Christians need to stop attacking gays!!

WyoGrow

WyoGrow

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By definition "survival mechanisms" don't require higher thought. They just happen in order to help us survive. It's a involuntary reaction. If you have to think about it then it is a behavior. It is a action. Homophobia is a action... not a reaction. If you show a baby gay porn it's isn't instinctively repulsed. But if you dunk a baby in water it will instinctively hold it's breath.... that is a survival mechanism. None of us are born with a chromosome that dictates that we instinctively hate homosexuals. It's a learned behavior.
 
Doer

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Totally agree. And to me it is such a wonder why some societies have been much rougher than others about this. I really don't care what others believe or not. I am interested in how and what and such. Where does it come from. It is just sex, after all.

So, maybe it is the strict, Dark Ages, approach to Western sex, in general. I mean, the position on the Missionary position itself displays the gay guilt of the church. If we just see the openness of childern and how they behave, I'd say Hate is learned, for sure.
 
missnu

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Kaendar said:
When ignorant pastors start saying shit like lets kill the fags and faggots will burn in hell, they arent doing much for their cause. Christians are supposed to be loving, kind, and caring. Even IF someone is commiting a sin, they are still human beings and deserve their respect. Killing someone is never the answer.. even a murderer will get what he has coming, but thats not up to us to judge one another.
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Who are you to say such a thing...

Why are you so freaking preoccupied with homosexuals and their burden?

Why do you post saying it is a disorder and is wrong and unnatural, and now here you are making a damn post about how people shouldn't attack gays...

You sir are a Weirdo with a capital WEIRD!

For real everytime I see one of you pro/anti-homo posts on the boards I just want to turn off my computer...nay, the whole internet!
I don't have that ability though, but please stop making these posts...everyone is sick of you and your typing.
 
Doer

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Has it ever occured to folks that some people want to be the way they are acting. When we reply and question the purposeful weirdness, we aid in the acting out.
 
Kaendar

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missnu said:
Who are you to say such a thing...

Why are you so freaking preoccupied with homosexuals and their burden?

Why do you post saying it is a disorder and is wrong and unnatural, and now here you are making a damn post about how people shouldn't attack gays...

You sir are a Weirdo with a capital WEIRD!

For real everytime I see one of you pro/anti-homo posts on the boards I just want to turn off my computer...nay, the whole internet!
I don't have that ability though, but please stop making these posts...everyone is sick of you and your typing.
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u got issues
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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I don't think kaendar is a troll. I think he just has horrible views. You can see he puts more thought into his posts than trolls do. Yeah the thoughts aren't that great, but you can see he really means what he's saying. I think we just gotta keep swapping ideas and soon enough, everybody could come to an agreement.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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Hepheastus420 said:
I don't think kaendar is a troll. I think he just has horrible views. You can see he puts more thought into his posts than trolls do. Yeah the thoughts aren't that great, but you can see he really means what he's saying. I think we just gotta keep swapping ideas and soon enough, everybody could come to an agreement.
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If I was a troll I wudnt spend most of my time hanging out in the outdoor growing section sharing my grows and giving grow advice.
 
WyoGrow

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Doer said:
Totally agree. And to me it is such a wonder why some societies have been much rougher than others about this. I really don't care what others believe or not. I am interested in how and what and such. Where does it come from. It is just sex, after all.

So, maybe it is the strict, Dark Ages, approach to Western sex, in general. I mean, the position on the Missionary position itself displays the gay guilt of the church. If we just see the openness of childern and how they behave, I'd say Hate is learned, for sure.
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Pre Victorian sex was fairly hedonistic. A good majority of our modern sexual hangups were introduced in the Victorian era.
 
WyoGrow

WyoGrow

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missnu said:
Who are you to say such a thing...

Why are you so freaking preoccupied with homosexuals and their burden?

Why do you post saying it is a disorder and is wrong and unnatural, and now here you are making a damn post about how people shouldn't attack gays...

You sir are a Weirdo with a capital WEIRD!

For real everytime I see one of you pro/anti-homo posts on the boards I just want to turn off my computer...nay, the whole internet!
I don't have that ability though, but please stop making these posts...everyone is sick of you and your typing.
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Would really put a crease in his sheets to show him studies that strongly imply that bisexuality is the norm and that strict heterosexuality is a learned behavior. Most all animals that reproduce via sexual reproduction are driven by the need to mate with the opposite sex for procreation. But many higher intelligence animals are also prone to seek sexual gratification in any form just because it feels good.

It's not too hard to come up with any number of logical reasons why the are religious prohibitions against same sex sexual contact. Especially in primitive societies where the men go out for long periods of time to herd domesticated animals, forage and fight. In many cultures it was deemed acceptable for men gone from home for long period of time with nothing but other men to seek sexual release with one another. But once home it was the mans duty to produce as many children as possible. Back in that time tribes were always on the brink of dying out. So every child counted. The norm back then was also arrange marriage to build bonds between families who weren't getting along, to solidify social rank and to acquire wealth. The men who chose to engage in sex usually freely chose their partners. Not too much of a stretch to think that some of the men preferred to continue the same sex relationship when back home because they probably just didn't like the nagging hag their dad picked out for them to be married to. So to ensure that they went back and made children like a good man should. Why not make same sex contact a "sin" while looking the other way when away from home? What happens on the goat herding expedition stays on the goat herd expedition......
 
WyoGrow

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In terms of the judeo-christian stance on homosexual relations. Well you just have to look at that religions early competition for followers. Many cultures back then not only tolerated bisexuality but embraced it as normal and healthy.
 
missnu

missnu

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there are later posts where he claims to be much older...I am not a fan and I am not the one with issues...I have read your threads and uhhhh....pretty awful fella...and you waffle all the time...you are against something, no wait you are for it. You have done it, no you just knew someone who did...I just don't get you and got a little tired of it...then making more accounts to do the same thing with but to support yourself with other names...if you have to make up a name to get someone on your side then that means you are the one on your side...
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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missnu said:
there are later posts where he claims to be much older...I am not a fan and I am not the one with issues...I have read your threads and uhhhh....pretty awful fella...and you waffle all the time...you are against something, no wait you are for it. You have done it, no you just knew someone who did...I just don't get you and got a little tired of it...then making more accounts to do the same thing with but to support yourself with other names...if you have to make up a name to get someone on your side then that means you are the one on your side...
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You have no clue what your talking about. And I dont have time to be making multiple accounts.. I have no need to do that. I never change my stance, ppl just get it wrong the first time and interpret shit their own way so I have to explain in simple easy to understand words how I feel on the subject.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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I think kaendar is creating trolls but isn't one himself. I know his views aren't the best, but we all have bad beliefs and we're only here to share ideas and talk about pot.. So back off a little. Just saying.
 
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