Thought crimes?

[Dr Kynes]

You're starting to look pretty racist, cheeseater. You need to post some pictures of Aryan kids with assault rifles.

most of those kids were Aryan.

see hitler was a dipshit bro. the Aryan peoples are what we call persians today. persians are not arabs or semites, and the scandinavians and gemanics (who are also scandinavians FYI, they came down from the north under the leadership of a guy the romans dubbed Germanicus and set up housekeeping in land previously occupied by gauls and slavs) are definately not Aryans.

dont make me get my maps out homey...

 

[desert dude]

most of those kids were Aryan.

see hitler was a dipshit bro. the Aryan peoples are what we call persians today. persians are not arabs or semites, and the scandinavians and gemanics (who are also scandinavians FYI, they came down from the north under the leadership of a guy the romans dubbed Germanicus and set up housekeeping in land previously occupied by gauls and slavs) are definately not Aryans.

dont make me get my maps out homey...

I yield to your superior knowledge of ancient history, consider my "Aryan" comment errant. Nice story about the mongols; they sure knew how to throw a party.

 

[ginwilly]

yeah Dr. Kynes is dropping some knowledge. Thanks man.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I yield to your superior knowledge of ancient history, consider my "Aryan" comment errant. Nice story about the mongols; they sure knew how to throw a party.

sad part is he has to inform you of this, why is this not common knowledge

i have a new found respect for the Dr. he knows his shit for sure

 

[ChesusRice]

For a moment I'll pretend your demeanor wasn't insulting and impolite and offer an answer. It's not complex at all, if you believe it is okay to initiate aggression and that concepts such as "collateral damage" remove personal responsibility that's your business. As far as your shut the fuck up thing. Now that's no way to present a point of view now is it?

How many posts did you waste trying to frame me as a child killer

 

[Dr Kynes]

usually when i break out my history books eyes glaze over and people start running fer the hills.

if you guys want a fun time, google data about the city samarkand which still stands today and has been repopulated since tammerlane's visit. you will find very little on the sack of samarkand anywhere outside of hindu histories and persian records. back in the 60's 70's and 80's historians did a whitewash to paint the mongols as freedom of religion, hands off, self rule, democratic type barbarians. they were re-cast as benevolent proto-marxists. its really sad that a whole generation of historians got brainwashed by the hard left establishment.

 

[ChesusRice]

usually when i break out my history books eyes glaze over and people start running fer the hills.

if you guys want a fun time, google data about the city samarkand which still stands today and has been repopulated since tammerlane's visit. you will find very little on the sack of samarkand anywhere outside of hindu histories and persian records. back in the 60's 70's and 80's historians did a whitewash to paint the mongols as freedom of religion, hands off, self rule, democratic type barbarians. they were re-cast as benevolent proto-marxists. its really sad that a whole generation of historians got brainwashed by the hard left establishment.

Get HG Wells Concise history of the world
It's a 2 volume set. Some of the history in it is wrong. But it is entertaining, educational and covers a lot of history and people that you never heard of
Like the Khergens mentioned in the Highlander movie
They actually did exist
http://www.amazon.com/The-Outline-History-2-Volumes/dp/B001BMG870/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1343301116&sr=8-13&keywords=Outline+of+History

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

the most tragic event in history was the destruction of the library of Alexander . . idk maybe thats an overstatement but still, life would be a lot different

 

[ChesusRice]

the most tragic event in history was the destruction of the library of Alexander . . idk maybe thats an overstatement but still, life would be a lot different

We will never know
May of been beneficial as well
Think of all the false leads "scientists" didnt have to follow up on
And it may of been an overstatement as we really do not truly know how big it was

 

[Dr Kynes]

the most tragic event in history was the destruction of the library of Alexander . . idk maybe thats an overstatement but still, life would be a lot different

which time? the great library burned 3 times.

they forgot to put up the no smoking signs.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Get HG Wells Concise history of the world
It's a 2 volume set. Some of the history in it is wrong. But it is entertaining, educational and covers a lot of history and people that you never heard of
Like the Khergens mentioned in the Highlander movie
They actually did exist
http://www.amazon.com/The-Outline-History-2-Volumes/dp/B001BMG870/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1343301116&sr=8-13&keywords=Outline+of+History

another group most people assume was fictional were the myrmidons of achilles. htey were a real tribe, who were actually hunted almost to extinction by the greeks and then later by the christians.

 

[Rob Roy]

How many posts did you waste trying to frame me as a child killer

I think you confirmed your position in post #319. I asked if you were okay with kids dying...you replied yes. I recognize that you are not the actual killer, but I inferred that you are okay with others doing it. You didn't elaborate further.

Your buddy Samwell has a potty mouth... Nice of you to come to his rescue, because sooner or later his creativity in insulting would lapse and then he'd have to resort to repeating himself or hurl the big one...accuse me of being 12.

I'm fine with discussion, disagreement and presenting varying points of view but some people seem to be short on ideas and consistency and long on ad hominen attacks when their reasoning can't provide words to convey what they are thinking. See you around.

 

[Rob Roy]

you lament that nation states even exist due to their insistence on engaging in war, and their "aggression" which you clearly do not know the meaning of.

the mongol empire only existed due to the chinese inability to defend the middle kingdom by arms. they bribed the khans, and the khans went looking for others to raid.

upon their inital encounters with the mongols and the other tribal steppe peoples from far of asia majoris, rome instituted the same policy that they used against raiding gauls germanics and scandinavians.

if at any time they attack a roman colony, roman citizen, or roman asset, rome will rally several legions, pay some scythian horsemen as mercenaries and march off to burn your village to the ground.

unfortunately the plan that worked so well against european raiders with towns and villages was ineffective against nomadic bands. rome spent 100 years chasing these assholes around the desert with very little success.

had rome been able to pin them down and deliver the punishment that rome was rightly famous for, the mongols would have decided to leave europa the fuck alone. it is a sad fact of history that rome failed to hold it's borders against the mongols, and the constant mobilization weakened the legions, depleted the coffers, and led to the incursion by the vandals and the visigoths, then eventually the mongol hordes themselves. thus creating the dark ages.

the failure to aggressively prosecute punitive war against barbarians in defense of civilization results in the collapse of civilization. this same course of action resulted in the fall of the middle kingdom in china, but they did not fall to the mongols, they kept the mongols out with the wall of a thousand li, but sadly, the xiongnu barbarians were inside the walls already, on the korean peninsula. thus china too had it's dark age.

Not quite. You still haven't read any Lysander Spooner essays I see.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I think you confirmed your position in post #319. I asked if you were okay with kids dying...you replied yes. I recognize that you are not the actual killer, but I inferred that you are okay with others doing it. You didn't elaborate further.

Your buddy Samwell has a potty mouth... Nice of you to come to his rescue, because sooner or later his creativity in insulting would lapse and then he'd have to resort to repeating himself or hurl the big one...accuse me of being 12.

I'm fine with discussion, disagreement and presenting varying points of view but some people seem to be short on ideas and consistency and long on ad hominen attacks when their reasoning can't provide words to convey what they are thinking. See you around.

you make light of dead solders, and you disrespect there memory

my personal opinion is war is wrong for many reasons that go beyond civilian casualties, many would say that we were attacked and we had
a right to go to war, and in your description of what is ok aggression and what isnt you site that if you are defending yourself then its ok, but

how is it you dont believe in civilian casualties but you believe in war, and to except war as a possibility then to condemn what happens as a
result of war is a real two faced way of always being in the moral right, your a narcissist, plain and simple , you want to feel good about your

values, vs living in reality where you realize that war is ugly and that the military will do its job, without hesitation-to think expect or think
anythingother than that will happen is just well childish, naive or plain ignorance


PC thug, go ahead, its your hypocrisy, just dont shit on the lives lost in any war this country has, or you might as well jsut get the fuck out, cuase you have no back bone, ya the war is wrong and ya people are getting caught up in something that is not about good and bad but about politics, but they are still our brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers and uncles , so please dont make little satirical comments about our friends and family dieing so you can keep your moral high ground your fucking coward, you see them and there choices and you say thats the bad guy, how does it feel to make a morale stance that requires dead solders and kids to make your point

 

[Rob Roy]

you make light of dead solders, and you disrespect there memory

No, I make light of your use of the wrong tense. You mentioned something about dead soldiers attesting to something. Nice try.

As far as your potty mouth and insulting ways...how am I to have a reasonable conversation with you if you flip the chess board over so early in the game, figuratively speaking.

As far as soldiers in general, dead or otherwise...Do they get automatic "respect" from you simply by donning a particular uniform ? Don't you judge individuals on their actions ?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

of course i do, and these people died so you could disrespect there memory, thats how i feel you present your side , you use them as a spring board to put yourself up in status . . .its BS

and its cop out, your own description of ok aggression, is if your defending yourself, so how many of those kids(our countries solders) thought they were defending themselves, are there action s only ok if you say they are .. . . its BS your not the person that can tell them what they can think or feel

but here you here shitting on there lives because they died in iraq

nice morale stance as you climb over the dead bodies of others friends and family

and oh ya none of my personal attacks invalidate your position, ad hominin jerk, i just think your a PC thug, it doesnt invalidate your argument in any way, so latin term fail for you

 

[NoDrama]

sad part is he has to inform you of this, why is this not common knowledge

i have a new found respect for the Dr. he knows his shit for sure

Pot calls kettle black?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Pot calls kettle black?

a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush


see, i can say pointless vague statements too . . . . .come back when you have a complete thought about these kettles and the amount of carbon( i assume) on em

 

[Rob Roy]

of course i do, and these people died so you could disrespect there memory, thats how i feel you present your side , you use them as a spring board to put yourself up in status . . .its BS

and its cop out, your own description of ok aggression, is if your defending yourself, so how many of those kids(our countries solders) thought they were defending themselves, are there action s only ok if you say they are .. . . its BS your not the person that can tell them what they can think or feel

but here you here shitting on there lives because they died in iraq

nice morale stance as you climb over the dead bodies of others friends and family

You seem to have a comprehension problem with my position and a flair for attempting to get me to defend thoughts you state I have. hmm...How about stopping that and asking serious questions and trying real hard to keep it civil?

I don't see all soldiers as inherently good or bad, nor do I think of somebody automatically as a hero for having served in the military. I see the initiation of aggression as a bad thing. I see many soldiers as having been used and that their deaths were needless. I see the deaths of civilians, men, women and children as horrible too. Soldiers have been duped for centuries. Why would I or anyone kill another person that hasn't harmed me simply because a person with a fancier hat and higher rank told me to ?

As far as me having no backbone, well I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Everybody has the natural right to defend themself, it isn't an exclusive right. Everybody also has the natural right to be left alone if they leave others alone.

 

[NoDrama]

of course i do, and these people died so you could disrespect there memory, thats how i feel you present your side , you use them as a spring board to put yourself up in status . . .its BS

and its cop out, your own description of ok aggression, is if your defending yourself, so how many of those kids(our countries solders) thought they were defending themselves, are there action s only ok if you say they are .. . . its BS your not the person that can tell them what they can think or feel

but here you here shitting on there lives because they died in iraq

nice morale stance as you climb over the dead bodies of others friends and family

and oh ya none of my personal attacks invalidate your position, ad hominin jerk, i just think your a PC thug, it doesnt invalidate your argument in any way, so latin term fail for you

Wow dude you should probably stop posting, you come off as a psycho, like the kind that would open fire on a bunch of innocents in a theater kind of psycho. Rob has totally destroyed your position. Did you have one? I couldn't tell, it was mostly you telling Rob what a Giant turd you think he is.

FYI Soldiers don't really get a choice in whether or not they are going to have to go into combat.

It isn't like MARCHING UP AND DOWN THE SQUARE you know!

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