January to June 2012 warmest first half of any year on record

Red1966

Red1966

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canndo said:
I posted evidence quite to the contrary to your contention that our ouput is dwarfed by natural sources - not true.
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Quit the contrary, you took an isolated and limited time frame and presented it as the norm. The fact remains that volcanic activity and the resulting climatic changes have wiped out the vast majority of all living things several times over the history of this planet. You present relatively minor volcanic events as the extreme limit of what can be expected, when, in truth, volcanic activity can produce 100s of thousand times more effect than you contend. We're talking extinction level events, not just a hotter summer than last years.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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"the fact remains..."

i love it, theory backed up with complete certainty

agreed volcanoes have caused wide spread devastation, but they are the manifestation of real issues involving a wide range of variables, not the cause

id theorize that a lot of volcanic activity in the passed was caused by our relative distance from our own moon and the sun, which is increasing every year . . . .to me its all a snowball effect, but that kind of mentality doesnt mean i dont think we are influencing it negatively
 
Red1966

Red1966

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canndo said:
So most of the goings on in our world are just a mystery right? shit just happens? As I Occum is my support for what I claim.
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Just pointing out that just because you know one thing isn't the cause, doesn't prove something else is.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Red1966 said:
That's your proof? A chart showing co2 levels at a VOLCANO? Now you're arguing with yourself...lol...
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It's an inactive volcano, i.e. a mountain.

As for your mention of massive volcanic events, they do occur, as does the occasional impact of a large extraterrestrial body. Neither changes the fact that for the two available timeframes - the short one for direct measurement, and the longer one given precision by ice core science - volcanic emissions have been rather modest compared to the rest of the carbon cycle and much more so than the spike created by exponential mining and burning of fossil fuels. cn
 
Red1966

Red1966

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Samwell Seed Well said:
the CO2 you have to worry about is not from a Volcano, its from the permafrost ground in cannada's frozen bogs where decaying moss that has frozen has trapped a shit ton of co2, think about it
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This is little-known, but true. Also even larger amounts in Siberia.
 
BA142

BA142

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Sea levels have been rising and falling for billions of years

Temperatures have been rising and falling for billions of years

We only have weather records for what...120 years? Just look at the ice cores...things change and they always have.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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cannabineer said:
It's an inactive volcano, i.e. a mountain. As for your mention of massive volcanic events, they do occur, as does the occasional impact of a large extraterrestrial body. Neither changes the fact that for the two available timeframes - the short one for direct measurement, and the longer one given precision by ice core science - volcanic emissions have been rather modest compared to the rest of the carbon cycle and much more so than the spike created by exponential mining and burning of fossil fuels. cn
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Yes, there's no volcanic activity at all in Hawaii. Several hundred, thousand, million? extinction level events are relatively modest compared to what may or may not happen because we drive cars instead of walking.
 
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ChesusRice

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BA142 said:
Sea levels have been rising and falling for billions of years

Temperatures have been rising and falling for billions of years

We only have weather records for what...120 years? Just look at the ice cores...things change and they always have.
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At one time Earth had no atmosphere

So why should we worry about a rise in temperature
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Red1966 said:
Yes, there's no volcanic activity at all in Hawaii.
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Did I say that? No. I didn't. Why put words in my, uhm, keyboard?
Several hundred, thousand, million? extinction level events are relatively modest compared to what may or may not happen because we drive cars instead of walking.
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Did I say anything like that either?
Rebutting points is one thing.
However rebutting what wasn't butted in the first place is in rather poor form in my opinion.

Fwiw, should global warming "go catastrophic", the principal change would be a sea level rise in the hundreds of feet. I'll leave listing the consequences on human societies as an exercise to the interested reader. cn
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cannabineer said:
Fwiw, should global warming "go catastrophic", the principal change would be a sea level rise in the hundreds of feet. I'll leave listing the consequences on human societies as an exercise to the interested reader. cn
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just a few meters and red1966 would probably have to move.

 
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