 

[UncleBuck]

Can you point it out to me where in the Constitution it says you need an ID to vote?

they don't care about the constitution when it doesn't fit their tilt. see the 14th amendment. and the 16th. but they love the 2nd and the 10th.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Toorop again.

 

[kelly4]

having to show an ID to vote is an effective poll tax, and unconstitutional.

packing away those 16 hour days again, i see

If the Govt. decides to give out ID's for free, is that a poll tax?
It would be free.....like healthcare. LOL!

 

[canndo]

Since you seem to ignore anything that doesn't fit into your idea of the way things are, I'll repost the exact thing you say hasn't been posted. I gave specific, verifiable examples of how voter fraud has occurred and has changed the outcome of elections. Of course, I fully expect you to keep on LYING.: Odd, we gave several examples of verifiable voter fraud, but you say it doesn't exist. Loretta Sanchez of Cali was elected through voter fraud. JFK won the presidency, our highest office, through voter fraud. 119% voter turnout in Madison, Wisconsin (recall vote) proves a massive amount of voter fraud there. The Democratic campaign headquarters in Jacksonville, FL bought votes from retarded citizens in a group home with beer and cigarettes. Yet, you guys keep claiming it doesn't exist, or is so tiny it doesn't matter. I think that if Republicans were doing it, you would be marching in the streets. Cheating is OK if you're benefiting from it. This proves that you are morally bankrupt. Shame on you.

It does no such thing, I asked for examples of widespread voter fraud that could be prevented with ID - so show me, whehre is it? Recountings don't work as we don't know your specfics. Now how about giving me that before you start accusing me of being immoral.

 

[canndo]

I have five valid voter ID cards under five different names. If I choose to vote five times, I can easily do so. Since you guys seem to be OK with voter fraud, maybe I'll go against my moral principles and cast those votes. Your Huffington Post link said millions COULD lose their voting rights, not they WILL.

so you have 5 valid voter ID cards? really? Even if they ask for Voter ID then you will still be able to vote 5 times - as I have asked, kindly show us examples of voter fraud that is preventable with voter ID - obviously the examples you state are not.

 

[nontheist]

so you have 5 valid voter ID cards? really? Even if they ask for Voter ID then you will still be able to vote 5 times - as I have asked, kindly show us examples of voter fraud that is preventable with voter ID - obviously the examples you state are not.

Yeah cause the video of a white guy saying he is Eric Holder, saying he don't have an ID making every excuse he can for them to question him and they're still willing to vote for him.......BUT WE HAVE NO PROOF PEOPLE!!!!..................retardedness is at such epic propotions I had to make a new word ............move along nothing else to see here, facts are futile...

 

[desert dude]

All anecdotal evidence and studies aside.

What is fundamentally wrong with a law that makes citizens prove, with an ID, that they are in fact who they say they are in order to vote?

Personally, I find nothing objectionable about this and I am a libertarian.

 

[UncleBuck]

All anecdotal evidence and studies aside.

What is fundamentally wrong with a law that makes citizens prove, with an ID, that they are in fact who they say they are in order to vote?

Personally, I find nothing objectionable about this and I am a libertarian.

requiring an ID to vote is an effective poll tax. do tell me what the law of the land is about poll taxes

 

[desert dude]

requiring an ID to vote is an effective poll tax. do tell me what the law of the land is about poll taxes

No, a poll tax is a tax collected at the polling place that allows you to vote. Showing identification to prove you are eligible to vote is not a poll tax. But you are welcome to trot out your racist cartoon collection to scare us all with the risen ghost of George Wallace to show us how racist we are and how saintly you are to make your point.

 

[UncleBuck]

No, a poll tax is a tax collected at the polling place that allows you to vote. Showing identification to prove you are eligible to vote is not a poll tax. But you are welcome to trot out your racist cartoon collection to scare us all with the risen ghost of George Wallace to show us how racist we are and how saintly you are to make your point.

how much does an ID cost in your state?

here, it is $56 for one that lasts 8 years. $26.50 for a replacement. if you need an ID to vote, and an ID costs money to obtain, that is an effective poll tax.

tell me about the constitutionality of poll taxes